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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
166
25%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
47
7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
106
16%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
102
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Total votes : 653

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:29 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They released him because he had a bleeding ulcer?

Looking at the article, it sounds like the release was after he was admitted to be treated for that

Yes, I'm sure. I was encouraging San Lumen to be more precise in posting.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:30 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wmur.com/article/sununu-hospital-flu-like-symptoms-evaluation/37474780

Gov Chris Sununu of New Hampshire has been released from the hospital due to a bleeding ulcer.

They released him because he had a bleeding ulcer?


My mistake. I should have been clearer. He was released after being treated for a bleeding ulcer.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They released him because he had a bleeding ulcer?


My mistake. I should have been clearer. He was released after being treated for a bleeding ulcer.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:55 pm

Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:10 pm

Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

Hey Louisiana, don't try to steal California's thunder exploiting prisoners to manage natural disasters. That's our thing.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:30 pm

Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

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Postby Xanthal » Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:This atrocity would get most countries embargoed.

We only penalize immoral behavior when it's committed by our political enemies now.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:56 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

This atrocity would get most countries embargoed.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:16 am

Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:56 am

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Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

Hey Louisiana, don't try to steal California's thunder exploiting prisoners to manage natural disasters. That's our thing.


Arkansas uses prisoners too for such labor. You often see them cleaning the roads, or helping with cleaning efforts after tornadoes or ice storms. Mounted police is always present. Every time I saw that I felt like breaking into song, a la “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”.
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Postby Kilobugya » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:06 am

I don't oppose prisoners working for "common good" it actually can be a significant part of rehabilitating them and preparing their reinsertion into society. But it should always be : 1. voluntary 2. decently paid 3. ensuring they are not being put into danger. I fear none of those 3 conditions are met...
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:28 am

Kilobugya wrote:I don't oppose prisoners working for "common good" it actually can be a significant part of rehabilitating them and preparing their reinsertion into society. But it should always be : 1. voluntary 2. decently paid 3. ensuring they are not being put into danger. I fear none of those 3 conditions are met...

Keep in mind that this is a jail, not a prison, so the people there have either been given very short sentences, or are being held awaiting trial because they can't afford bail. These are petty criminals at worst, and many of them are innocent people who have not yet had their day in court.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:12 am

Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

That is horrifying. I’m absolutely ashamed. Even if the jail fared well, the rest of the area did not. I cannot imagine the terror these people felt - I was terrified at 80mph winds, they got almost 140 mph winds. And now they are stuck in unsurvivable conditions. What a nightmare. Lafourche’s sheriff needs to especially step down.
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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:15 am

Luminesa wrote:
Kowani wrote:Louisiana detainees used as labour to fill sandbags to protect property, but left behind when Hurricane Ida rolled through

Last Friday, as Hurricane Ida was tearing up trees and ripping roofs from homes in western Cuba, officials on the Louisiana coast put out the call to residents: Get out. Forecasters were saying the “extremely dangerous major hurricane” would make a beeline for the bayous and oil refineries along the Gulf Coast. In Lafourche Parish, where the storm would eventually make its landfall, parish president Archie Chaisson issued a mandatory evacuation order. “Not the easiest decision I’ve ever made in life here in parish government,” Chaisson told residents in a Facebook livestream. “But one we felt was necessary, as a group, to help keep everybody safe.”

Everybody, that is, except the roughly 600 people locked in the Lafourche Parish Detention Center. A day after the evacuation order, some of the detainees were tasked with filling up sandbags to protect residents’ property against flooding. People incarcerated in the parish were not evacuated, even as the storm gained massive force over the next 24 hours—building from the Category 1 storm over Cuba to a Category 4 cyclone just offshore.

