American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I have a question for Americans on collectivist ideas. Particularly the one on society and the good of the community as a whole, not by individual. Is that an idea that is likely to be adopted in the US or is that very unlikely?

Not as long as there are Americans who will refuse to wear face masks during a global resparatory disease pandemic and Republican politicians who will exploit them to get and keep political power.

That’s an infuriating part of it all. Politicians who exploit people’s ignorance and trust of them to keep in power. Of course, that’s what politics tends to be all around the world.

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I'm going to repeat my point that despite all the legitimate claims of libel on behalf of the right-wing media, Dominion is an evil sounding name and they're definitely at least 40% at fault for choosing an evil sounding name for their voting machine corporation. Like dude, you were the bad guys in DS9.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... s-governor

Former Massachusetts state Rep. Geoff Diehl (R) announced he will run for Governor of Massachusetts. Incumbent Charlie Baker has not announced if he will seek a third term.

[Comerciante]

I'm going to repeat my point that despite all the legitimate claims of libel on behalf of the right-wing media, Dominion is an evil-sounding name and they're definitely at least 40% at fault for choosing an evil-sounding name for their voting machine corporation. Like dude, you were the bad guys in DS9.

Listen we can't hold it against them that they wanted to have a cool name, there are very few names in this world that are both cool and not evil sounding.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

I'm going to repeat my point that despite all the legitimate claims of libel on behalf of the right-wing media, Dominion is an evil-sounding name and they're definitely at least 40% at fault for choosing an evil-sounding name for their voting machine corporation. Like dude, you were the bad guys in DS9.

Listen we can't hold it against them that they wanted to have a cool name, there are very few names in this world that are both cool and not evil sounding.

Maybe something that could sound cool and be a sign of their dependability? How about... Reliant?

Oh wait... that's kind of worse.

[San Lumen]

https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/new ... 2405fffd19

Video shows Cleveland mayoral candidate Basheer Jones declaring, 'Women are not our leaders. ... We are their leaders!'

[HISPIDA]

https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/news/politics/elections/cleveland-mayoral-candidate-basheer-jones-women-not-our-leaders/95-965e4337-6c16-462b-8188-9c2405fffd19

Video shows Cleveland mayoral candidate Basheer Jones declaring, 'Women are not our leaders. ... We are their leaders!'

*sucks in teeth* Oooooooooooooh... yikes.

[Jeriga]

https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/news/politics/elections/cleveland-mayoral-candidate-basheer-jones-women-not-our-leaders/95-965e4337-6c16-462b-8188-9c2405fffd19

Video shows Cleveland mayoral candidate Basheer Jones declaring, 'Women are not our leaders. ... We are their leaders!'

Bet we will see a surge in his poll numbers now

[Kowani]

Ex-Massachusetts State Rep. Geoff Diehl (R) launches primary against Gov. Charlie Baker (R)

[Kowani]

Florida State Rep. Anthony Sabatini (R) calls for dual citizenship to be banned

[San Lumen]

Florida State Rep. Anthony Sabatini (R) calls for dual citizenship to be banned

Not going to happen as it would require a constitutional amendment.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

Florida State Rep. Anthony Sabatini (R) calls for dual citizenship to be banned

Not going to happen as it would require a constitutional amendment.

But hey, it resonates with his base... insofar as unreasonable bullshit seems to resonate a lot nowadays.

[Genivaria]

Democratic Challenger Marcus Flowers ejected from America First Rally after Marjorie Taylor Greene deemed him a 'threat'.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sea ... %20flowers
A deputy at her rally also threaten a reporter with arrest for asking non-approved questions.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marjorie-t ... -question/

[Sincluda]

Democratic Challenger Marcus Flowers ejected from America First Rally after Marjorie Taylor Greene deemed him a 'threat'.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sea ... %20flowers
A deputy at her rally also threaten a reporter with arrest for asking non-approved questions.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marjorie-t ... -question/

"Non-approved questions"
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Nouveau Yathrib]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/p ... ction.html

A review of the 2020 election, conducted by several prominent Democratic advocacy groups, has concluded that the party is at risk of losing ground with Black, Hispanic and Asian American voters unless it does a better job presenting an economic agenda and countering Republican efforts to spread misinformation and tie all Democratic candidates to the far left.

