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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
166
25%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
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7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
106
16%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Total votes : 653

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Postby Odreria » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:47 pm

Kowani wrote:Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:20 pm

Odreria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis


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https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

Central Park 5 member, Yusef Salaam, to run for Harlem state senate seat

The incumbent Brian Benjamin is vacating this seat to become Lieutenant Governor. The election will be held November 2nd. No primary will be held as per New York law nominees for state legislative special elections are chosen by party convention.

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Postby The Andorian System » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:53 pm

Odreria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis


Sorry, but Covid misinformation doesn't just affect the gullible.
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Postby Eahland » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:10 pm

Odreria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis

In case you hadn't noticed, there is in fact a major ongoing public health crisis, which has killed more than 650,000 Americans to date, and which is being amplified and perpetuated by certain parties spreading deliberate misinformation and actively combating vital public health measures.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:15 pm

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:28 pm

I just hope that this brings more momentum towards repealing Roe v Wade. The alternative way of banning abortion is far worse than the straightforward way. And one way will inevitably be chosen by Republican states.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:31 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:I just hope that this brings more momentum towards repealing Roe v Wade. The alternative way of banning abortion is far worse than the straightforward way. And one way will inevitably be chosen by Republican states.


Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I just hope that this brings more momentum towards repealing Roe v Wade. The alternative way of banning abortion is far worse than the straightforward way. And one way will inevitably be chosen by Republican states.


Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:45 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.


Yeah, spoken like a man who knows nothing about about abortion.
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Postby Eahland » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:46 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.

Every woman forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term is two lives destroyed. As an added bonus, the new Texas law lets you destroy the lives of everyone she knows, too!
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:56 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.


And if its a rape or incest victim or toxic pregnancy tough luck? We do have a dictated abortion thread.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:06 pm

Louisiana Department of Health shuts down seven nursing homes whose 800 residents were evacuated to a filthy warehouse during Hurricane Ida, killing 7

The Louisiana Department of Health announced Saturday evening that they are shutting down seven nursing homes owned by Baton Rouge businessman Bob Dean after the nursing homes sent more than 800 residents to a warehouse for Hurricane Ida, where residents were living in filth and calling out for help.

The Hurricane Ida evacuation has already resulted in seven deaths, dozens of hospitalizations and hundreds of families trying to find their loved ones after learning about the inhumane conditions. LDH has opened an investigation into what happened, and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry has opened an investigation as well.

The seven nursing homes being shut down are River Palms Nursing and Rehab in Orleans Parish, South Lafourche Nursing and Rehab in Lafourche Parish, Maison Orleans Healthcare Center in Orleans Parish, Park Place Healthcare Nursing Home in Jefferson Parish, West Jefferson Health Care Center in Jefferson Parish, Maison DeVille Nursing Home in Terrebonne Parish and Maison DeVille Nursing Home of Harvey in Jefferson Parish.
"What happened in Independence is reprehensible, and I know there are many families hurting as a result,” said LDH Secretary Dr. Courtney N. Phillips in a news release. “Today’s action against these facilities is needed. There is more to come. Our Department’s mission is to advance the health and well-being of our residents — and that includes our vulnerable nursing home residents.”

LDH inspectors visited the site multiple times before nursing home management kicked them off the premises on August 31. The next day, they began to rescue the 800 plus residents living at the warehouse in Independence.

Louisiana State Health Officer Dr. Joseph Kanter signed the emergency order Saturday to close the nursing homes. The order says it will remain in effect until September 10, but that it's subject to extensions at Kanter's discretion. An LDH spokeswoman said the state is also pursuing permanent regulatory action against Dean's nursing homes.

The order says that LDH personnel observed "conditions that have caused great concern" and that Kanter reasonably believes "may cause a danger to public life, health and safety." The conditions — in which nursing home residents were tightly packed together in the warehouse — also caused concerns about the spread of infectious disease, the order states. The observations from the warehouse site "call into question" the ability of the nursing homes "to properly provide for the full spectrum of care required of these residents, and calls into question infectious disease suppression protocols, especially if evacuation of residents is required."

The order also states that if the nursing homes meet conditions for reopening, they cannot admit any residents until LDH completes its investigation into the warehouse evacuation.

“The lack of regard for these vulnerable residents' well-being is an affront to human dignity," Kanter said in a statement. "We have lost trust in these nursing homes to provide adequate care for their residents. We are taking immediate action today to protect public health."