The legacy of Hurricane Katrina looms large over this decision. In 2005, before that disaster, the sheriff in New Orleans, Marlin Gusman, decided that people in his massive Orleans Parish Prison would “stay where they belong,” even though the mayor had issued a mandatory evacuation order. When the storm hit the city, the jail’s generators failed, plunging around 7,000 prisoners, pretrial detainees, and staff into darkness and sweltering heat. Lacking electricity, many cell doors were stuck shut; detained adults and children remained trapped for days as their cells filled up to chest height with sewage-tainted water, according to an ACLU report published the following year and based on interviews with hundreds of people. By the time the sheriff changed his mind and decided to evacuate, there were only three boats available. The number of deaths is still disputed.

Perhaps with this history in mind, many Louisiana sheriffs decided to evacuate their jails in advance of Ida. Nicholas Chrastil, writing in the Lens, reports that hundreds of pretrial detainees were sent from the Orleans Parish Prison to the Louisiana State Penitentiary, better known as Angola, which is further inland (According to state data, 27 staff and eight prisoners in Angola were COVID-positive as of last Wednesday.) Other sheriffs made the same call, evacuating parish jails in Plaquemines, Acadia, St. Mary, Vermillion, Terrebonne, and St. Bernard, according to Chrastil.

Yet the people incarcerated in Lafourche went nowhere. They’d been made to fill sandbags in the days leading up to the storm’s landfall and were still doing that work after the evacuation order, according to a video posted to the sheriff’s Twitter and Instagram pages on Saturday, and since deleted. According to the post, pre-filled sandbags were available to elderly and disabled residents. Lafourche Sheriff Craig Webre wasn’t the only Louisiana sheriff to decide to keep incarcerated people in the storm’s path. The Jefferson Parish Correctional Center, on the bank of the Mississippi, kept 1,100 detainees in place. Jails in St. Charles Parish and St. John the Baptist Parish also did not evacuate. […] As it turned out, St. Charles and Lafourche parishes sustained some of the worst damage in the region. Webre told CNN on Sunday night that every road in the parish was impassible and two of three hospitals were damaged. Power in the region is not expected to be restored for weeks. A break in a water main has left many without clean water. But the sheriff’s gamble may have worked out, at least according to his spokesperson: On Monday, public information officer Capt. Brennan Matherne told Chrastil that the jail, though running on generator power, sustained “minimal damage.”

That is horrifying. I’m absolutely ashamed. Even if the jail fared well, the rest of the area did not. I cannot imagine the terror these people felt - I was terrified at 80mph winds, they got almost 140 mph winds. And now they are stuck in unsurvivable conditions. What a nightmare. Lafourche’s sheriff needs to especially step down.

Totally agree. There are only a few groups of people that the government is completely responsible for: kids in care and people it's decided to lock up are two of the most obvious. When the government has a group like that and it has decided deliberately not to protect them any blood is on its hands.
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Department of Justice takes on Texas

Attorney General Merrick Garland said Monday that the Justice Department will work to protect the safety of people seeking abortions in Texas as the agency continues to explore how it can challenge the state’s new anti-abortion law.

Garland said in a statement that while the Justice Department urgently explores “all options” to challenge the Texas law, “we will continue to protect those seeking to obtain or provide reproductive health services pursuant to our criminal and civil enforcement of the FACE Act.” The department will also provide federal law enforcement support when an abortion clinic or reproductive health center is “under attack,” according to the attorney general. The FACE Act, or Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, is a federal law enacted in 1994 that bans physically obstructing or using the threat of force to injure, intimidate or interfere with a person seeking reproductive health services. The law also prohibits intentional property damage at abortion clinics and other reproductive health centers.

“We have reached out to U.S. Attorneys’ Offices and FBI field offices in Texas and across the country to discuss our enforcement authorities,” Garland said. “We will not tolerate violence against those seeking to obtain or provide reproductive health services, physical obstruction or property damage in violation of the FACE Act.”

It’s unclear how helpful the FACE Act will be in Texas, where the extremely restrictive new law bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy ― a time when most people are unaware that they’re pregnant ― and provides $10,000 bounties to private citizens who enforce the law by successfully suing anyone they suspect to be assisting in a person’s attempt to obtain an abortion. The ban went into effect Wednesday after the Supreme Court’s conservative majority declined to block it.