The 73-page report, obtained by The New York Times, was assembled at the behest of three major Democratic interest groups: Third Way, a centrist think tank, and the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, which promote Black and Hispanic candidates. It appears to be the most thorough act of self-criticism carried out by Democrats or Republicans after the last campaign.

The document is all the more striking because it is addressed to a victorious party: Despite their successes, Democrats had hoped to achieve more robust control of both chambers of Congress, rather than the ultra-precarious margins they enjoy.

Three prominent Democratic groups, Third Way, the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, conducted a review of the 2020 election.

READ DOCUMENT 73 PAGES

In part, the study found, Democrats fell short of their aspirations because many House and Senate candidates failed to match Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s support with voters of color who loathed Mr. Trump but distrusted the Democratic Party as a whole. Those constituencies included Hispanic voters in Florida and Texas, Vietnamese American and Filipino American voters in California, and Black voters in North Carolina.

Overall, the report warns, Democrats in 2020 lacked a core argument about the economy and recovering from the coronavirus pandemic — one that might have helped candidates repel Republican claims that they wanted to “keep the economy shut down,” or worse. The party “leaned too heavily on ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric,” the report concludes.

[Genivaria]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/politics/democrats-2020-election.html

A review of the 2020 election, conducted by several prominent Democratic advocacy groups, has concluded that the party is at risk of losing ground with Black, Hispanic and Asian American voters unless it does a better job presenting an economic agenda and countering Republican efforts to spread misinformation and tie all Democratic candidates to the far left.

The 73-page report, obtained by The New York Times, was assembled at the behest of three major Democratic interest groups: Third Way, a centrist think tank, and the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, which promote Black and Hispanic candidates. It appears to be the most thorough act of self-criticism carried out by Democrats or Republicans after the last campaign.

The document is all the more striking because it is addressed to a victorious party: Despite their successes, Democrats had hoped to achieve more robust control of both chambers of Congress, rather than the ultra-precarious margins they enjoy.

Three prominent Democratic groups, Third Way, the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, conducted a review of the 2020 election.

READ DOCUMENT 73 PAGES

In part, the study found, Democrats fell short of their aspirations because many House and Senate candidates failed to match Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s support with voters of color who loathed Mr. Trump but distrusted the Democratic Party as a whole. Those constituencies included Hispanic voters in Florida and Texas, Vietnamese American and Filipino American voters in California, and Black voters in North Carolina.

Overall, the report warns, Democrats in 2020 lacked a core argument about the economy and recovering from the coronavirus pandemic — one that might have helped candidates repel Republican claims that they wanted to “keep the economy shut down,” or worse. The party “leaned too heavily on ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric,” the report concludes.

Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

[Jeriga]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/politics/democrats-2020-election.html

A review of the 2020 election, conducted by several prominent Democratic advocacy groups, has concluded that the party is at risk of losing ground with Black, Hispanic and Asian American voters unless it does a better job presenting an economic agenda and countering Republican efforts to spread misinformation and tie all Democratic candidates to the far left.

The 73-page report, obtained by The New York Times, was assembled at the behest of three major Democratic interest groups: Third Way, a centrist think tank, and the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, which promote Black and Hispanic candidates. It appears to be the most thorough act of self-criticism carried out by Democrats or Republicans after the last campaign.

The document is all the more striking because it is addressed to a victorious party: Despite their successes, Democrats had hoped to achieve more robust control of both chambers of Congress, rather than the ultra-precarious margins they enjoy.

Three prominent Democratic groups, Third Way, the Collective PAC and the Latino Victory Fund, conducted a review of the 2020 election.

