American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[Genivaria]

the Trump Train derails

According to The Texas Tribune, members of the “Trump Train” and law enforcement in Texas have been sued over the October 2020 incident in which Trump supporters harassed a Biden campaign bus and nearly ran it off the road.

Former state Sen. Wendy Davis and others who were traveling on a campaign bus for President Joe Biden last fall when it was surrounded and followed by former President Donald Trump’s supporters on a Texas highway have filed multiple lawsuits over the events that transpired that day. The suits target people who were allegedly following and harassing the bus, as well as local law enforcement for not helping after assistance was requested, according to those on the bus.

The lawsuit filed in federal court Thursday against at least seven members of the so-called “Trump Train,” who followed the bus, claims the group violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 and Texas law by organizing a “politically-motivated conspiracy to disrupt the campaign and intimidate its supporters.”

The Klan Act prevents groups from joining together to obstruct free and fair federal elections by intimidating and injuring voters, or denying them the ability to engage in political speech.

The second lawsuit was filed against law enforcement who “turned a blind eye to the attack — despite pleas for help — and failed to provide the bus a police escort,” according to Protect Democracy, the group of lawyers representing the plaintiffs. The second lawsuit was filed against Chase Stapp, the head of San Marcos’ director of public safety, and the San Marcos City Marshal’s Department.

Ah yes San Marcos, an hour's drive away.
Always nice to see local news being posted.

[Lady Victory]

the Trump Train derails

According to The Texas Tribune, members of the “Trump Train” and law enforcement in Texas have been sued over the October 2020 incident in which Trump supporters harassed a Biden campaign bus and nearly ran it off the road.

Former state Sen. Wendy Davis and others who were traveling on a campaign bus for President Joe Biden last fall when it was surrounded and followed by former President Donald Trump’s supporters on a Texas highway have filed multiple lawsuits over the events that transpired that day. The suits target people who were allegedly following and harassing the bus, as well as local law enforcement for not helping after assistance was requested, according to those on the bus.

The lawsuit filed in federal court Thursday against at least seven members of the so-called “Trump Train,” who followed the bus, claims the group violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 and Texas law by organizing a “politically-motivated conspiracy to disrupt the campaign and intimidate its supporters.”

The Klan Act prevents groups from joining together to obstruct free and fair federal elections by intimidating and injuring voters, or denying them the ability to engage in political speech.

The second lawsuit was filed against law enforcement who “turned a blind eye to the attack — despite pleas for help — and failed to provide the bus a police escort,” according to Protect Democracy, the group of lawyers representing the plaintiffs. The second lawsuit was filed against Chase Stapp, the head of San Marcos’ director of public safety, and the San Marcos City Marshal’s Department.

Imagine being so radical that you end up violating an Act of Congress passed in 1871 fucking lmao.

[Bear Stearns]

Fox News Host Laura Ingraham wants to defund the military.
https://theweek.com/fox-news/1001901/ou ... n-over-gen

I want to defund the military too.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Fox News Host Laura Ingraham wants to defund the military.
https://theweek.com/fox-news/1001901/ou ... n-over-gen

I want to defund the military too.

Laura Ingram wants to defund the military because a general didn’t see an issue in CRT, and read books on different ideologies?

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... -in-sexual

New York attorney general questions Cuomo senior adviser in sexual harassment probe: report

I would say there is a decent possibility Cuomo isn't the nominee for governor in 2022.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

Fox News Host Laura Ingraham wants to defund the military.
https://theweek.com/fox-news/1001901/ou ... n-over-gen

"Far-left Marxist racist ideology"

Jesus Christ. These people are making word salads again. And worst-

"We are sending our tax dollars to this military in an attempt to week out so-called 'extremists,'" Ingraham said, saying these "extremists" are just "conservative evangelicals" and not, as the Pentagon contends, white nationalist militants.

Clearly her mindset is somewhere else too...

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Georgia judge tosses most of lawsuit seeking to audit 2020 Fulton County ballots

An attorney for the Fulton elections board said the ruling prevents the possibility for an in-person review of absentee ballots using high-powered microscopes in the Georgia World Congress Center, as sought by those who believe fraud produced Democrat Joe Biden’s 12,000-vote win in Georgia over Republican Donald Trump.

