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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
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25%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
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7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
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16%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Total votes : 653

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:05 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Honestly just searching Bexar County under News should bring it up.

I was talking about Lin Wood saying 97% of the government was corrupt. Sorry if you didn't notice the emboldment, I probably should've edited out the rest.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:06 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Honestly just searching Bexar County under News should bring it up.

I was talking about Lin Wood saying 97% of the government was corrupt. Sorry if you didn't notice the emboldment, I probably should've edited out the rest.


Lin Wood needs to be disbarred and institutionalized..l
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Strangely, a quick search found nothing similar. So she's either hired by Wood or the news station.

Honestly just searching Bexar County Nelson under News should bring it up.
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Postby Diahon » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 am

Genivaria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

This atrocity would get most countries embargoed.

but as using prison slave labor is a constitutional exemption, a see-nothing attitude is treated as the default option

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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:42 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Honestly just searching Bexar County under News should bring it up.

I was talking about Lin Wood saying 97% of the government was corrupt. Sorry if you didn't notice the emboldment, I probably should've edited out the rest.

That's a low figure honestly. Closer to 100 sounds more realistic.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:05 am

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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:49 am


Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.
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Postby Yed Very Yed » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:50 am

We can never get along, and it is fact.

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Postby Lady Victory » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:58 am



Based and Patriotpilled. I can smell the Neo-Confederate tears from here... smells like victory.

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Postby Lady Victory » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:00 am

CoraSpia wrote:

Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


Nah, what's ridiculous is that we allowed the erection of statues to traitors, slavers, and white supremacists who made war on their country to keep their fellow Americans in chains. Now *that's* ridiculous. Imagine if Gorbachev had erected a statue of Nicholas II. That wouldn't make much sense, now would it?
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Postby Page » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:01 am

CoraSpia wrote:

Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


The only thing ridiculous about the statue removals is that people are asking the government nicely and waiting for them to come remove them.
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:05 am

Page wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


The only thing ridiculous about the statue removals is that people are asking the government nicely and waiting for them to come remove them.


It's the civic, patriotic duty of any American to remove statues of traitors whether the government wants them to or not.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 am

CoraSpia wrote:

Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


Why would you even want statues of people that not only hated America and everything it stood for, but tried to destroy it?
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:30 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


Why would you even want statues of people that not only hated America and everything it stood for, but tried to destroy it?

Well when you put it like that... :lol:
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:31 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


Why would you even want statues of people that not only hated America and everything it stood for, but tried to destroy it?


Because without them how will the uppity black people be reminded of their place? Or something like that, given when and why most of these statues went up.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:52 am

CoraSpia wrote:

Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.

There used to be a statue of Roger Taney a former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in front of the Maryland State House. He wrote the Dred Scott decision. Should that statue have remained there?
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Postby The Andorian System » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:56 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.


Why would you even want statues of people that not only hated America and everything it stood for, but tried to destroy it?


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Postby Andsed » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:32 am

CoraSpia wrote:

Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.

Lee fought to defend slavery. Why the hell should we have a statue for someone like him? Statues are built to glorify their subjects, what is worth glorifying about him? Plently of people don't deserve to have statues because what they did is not something that should ever be glorifed or celebrated. Lee is a textbook example of that.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:33 am

Is it statue time again? Hell yeah, kill all statues.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:35 am

Ifreann wrote:Is it statue time again? Hell yeah, kill all statues.

Countdown to the implication that people can only possibly learn history from a statue erected decades after the event it's celebrating.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:40 am

Andsed wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Ridiculous, like all of these statue removals.

Lee fought to defend slavery. Why the hell should we have a statue for someone like him? Statues are built to glorify their subjects, what is worth glorifying about him? Plently of people don't deserve to have statues because what they did is not something that should ever be glorifed or celebrated. Lee is a textbook example of that.


In Mexico they’re doing the same with a statue of Columbus. They’re going to replace it with one of an indigenous woman. I say that’s better.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:56 am

I was gonna add Lenin's statue in Seattle to the destro list, but ironically that ones on private property.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:00 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Is it statue time again? Hell yeah, kill all statues.

Countdown to the implication that people can only possibly learn history from a statue erected decades after the event it's celebrating.

That's what every American high school campus has statues of FDR, Churchill, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito. Gotta have those statues to learn about history.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:01 am

https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/nyc-gop-f ... cil-races/

NYC Republicans fear enthusiasm gap in open city council races. One race they are concerned about is that of the minority leader who is from Staten Island and is retiring. A Conservative Party candidate could be a spoiler and allow the Democrat to win.

The same could happen with the Staten Island Borough President where former Congressman Vito Fossella is attempting a comeback. A Democrat has not won this office since 1985.

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Postby Kilobugya » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:19 am

Speaking of statues, I had a neighbor who came from Spain, and before she came to France she was always leaving crumbs of bread near Franco's statues so birds would come and sh*t on the statues. Always loved her spirit :)
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