[...] Garland said last week that the Justice Department is “evaluating all options to protect the constitutional rights of women, including access to abortion.” President Joe Biden directed the Gender Policy Council and the Office of the White House Counsel to launch a “whole-of-government effort to respond to” the Supreme Court’s decision to allow the law to go into effect, including investigating what the Justice and Health and Human Services departments can do to make sure people in Texas can access abortions. But it’s still unclear what the administration can actually do to protect abortion access while the Texas law remains in effect.
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Almost 2 million records from the FBI’s terrorist watchlist leaked online

A copy of the FBI’s terrorist watchlist was exposed online for three weeks between July 19 and August 9, 2021, a security researcher revealed today.

Known as the FBI Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), the database was created in 2003 as a response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Managed by the FBI, the database contains the names and personal details of individuals who are “known or reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activities.”

While the database is managed by the FBI, the agency also provides access to it to several other US government agencies, including the Department of State, Department of Defense, the Transportation Security Authority, the Customs and Border Protection, and even some international law enforcement partners.

While the database contains data on suspected terrorists, it is also better known in popular culture as the US No Fly List, being primarily used by US authorities and international airlines to allow entry into the US or travel within its territory. In a LinkedIn post today, Bob Diachenko, Cyber Threat Intelligence Director at security firm Security Discovery, said he discovered a copy of the TSC database on a Bahrainian IP address.

“The exposed Elasticsearch cluster contained 1.9 million records,” Diachenko said. “I do not know how much of the full TSC Watchlist it stored, but it seems plausible that the entire list was exposed.”

Information exposed in the leak included data points such as:

Full name
TSC watchlist ID
Citizenship
Gender
Date of birth
Passport number
Country of issuance
No-fly indicator

Diachenko said he notified the Department of Homeland Security on July 19, the day the database was indexed by search engines Censys and ZoomEye, and when he also found it. Contacted by The Record earlier today, the FBI had no comment.

It is unclear if the exposed Elasticsearch server was managed by a US agency, one of its partners, or if this was an illegally obtained copy.

While the existence of the TSC database was kept secret for more than a decade, in recent years, the DHS began notifying US citizens when they were added to the TSC’s No Fly List.

Without knowing who is to blame for this leak, it is unclear if the FBI or DHS will have to notify US citizens that were added on the TSC No Fly List that their data was exposed online.
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Postby Antipatros » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:26 pm

Kowani wrote:Almost 2 million records from the FBI’s terrorist watchlist leaked online

A copy of the FBI’s terrorist watchlist was exposed online for three weeks between July 19 and August 9, 2021, a security researcher revealed today.

Known as the FBI Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), the database was created in 2003 as a response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Managed by the FBI, the database contains the names and personal details of individuals who are “known or reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activities.”

While the database is managed by the FBI, the agency also provides access to it to several other US government agencies, including the Department of State, Department of Defense, the Transportation Security Authority, the Customs and Border Protection, and even some international law enforcement partners.

While the database contains data on suspected terrorists, it is also better known in popular culture as the US No Fly List, being primarily used by US authorities and international airlines to allow entry into the US or travel within its territory. In a LinkedIn post today, Bob Diachenko, Cyber Threat Intelligence Director at security firm Security Discovery, said he discovered a copy of the TSC database on a Bahrainian IP address.

“The exposed Elasticsearch cluster contained 1.9 million records,” Diachenko said. “I do not know how much of the full TSC Watchlist it stored, but it seems plausible that the entire list was exposed.”

Information exposed in the leak included data points such as:

Full name
TSC watchlist ID
Citizenship
Gender
Date of birth
Passport number
Country of issuance
No-fly indicator

Diachenko said he notified the Department of Homeland Security on July 19, the day the database was indexed by search engines Censys and ZoomEye, and when he also found it. Contacted by The Record earlier today, the FBI had no comment.

It is unclear if the exposed Elasticsearch server was managed by a US agency, one of its partners, or if this was an illegally obtained copy.