Dean's evacuation plans had been approved by the state ahead of Hurricane Ida, and they made clear that the plan was to send all seven homes to the warehouse of Waterbury Companies in Tangipahoa, which Dean also owned. Dean also clustered his nursing homes together at warehouselike facilities he owned during evacuations in the past.

LDH officials have not answered questions about why they approved Dean's evacuation plans. But they have said that conditions at the warehouse "deteriorated" significantly after the storm, and Saturday's news release says LDH workers were "subject to intimidation by the owner of the seven nursing facilities."

"We only had five deaths within the six days... normally with 850 people you'll have a couple a day," Dean told WVUE-TV this week. "So, we did really good on taking care of people."
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Kowani wrote:Louisiana Department of Health shuts down seven nursing homes whose 800 residents were evacuated to a filthy warehouse during Hurricane Ida, killing 7

The Louisiana Department of Health announced Saturday evening that they are shutting down seven nursing homes owned by Baton Rouge businessman Bob Dean after the nursing homes sent more than 800 residents to a warehouse for Hurricane Ida, where residents were living in filth and calling out for help.

The Hurricane Ida evacuation has already resulted in seven deaths, dozens of hospitalizations and hundreds of families trying to find their loved ones after learning about the inhumane conditions. LDH has opened an investigation into what happened, and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry has opened an investigation as well.

The seven nursing homes being shut down are River Palms Nursing and Rehab in Orleans Parish, South Lafourche Nursing and Rehab in Lafourche Parish, Maison Orleans Healthcare Center in Orleans Parish, Park Place Healthcare Nursing Home in Jefferson Parish, West Jefferson Health Care Center in Jefferson Parish, Maison DeVille Nursing Home in Terrebonne Parish and Maison DeVille Nursing Home of Harvey in Jefferson Parish.
"What happened in Independence is reprehensible, and I know there are many families hurting as a result,” said LDH Secretary Dr. Courtney N. Phillips in a news release. “Today’s action against these facilities is needed. There is more to come. Our Department’s mission is to advance the health and well-being of our residents — and that includes our vulnerable nursing home residents.”

LDH inspectors visited the site multiple times before nursing home management kicked them off the premises on August 31. The next day, they began to rescue the 800 plus residents living at the warehouse in Independence.

Louisiana State Health Officer Dr. Joseph Kanter signed the emergency order Saturday to close the nursing homes. The order says it will remain in effect until September 10, but that it's subject to extensions at Kanter's discretion. An LDH spokeswoman said the state is also pursuing permanent regulatory action against Dean's nursing homes.

The order says that LDH personnel observed "conditions that have caused great concern" and that Kanter reasonably believes "may cause a danger to public life, health and safety." The conditions — in which nursing home residents were tightly packed together in the warehouse — also caused concerns about the spread of infectious disease, the order states. The observations from the warehouse site "call into question" the ability of the nursing homes "to properly provide for the full spectrum of care required of these residents, and calls into question infectious disease suppression protocols, especially if evacuation of residents is required."

The order also states that if the nursing homes meet conditions for reopening, they cannot admit any residents until LDH completes its investigation into the warehouse evacuation.

“The lack of regard for these vulnerable residents' well-being is an affront to human dignity," Kanter said in a statement. "We have lost trust in these nursing homes to provide adequate care for their residents. We are taking immediate action today to protect public health."

Dean's evacuation plans had been approved by the state ahead of Hurricane Ida, and they made clear that the plan was to send all seven homes to the warehouse of Waterbury Companies in Tangipahoa, which Dean also owned. Dean also clustered his nursing homes together at warehouselike facilities he owned during evacuations in the past.

LDH officials have not answered questions about why they approved Dean's evacuation plans. But they have said that conditions at the warehouse "deteriorated" significantly after the storm, and Saturday's news release says LDH workers were "subject to intimidation by the owner of the seven nursing facilities."

"We only had five deaths within the six days... normally with 850 people you'll have a couple a day," Dean told WVUE-TV this week. "So, we did really good on taking care of people."

This country is a fucking nightmare jfc

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Louisiana Department of Health shuts down seven nursing homes whose 800 residents were evacuated to a filthy warehouse during Hurricane Ida, killing 7

The Louisiana Department of Health announced Saturday evening that they are shutting down seven nursing homes owned by Baton Rouge businessman Bob Dean after the nursing homes sent more than 800 residents to a warehouse for Hurricane Ida, where residents were living in filth and calling out for help.

