American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Then they aren't leftists.

They are American leftists. The left has lost it's way and has completely forgotten about the working class and instead ponder to identity politics, political correctness, working in tandem with the American center-right on mass surveillance and oppression, and only making token promises on actual reform. The only people in American politics that care about the working class are the far-left and the libertarians, and only the latter have any influence in American politics

Libertarians 100% do not care about the working class. Holding strongly to lib-right economics precludes that possibility entirely.

[Dillemba]

They are American leftists. The left has lost it's way and has completely forgotten about the working class and instead ponder to identity politics, political correctness, working in tandem with the American center-right on mass surveillance and oppression, and only making token promises on actual reform. The only people in American politics that care about the working class are the far-left and the libertarians, and only the latter have any influence in American politics

Leftist!=Progressives

Progressives? No way. I never trust a progressive. They want to replace an evil power with another evil power.

[Vassenor]

Leftist!=Progressives

Progressives? No way. I never trust a progressive. They want to replace an evil power with another evil power.

And which evil power would that be? With evidence please.

[Dillemba]

They are American leftists. The left has lost it's way and has completely forgotten about the working class and instead ponder to identity politics, political correctness, working in tandem with the American center-right on mass surveillance and oppression, and only making token promises on actual reform. The only people in American politics that care about the working class are the far-left and the libertarians, and only the latter have any influence in American politics

Libertarians 100% do not care about the working class. Holding strongly to lib-right economics precludes that possibility entirely.

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

[San Lumen]

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[Washington Resistance Army]

Libertarians 100% do not care about the working class. Holding strongly to lib-right economics precludes that possibility entirely.

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

Because the Libertarian Party is a third party and thus has zero impact on the way the nation is run?

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

Leftist!=Progressives

Progressives? No way. I never trust a progressive. They want to replace an evil power with another evil power.

!= means does not equal.

[Genivaria]

those aren't mutually exclusive

It's not real populism though. It's just a distraction to rally the ultrapartisan culture warriors.

That's still populism.
Populism isn't an ideology, it's a political tactic.

[Dillemba]

Progressives? No way. I never trust a progressive. They want to replace an evil power with another evil power.

And which evil power would that be? With evidence please.

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

[Kowani]

Libertarians 100% do not care about the working class. Holding strongly to lib-right economics precludes that possibility entirely.

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

because libertarians endorse things like selling heroin to children and the repeal of the civil rights act lmao

[Dillemba]

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

Because the Libertarian Party is a third party and thus has zero impact on the way the nation is run?

The donor class can change that. The donor class has all the impact on American campaigning. The people do not have control. The wealthy do.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

because libertarians endorse things like selling heroin to children and the repeal of the civil rights act lmao

Tbf that is exceptionally based, you have to respect it even if it's nuts.

[Vassenor]

And which evil power would that be? With evidence please.

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

Because corporations never kill people, right?

Put the tin foil down.

[Genivaria]

And which evil power would that be? With evidence please.

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

Why would one need to replace the other when they are already allies against the working class?

[Dillemba]

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

Because corporations never kill people, right?

Put the tin foil down.

A major source of corporate power comes from the government. If the government is weakened, corporations will similarly be weakened.

[The Black Forrest]

Because corporations never kill people, right?

Put the tin foil down.

A major source of corporate power comes from the government. If the government is weakened, corporations will similarly be weakened.

If you eliminate the government, how do you punish corporations?

[Esthe]

And which evil power would that be? With evidence please.

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

Ya got a reliable source for that?

[Kowani]

Because the Libertarian Party is a third party and thus has zero impact on the way the nation is run?

The donor class can change that. The donor class has all the impact on American campaigning. The people do not have control. The wealthy do.

there is unserious political analysis and then there is this
if the corporate class wanted the libertarians to become a massive political party, it would require a multi-generation long effort to change the political preferences of right-wing americans to stop caring so much about race-a thing which would destroy the very profitable outrage industry

because libertarians endorse things like selling heroin to children and the repeal of the civil rights act lmao

Tbf that is exceptionally based, you have to respect it even if it's nuts.

points for standing by their beliefs, i suppose...

[Vassenor]

Also if governments spying on citizens is bad, what does that make Google and Facebook hoovering up every byte of your personal data they can get their hands on to sell advertisements with?

[Rusozak]

If that is the case, then why does the donor class ignore libertarianism and instead pave to center-right, centrist, and center-left political parties?

because libertarians endorse things like selling heroin to children and the repeal of the civil rights act lmao

They also hate "wash your hands" signs.

[Dillemba]

A major source of corporate power comes from the government. If the government is weakened, corporations will similarly be weakened.

If you eliminate the government, how do you punish corporations?

I don't call for government elimination, I call for government weakness in the form of lessening taxation and repealing laws that are oppressive in nature and serve to benefit corporations. If the government has less money, that means corporations will lose a major form of help in government bailouts. If we lessen taxation for poor and middle class, this means they gain more money instead of the wealthy class.

[The Black Forrest]

Also if governments spying on citizens is bad, what does that make Google and Facebook hoovering up every byte of your personal data they can get their hands on to sell advertisements with?

Free market you big silly.

[Kowani]

because libertarians endorse things like selling heroin to children and the repeal of the civil rights act lmao

They also hate "wash your hands" signs.

note to self: never hire a libertarian as a chef

If you eliminate the government, how do you punish corporations?

I don't call for government elimination, I call for government weakness in the form of lessening taxation and repealing laws that are oppressive in nature and serve to benefit corporations. If the government has less money, that means corporations will lose a major form of help in government bailouts. If we lessen taxation for poor and middle class, this means they gain more money instead of the wealthy class.

>taxation at historic lows
"you know what we need? less taxation!"
none of this does what you think it does anyway but this is just unhinged

[Dillemba]

Replace corporations with government. And the government is undoubtedly evil. They bomb innocent Middle Eastern civilians, mass-spy on American citizens, and have done vile things in the past. Why you trust the government to help you is beyond me, given that the government is full of power politicians fighting for the donor class and nobody else

Ya got a reliable source for that?

Bombing Middle Eastern civilians: war on Syria, war on Iraq, etc.

Mass surveillance: The NSA, the PATRIOT Act, that one law that authorizes government to see your text messages, etc.

Vile things in the past: Drugs, MKULTRA, Waco.

Power politicians fighting for the donor class: The donor class provides politicians with money for campaigning in exchange for them doing what the donor class wants. If they lose funding, they can't campaign and thus lose the seat.

[Dillemba]

Also if governments spying on citizens is bad, what does that make Google and Facebook hoovering up every byte of your personal data they can get their hands on to sell advertisements with?

Ultimately this is one of the few things I have an anti-libertarian stance on. This should not be allowed and should be punished harshly.