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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
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Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Postby Bahia Roja » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:18 am

Austreylia wrote:It really just happened to a few dozen households in one county.


Doesn't make it less illegal, buddy.
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Postby Kilobugya » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:42 am

Austreylia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What does it matter how many houses this occurred at?

Because the headline is quite misleading. It acts as if there are roving platoons of trump supporters intimidating people across the state.

It really just happened to a few dozen households in one county.


But, Your Honor, you make it sounds like I murdered people all across the state, while I just killed a few dozen pople in only one county.

Well, sure, that the illegal harassment is (so far ?) localized instead of being widespread is some amount of relief, but it doesn't change how illegal nor how wrong the mere existence of it is.
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:46 am

Kilobugya wrote:But, Your Honor, you make it sounds like I murdered people all across the state, while I just killed a few dozen pople in only one county.

Knocking on peoples doors isn't equivalent to murder.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:48 am

Austreylia wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:But, Your Honor, you make it sounds like I murdered people all across the state, while I just killed a few dozen pople in only one county.

Knocking on peoples doors isn't equivalent to murder.

Maybe it’s just me but voter intimidation doesn’t become better just because it only occurred a few times.
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Postby Austreylia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:50 am

Heloin wrote:Maybe it’s just me but voter intimidation doesn’t become better just because it only occurred a few times.

I didn't say it was better.

I said it wasn't as sensational and code-red as the article was making it out to be.
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Postby Kilobugya » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:51 am

Austreylia wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:But, Your Honor, you make it sounds like I murdered people all across the state, while I just killed a few dozen pople in only one county.

Knocking on peoples doors isn't equivalent to murder.


My point wasn't pretending it were equivalent. But that prentending that an openly harmful, illegal behavior doesn't matter much because it happened only a dozen of times is silly and won't hold in a court of law.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:Ah, my mistake. Generally when it's some tabloid like Rawstory I assume it's mostly falsehoods mixed in with one or two partial truths for flavor.

He did admit his mistake. Seems that he had more trouble with the source than the story

Which is some lazy bullshit and should be mocked mercilessly.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:25 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:
He did admit his mistake. Seems that he had more trouble with the source than the story

Which is some lazy bullshit and should be mocked mercilessly.


Indeed. Especially when they look at who posted the story and don’t check where they sourced it from. There are people who will tell you the AP is a secret leftist organization. I am related to one :(
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm

Justice Department tells Treasury Department to turn Trump's tax returns over to Congress
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Postby Fauzjhia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:40 pm

I am certain ils old already

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:22 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5656 ... iction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:43 pm

Weak, sad and pathetic for the Dems to do nothing until the deadline is looming and they can't do anything. So much for "unity"
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

Everyone buckle up - housing market is about to get interesting.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

not enough profanity in the english language
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Postby Loeje » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

That's going to be terrible.

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

not enough profanity in the english language

Maybe if you add other languages?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:53 pm

https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/07/29 ... -is-legal/

Judge says Alaska’s new ranked-choice voting system is legal
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

not enough profanity in the english language


What would you bother? Have not democrats been watered down republicans?
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

Everyone buckle up - housing market is about to get interesting.

What companies are worth investing in?
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:07 pm

Loeje wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

That's going to be terrible.

Kowani wrote:not enough profanity in the english language

Maybe if you add other languages?

that'd work

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:not enough profanity in the english language


What would you bother? Have not democrats been watered down republicans?

...what?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Loeje wrote:That's going to be terrible.


Maybe if you add other languages?

that'd work

The Black Forrest wrote:
What would you bother? Have not democrats been watered down republicans?

...what?


Push comes to shove? Democrats are simply watered down republicans.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:10 pm

Blackrock might be a good company to invest in because they're buying houses in the U.S at a pretty rapid pace.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:13 pm

Sundiata wrote:Blackrock might be a good company to invest in because they're buying houses in the U.S at a pretty rapid pace.


Ahh the good old days. Rich and poor. Filthy middle class!
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:14 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:that'd work


...what?


Push comes to shove? Democrats are simply watered down republicans.

i mean sure but that does not preclude me from being upset about it
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:15 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Push comes to shove? Democrats are simply watered down republicans.

i mean sure but that does not preclude me from being upset about it


True. I used to be that way and then found I would be upset over and over and over and over......
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Blackrock might be a good company to invest in because they're buying houses in the U.S at a pretty rapid pace.


Ahh the good old days. Rich and poor. Filthy middle class!

It's just a wave; it's not going to last.
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