While the existence of the TSC database was kept secret for more than a decade, in recent years, the DHS began notifying US citizens when they were added to the TSC’s No Fly List.

Without knowing who is to blame for this leak, it is unclear if the FBI or DHS will have to notify US citizens that were added on the TSC No Fly List that their data was exposed online.

This kind of stuff happens, and yet there are people who seriously think that the government should be trusted with key escrow or crypto backdoors. :unsure:

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Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:59 pm

Antipatros wrote:
Kowani wrote:Almost 2 million records from the FBI’s terrorist watchlist leaked online

A copy of the FBI’s terrorist watchlist was exposed online for three weeks between July 19 and August 9, 2021, a security researcher revealed today.

Known as the FBI Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), the database was created in 2003 as a response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Managed by the FBI, the database contains the names and personal details of individuals who are “known or reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activities.”

While the database is managed by the FBI, the agency also provides access to it to several other US government agencies, including the Department of State, Department of Defense, the Transportation Security Authority, the Customs and Border Protection, and even some international law enforcement partners.

While the database contains data on suspected terrorists, it is also better known in popular culture as the US No Fly List, being primarily used by US authorities and international airlines to allow entry into the US or travel within its territory. In a LinkedIn post today, Bob Diachenko, Cyber Threat Intelligence Director at security firm Security Discovery, said he discovered a copy of the TSC database on a Bahrainian IP address.

“The exposed Elasticsearch cluster contained 1.9 million records,” Diachenko said. “I do not know how much of the full TSC Watchlist it stored, but it seems plausible that the entire list was exposed.”

Information exposed in the leak included data points such as:

Full name
TSC watchlist ID
Citizenship
Gender
Date of birth
Passport number
Country of issuance
No-fly indicator

Diachenko said he notified the Department of Homeland Security on July 19, the day the database was indexed by search engines Censys and ZoomEye, and when he also found it. Contacted by The Record earlier today, the FBI had no comment.

It is unclear if the exposed Elasticsearch server was managed by a US agency, one of its partners, or if this was an illegally obtained copy.

While the existence of the TSC database was kept secret for more than a decade, in recent years, the DHS began notifying US citizens when they were added to the TSC’s No Fly List.

Without knowing who is to blame for this leak, it is unclear if the FBI or DHS will have to notify US citizens that were added on the TSC No Fly List that their data was exposed online.

This kind of stuff happens, and yet there are people who seriously think that the government should be trusted with key escrow or crypto backdoors. :unsure:

Pfft. Back in the day I was notified by my congressperson when I lived in Minnesota that Bush's Justice Department had me on a government list due to signing petitions calling for the end of a few things. War on Drugs. War in Iraq. War in Afghanistan.

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Antipatros wrote:This kind of stuff happens, and yet there are people who seriously think that the government should be trusted with key escrow or crypto backdoors. :unsure:

Pfft. Back in the day I was notified by my congressperson when I lived in Minnesota that Bush's Justice Department had me on a government list due to signing petitions calling for the end of a few things. War on Drugs. War in Iraq. War in Afghanistan.

Good times. Good times.

i'm probably on a few lists tbh
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:21 pm

Antipatros wrote:
Kowani wrote:Almost 2 million records from the FBI’s terrorist watchlist leaked online

A copy of the FBI’s terrorist watchlist was exposed online for three weeks between July 19 and August 9, 2021, a security researcher revealed today.

Known as the FBI Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), the database was created in 2003 as a response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Managed by the FBI, the database contains the names and personal details of individuals who are “known or reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activities.”

While the database is managed by the FBI, the agency also provides access to it to several other US government agencies, including the Department of State, Department of Defense, the Transportation Security Authority, the Customs and Border Protection, and even some international law enforcement partners.

While the database contains data on suspected terrorists, it is also better known in popular culture as the US No Fly List, being primarily used by US authorities and international airlines to allow entry into the US or travel within its territory. In a LinkedIn post today, Bob Diachenko, Cyber Threat Intelligence Director at security firm Security Discovery, said he discovered a copy of the TSC database on a Bahrainian IP address.