“That litigation is finished,” said Don Samuel, a prominent Atlanta attorney hired by the Fulton elections board. “Is there going to be an audit? Not right now. ... There’s no discovery permitted. There’s no lawsuit pending anymore.”

So much winning!

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

Yes so is corporate profit, which steals far more of your labor than the government taxes does.

The difference between the two is that buying from corporations is voluntary, while paying your taxes is mandatory. If you don't like the corporate product, stop paying for it. If you don't like the government product, tough luck, you're paying anyway.

>ancap voluntarist: if you choose to kill yourself/starve to death/die from exposure, then you don't have to be a wage slave. it's voluntary. checkmate libtard.
>me: if you kill yourself, then you don't have to pay taxes to the state.

[San Lumen]

Georgia judge tosses most of lawsuit seeking to audit 2020 Fulton County ballots

An attorney for the Fulton elections board said the ruling prevents the possibility for an in-person review of absentee ballots using high-powered microscopes in the Georgia World Congress Center, as sought by those who believe fraud produced Democrat Joe Biden’s 12,000-vote win in Georgia over Republican Donald Trump.

“That litigation is finished,” said Don Samuel, a prominent Atlanta attorney hired by the Fulton elections board. “Is there going to be an audit? Not right now. ... There’s no discovery permitted. There’s no lawsuit pending anymore.”

So much winning!

The judges are obviously in on the mass conspiracy that somehow skipped every other election on the ballot.

[Genivaria]

"Far-left Marxist racist ideology"

Jesus Christ. These people are making word salads again. And worst-

"We are sending our tax dollars to this military in an attempt to week out so-called 'extremists,'" Ingraham said, saying these "extremists" are just "conservative evangelicals" and not, as the Pentagon contends, white nationalist militants.

Clearly her mindset is somewhere else too...

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

Valid, my point is more just pointing out the Republican illusion of supporting the troops is super fical.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

Valid, my point is more just pointing out the Republican illusion of supporting the troops is super fical.

I read that as ‘super fecal’, and now I can’t read it as anything else.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

Valid, my point is more just pointing out the Republican illusion of supporting the troops is super fical.

Well, they support militarism. Since the military has now made one tiny step away from the image of unthinking kill-everything Rambo, they're getting mad.

[Neutraligon]

Valid, my point is more just pointing out the Republican illusion of supporting the troops is super fical.

I read that as ‘super fecal’, and now I can’t read it as anything else.

huh I read that as super fiscal.

[Genivaria]

Valid, my point is more just pointing out the Republican illusion of supporting the troops is super fical.

I read that as ‘super fecal’, and now I can’t read it as anything else.

Mandatory

[Kowani]

White House informing both Congress and the Afghan government that it will relocate thousands of Afghan citizens – 20,000 to 100,000 – who worked for the US government before the official exit date of US troops on 9/11. It's not clear where they go initially, though there's talk of Guam

[North Washington Republic]

"Far-left Marxist racist ideology"

Jesus Christ. These people are making word salads again. And worst-

"We are sending our tax dollars to this military in an attempt to week out so-called 'extremists,'" Ingraham said, saying these "extremists" are just "conservative evangelicals" and not, as the Pentagon contends, white nationalist militants.

Clearly her mindset is somewhere else too...

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

I think that the hard left and the hard right hating on the military just proves the horseshoe theory to be correct.

[Genivaria]

White House informing both Congress and the Afghan government that it will relocate thousands of Afghan citizens – 20,000 to 100,000 – who worked for the US government before the official exit date of US troops on 9/11. It's not clear where they go initially, though there's talk of Guam

...dare I ask why Guam?

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

White House informing both Congress and the Afghan government that it will relocate thousands of Afghan citizens – 20,000 to 100,000 – who worked for the US government before the official exit date of US troops on 9/11. It's not clear where they go initially, though there's talk of Guam

...dare I ask why Guam?

It’s not OFFICIALLY the US, but is close enough for government work?

[Fatimida]

The population of Guam is around 160,000.
Even 20,000 is ALOT of people to introduce to an already strained area lol

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

I don't really mind it when the Republicans want to break up Big Tech because of muh cEnSorsHiP, and if they wanna defund the military because it's too woke, fine by me. Right ideas, wrong reasons.