The Hurricane Ida evacuation has already resulted in seven deaths, dozens of hospitalizations and hundreds of families trying to find their loved ones after learning about the inhumane conditions. LDH has opened an investigation into what happened, and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry has opened an investigation as well.

The seven nursing homes being shut down are River Palms Nursing and Rehab in Orleans Parish, South Lafourche Nursing and Rehab in Lafourche Parish, Maison Orleans Healthcare Center in Orleans Parish, Park Place Healthcare Nursing Home in Jefferson Parish, West Jefferson Health Care Center in Jefferson Parish, Maison DeVille Nursing Home in Terrebonne Parish and Maison DeVille Nursing Home of Harvey in Jefferson Parish.
"What happened in Independence is reprehensible, and I know there are many families hurting as a result,” said LDH Secretary Dr. Courtney N. Phillips in a news release. “Today’s action against these facilities is needed. There is more to come. Our Department’s mission is to advance the health and well-being of our residents — and that includes our vulnerable nursing home residents.”

LDH inspectors visited the site multiple times before nursing home management kicked them off the premises on August 31. The next day, they began to rescue the 800 plus residents living at the warehouse in Independence.

Louisiana State Health Officer Dr. Joseph Kanter signed the emergency order Saturday to close the nursing homes. The order says it will remain in effect until September 10, but that it's subject to extensions at Kanter's discretion. An LDH spokeswoman said the state is also pursuing permanent regulatory action against Dean's nursing homes.

The order says that LDH personnel observed "conditions that have caused great concern" and that Kanter reasonably believes "may cause a danger to public life, health and safety." The conditions — in which nursing home residents were tightly packed together in the warehouse — also caused concerns about the spread of infectious disease, the order states. The observations from the warehouse site "call into question" the ability of the nursing homes "to properly provide for the full spectrum of care required of these residents, and calls into question infectious disease suppression protocols, especially if evacuation of residents is required."

The order also states that if the nursing homes meet conditions for reopening, they cannot admit any residents until LDH completes its investigation into the warehouse evacuation.

“The lack of regard for these vulnerable residents' well-being is an affront to human dignity," Kanter said in a statement. "We have lost trust in these nursing homes to provide adequate care for their residents. We are taking immediate action today to protect public health."

Dean's evacuation plans had been approved by the state ahead of Hurricane Ida, and they made clear that the plan was to send all seven homes to the warehouse of Waterbury Companies in Tangipahoa, which Dean also owned. Dean also clustered his nursing homes together at warehouselike facilities he owned during evacuations in the past.

LDH officials have not answered questions about why they approved Dean's evacuation plans. But they have said that conditions at the warehouse "deteriorated" significantly after the storm, and Saturday's news release says LDH workers were "subject to intimidation by the owner of the seven nursing facilities."

"We only had five deaths within the six days... normally with 850 people you'll have a couple a day," Dean told WVUE-TV this week. "So, we did really good on taking care of people."


I had to reread that. Is "We usually lose more of them" seriously their defense?
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Postby Diahon » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:10 pm

if somebody tells me the way out of that fucking morass is to appeal to the free fucking market as well, i will do indescribable atrocities to their fucking person

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:13 pm

Diahon wrote:if somebody tells me the way out of that fucking morass is to appeal to the free fucking market as well, i will do indescribable atrocities to their fucking person


The only way out is the free market.
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Tarsonis wrote:
Diahon wrote:if somebody tells me the way out of that fucking morass is to appeal to the free fucking market as well, i will do indescribable atrocities to their fucking person


The only way out is the free market.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:26 pm

Diahon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
The only way out is the free market.

...

he did it to me the other day but my challenge was substantially easier
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:58 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/politics ... index.html

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and his husband Chasten announced the birth of their son and daughter on Saturday. There names are Penelope and Joesph.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:52 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah who cares about the women who suffer pain and suffering.

Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.

Do you oppose the use of lethal force in self defence or the defence of others?

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Every abortion prevented is a life saved. I put life over all other priorities.

Do you oppose the use of lethal force in self defence or the defence of others?

No, I believe the only exception to my beliefs is to end a life to save a life.
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