“The exposed Elasticsearch cluster contained 1.9 million records,” Diachenko said. “I do not know how much of the full TSC Watchlist it stored, but it seems plausible that the entire list was exposed.”

Information exposed in the leak included data points such as:

Full name
TSC watchlist ID
Citizenship
Gender
Date of birth
Passport number
Country of issuance
No-fly indicator

Diachenko said he notified the Department of Homeland Security on July 19, the day the database was indexed by search engines Censys and ZoomEye, and when he also found it. Contacted by The Record earlier today, the FBI had no comment.

It is unclear if the exposed Elasticsearch server was managed by a US agency, one of its partners, or if this was an illegally obtained copy.

While the existence of the TSC database was kept secret for more than a decade, in recent years, the DHS began notifying US citizens when they were added to the TSC’s No Fly List.

Without knowing who is to blame for this leak, it is unclear if the FBI or DHS will have to notify US citizens that were added on the TSC No Fly List that their data was exposed online.

This kind of stuff happens, and yet there are people who seriously think that the government should be trusted with key escrow or crypto backdoors. :unsure:


Depends on the section. Some? No way in hell. The are groups who could handle it just fine.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:49 pm

So this happened in Bexar County, where I live.
SAN ANTONIO — As Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff was leaving an H-E-B on Sunday, he was approached by a person who recorded video while calling him a communist and a traitor.

The video was posted Sunday by @ashleyrockshair on Instagram. It was recorded at the store on NW Military Road in San Antonio.

The video, which runs more than three minutes, captures Wolff walking out of the store to his vehicle, pushing his grocery cart.

"You're a communist, Nelson Wolff. You're a traitor," the woman yells. She follows him and continues to say things like, "Putting masks on kids -- that's child abuse." She also says not wanting to recount the election makes him a traitor.

Wolff is seen continuing to walk through the parking lot, eventually unloading his groceries into his car trunk while the woman continues to record.

"You better enjoy your freedom while it lasts, buddy. Then you got to answer to God," she says. "Masks don't even work."

The video ends with the woman saying again, "Nelson Wolff is a communist and a traitor."

When contacted by KENS 5, the woman identified herself as Ashley and gave the following statement:

“I want everyone to see it and to know they too can be brave and do the same. I hope it encourages many more to follow in my footsteps and stand up for their freedoms!”

She continued:

“This is far bigger than just Nelson Wolff. Lin Wood says 97% of our government is corrupt and we the people need to know who stands for us and not against us! Texas needs to audit our election! The United States of America does not want to be a communist country. We want freedom and democracy!”

Public Information Officer Monica Ramos confirmed the incident, saying no one was harmed.

Wolff also responded to the incident:

“I realize, after a year and a half, we all are experiencing COVID fatigue from wearing masks and other public health guidelines. Now is the not the time to stop and let our guard down," he said. "Our numbers are coming down slowly. Let’s keep this downward trend going. Mask up, keep social distance, and sanitize."

Ramos said there would be no further comment on the incident.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/loca ... 2348cb3741
Honestly this part here sounds like a threat.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:57 pm

Genivaria wrote:So this happened in Bexar County, where I live.
SAN ANTONIO — As Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff was leaving an H-E-B on Sunday, he was approached by a person who recorded video while calling him a communist and a traitor.

The video was posted Sunday by @ashleyrockshair on Instagram. It was recorded at the store on NW Military Road in San Antonio.

The video, which runs more than three minutes, captures Wolff walking out of the store to his vehicle, pushing his grocery cart.

"You're a communist, Nelson Wolff. You're a traitor," the woman yells. She follows him and continues to say things like, "Putting masks on kids -- that's child abuse." She also says not wanting to recount the election makes him a traitor.

Wolff is seen continuing to walk through the parking lot, eventually unloading his groceries into his car trunk while the woman continues to record.