I think that the hard left and the hard right hating on the military just proves the horseshoe theory to be correct.

No, no, no. This relies on muddling rhetorical terms. Leftists are usually against militarism. Rightists are for militarism. As I noted, in this case, the military is taking a step away from militarism. So the right is mad. This would be like if a fascist complained that the state is too weak right now and you said: "aha! anarchism=fascism b/c you both don't like how the state is currently constituted!"

[North Washington Republic]

I think that the hard left and the hard right hating on the military just proves the horseshoe theory to be correct.

No, no, no. This relies on muddling rhetorical terms. Leftists are usually against militarism. Rightists are for militarism. As I noted, in this case, the military is taking a step away from militarism. So the right is mad. This would be like if a fascist complained that the state is too weak right now and you said: "aha! anarchism=fascism b/c you both don't like how the state is currently constituted!"

I’m aware of that, but right-wing populism is currently the dominant ideology in the American right wing. They’re are grouping military leadership in their groups of what they call “elites”. The reason why Laura and other right-wingers are pissed at the military because they aren’t supporting their coup. I remember General Milley saying that military takes an oath to the Constitution, and not to a head of state/government. This was basically him saying “The military is going to help you with this coup.”

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

No, no, no. This relies on muddling rhetorical terms. Leftists are usually against militarism. Rightists are for militarism. As I noted, in this case, the military is taking a step away from militarism. So the right is mad. This would be like if a fascist complained that the state is too weak right now and you said: "aha! anarchism=fascism b/c you both don't like how the state is currently constituted!"

I’m aware of that, but right-wing populism is currently the dominant ideology in the American right wing. They’re are grouping military leadership in their groups of what they call “elites”. The reason why Laura and other right-wingers are pissed at the military because they aren’t supporting their coup. I remember General Milley saying that military takes an oath to the Constitution, and not to a head of state/government. This was basically him saying “The military is going to help you with this coup.”

But from a theoretical standpoint, do they support a strong military? Yes, if maybe not the one currently constituted.

But if you're going to invoke horseshoe theory just because both the left and right are dis-satisfied with things as they are, albeit in different ways, then definitionally, I suppose that you're right.

[North Washington Republic]

I’m aware of that, but right-wing populism is currently the dominant ideology in the American right wing. They’re are grouping military leadership in their groups of what they call “elites”. The reason why Laura and other right-wingers are pissed at the military because they aren’t supporting their coup. I remember General Milley saying that military takes an oath to the Constitution, and not to a head of state/government. This was basically him saying “The military is going to help you with this coup.”

But from a theoretical standpoint, do they support a strong military? Yes, if maybe not the one currently constituted.

But if you're going to invoke horseshoe theory just because both the left and right are dis-satisfied with things as they are, albeit in different ways, then definitionally, I suppose that you're right.

Do they support a strong military? I don’t believe they currently do. The right-wing America have shifted to being paleoconservative, meaning they support having a smaller military and less interventionism.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

But from a theoretical standpoint, do they support a strong military? Yes, if maybe not the one currently constituted.

But if you're going to invoke horseshoe theory just because both the left and right are dis-satisfied with things as they are, albeit in different ways, then definitionally, I suppose that you're right.

Do they support a strong military? I don’t believe they currently do. The right-wing America have shifted to being paleoconservative, meaning they support having a smaller military and less interventionism.

Paleoconservative? Trumpists are by no means libertarian. In any case, interventionism is not the same as supporting a military for reasons of national prestige.

[North Washington Republic]

Do they support a strong military? I don’t believe they currently do. The right-wing America have shifted to being paleoconservative, meaning they support having a smaller military and less interventionism.

Paleoconservative? Trumpists are by no means libertarian. In any case, interventionism is not the same as supporting a military for reasons of national prestige.

Paleoconservatives are NOT libertarians. The modern American right-wing takes it one step further than non-interventionism. As I said before, they hate the military for abiding by the constitution and not being loyal to Donald Trump. Many Trumpists actually thought that the military was going to side with them for their coup attempt.