"You better enjoy your freedom while it lasts, buddy. Then you got to answer to God," she says. "Masks don't even work."

The video ends with the woman saying again, "Nelson Wolff is a communist and a traitor."

When contacted by KENS 5, the woman identified herself as Ashley and gave the following statement:

“I want everyone to see it and to know they too can be brave and do the same. I hope it encourages many more to follow in my footsteps and stand up for their freedoms!”

She continued:

“This is far bigger than just Nelson Wolff. Lin Wood says 97% of our government is corrupt and we the people need to know who stands for us and not against us! Texas needs to audit our election! The United States of America does not want to be a communist country. We want freedom and democracy!”

Public Information Officer Monica Ramos confirmed the incident, saying no one was harmed.

Wolff also responded to the incident:

“I realize, after a year and a half, we all are experiencing COVID fatigue from wearing masks and other public health guidelines. Now is the not the time to stop and let our guard down," he said. "Our numbers are coming down slowly. Let’s keep this downward trend going. Mask up, keep social distance, and sanitize."

Ramos said there would be no further comment on the incident.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/loca ... 2348cb3741
Honestly this part here sounds like a threat.
"You better enjoy your freedom while it lasts, buddy. Then you got to answer to God,


It is. She should be arrested and psych evaluated.

Aren’t there any laws in Texas about recording license plates?
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:So this happened in Bexar County, where I live.
SAN ANTONIO — As Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff was leaving an H-E-B on Sunday, he was approached by a person who recorded video while calling him a communist and a traitor.

The video was posted Sunday by @ashleyrockshair on Instagram. It was recorded at the store on NW Military Road in San Antonio.

The video, which runs more than three minutes, captures Wolff walking out of the store to his vehicle, pushing his grocery cart.

"You're a communist, Nelson Wolff. You're a traitor," the woman yells. She follows him and continues to say things like, "Putting masks on kids -- that's child abuse." She also says not wanting to recount the election makes him a traitor.

Wolff is seen continuing to walk through the parking lot, eventually unloading his groceries into his car trunk while the woman continues to record.

"You better enjoy your freedom while it lasts, buddy. Then you got to answer to God," she says. "Masks don't even work."

The video ends with the woman saying again, "Nelson Wolff is a communist and a traitor."

When contacted by KENS 5, the woman identified herself as Ashley and gave the following statement:

“I want everyone to see it and to know they too can be brave and do the same. I hope it encourages many more to follow in my footsteps and stand up for their freedoms!”

She continued:

“This is far bigger than just Nelson Wolff. Lin Wood says 97% of our government is corrupt and we the people need to know who stands for us and not against us! Texas needs to audit our election! The United States of America does not want to be a communist country. We want freedom and democracy!”

Public Information Officer Monica Ramos confirmed the incident, saying no one was harmed.

Wolff also responded to the incident:

“I realize, after a year and a half, we all are experiencing COVID fatigue from wearing masks and other public health guidelines. Now is the not the time to stop and let our guard down," he said. "Our numbers are coming down slowly. Let’s keep this downward trend going. Mask up, keep social distance, and sanitize."

Ramos said there would be no further comment on the incident.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/loca ... 2348cb3741
Honestly this part here sounds like a threat.
"You better enjoy your freedom while it lasts, buddy. Then you got to answer to God,

Strangely, a quick search found nothing similar. So she's either hired by Wood or the news station.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:04 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So this happened in Bexar County, where I live.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/loca ... 2348cb3741
Honestly this part here sounds like a threat.

Strangely, a quick search found nothing similar. So she's either hired by Wood or the news station.

Honestly just searching Bexar County Nelson under News should bring it up.
https://www.tpr.org/news/2021-09-06/bex ... to-mask-up
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/ ... 438895.php
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Strangely, a quick search found nothing similar. So she's either hired by Wood or the news station.

Honestly just searching Bexar County under News should bring it up.

I was talking about Lin Wood saying 97% of the government was corrupt. Sorry if you didn't notice the emboldment, I probably should've edited out the rest.
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