READ DOCUMENT 73 PAGES

In part, the study found, Democrats fell short of their aspirations because many House and Senate candidates failed to match Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s support with voters of color who loathed Mr. Trump but distrusted the Democratic Party as a whole. Those constituencies included Hispanic voters in Florida and Texas, Vietnamese American and Filipino American voters in California, and Black voters in North Carolina.

Overall, the report warns, Democrats in 2020 lacked a core argument about the economy and recovering from the coronavirus pandemic — one that might have helped candidates repel Republican claims that they wanted to “keep the economy shut down,” or worse. The party “leaned too heavily on ‘anti-Trump’ rhetoric,” the report concludes.

Yeah that's accurate. I'm a far lefty, but the democratic party can't survive without a big tent of the neoliberals. It sucks at actually following through on promises. They don't fight for anything and they marginalize or push out young people of color in their party. For instance, no democratic challenger has a chance at beating my rep, Steve Cohen. He's an old ass white guy that represents an area with 76 percent black. He's more concerned about how FedEx feels than his constituents. I wonder if he's ever been in the impoverished areas of Memphis when he talks about poverty in his news letters.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/politics/democrats-2020-election.html

Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

Most of this isn't Biden's fault- and I'm saying this as someone who opposed Biden during the 2020 primaries. Biden's anti-Trump campaign rhetoric wasn't going to sway the Latinos, Asians, and younger voters who were turned off of the Dem establishment and/or were fans of his strongman act.

A lot of it is structural- the Dems just don't have strong enough majorities in either chamber of Congress to get all the things they'd like to accomplish done.

[New haven america]

I have a question for Americans on collectivist ideas. Particularly the one on society and the good of the community as a whole, not by individual. Is that an idea that is likely to be adopted in the US or is that very unlikely?

Well that depends, are we going lite collectivism like Europe where people are just more mindful of each other and willing to or going all in like Japan and Korea where you can't even blow your nose without everyone in a 5 mile radius giving you the stink eye? (Blowing your nose is super rude and impolite over there)

I'd argue that most urban areas and liberal/progressives already subscribe to the former and have for a while now, it's the more rural and conservative areas that are still the hold outs.

[New haven america]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/politics/democrats-2020-election.html

Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

Except, you know, 3/5 of those door are things that have already happened or are being worked on as we speak.

[Jeriga]

Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

Except, you know, 3/5 of those door are things that have already happened or are being worked on as we speak.

It's only been 6 months too lol

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Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

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Except, you know, 3/5 of those door are things that have already happened or are being worked on as we speak.

Which of those things happened? Which are being worked on?

Not the $2000 checks. People aren't happy about that grift, "you got $1400 and then you got $600." The Dems ran on "two thousand dollar checks", those were the words they use. People were given the impression that they were going to get a two thousand dollar check independent of what they got under Trump.

How about the kids in cages, is that being "worked on"? You don't work on it, you do it. If their parents are in custody, you release them and release the kid immediately. If they can't find the parents, Jesus, how about foster parents? How about a group home at least? It's not like there's nowhere better to house them than a prison. Whenever a citizen's child loses their parents, they find a way to take care of the kid without putting them in a cage.

This stuff isn't hard. The first four of six could be done in literally one day.

[The Alma Mater]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/politics/democrats-2020-election.html

Been saying from the beginning that Biden's failure to act on campaign promises is going to cost the Dems.

Why ? Trump did not keep his promises either and his base does not care. Why would Biden be treated differently ?

[Vassenor]

Except, you know, 3/5 of those door are things that have already happened or are being worked on as we speak.

Which of those things happened? Which are being worked on?

Not the $2000 checks. People aren't happy about that grift, "you got $1400 and then you got $600." The Dems ran on "two thousand dollar checks", those were the words they use. People were given the impression that they were going to get a two thousand dollar check independent of what they got under Trump.

How about the kids in cages, is that being "worked on"? You don't work on it, you do it. If their parents are in custody, you release them and release the kid immediately. If they can't find the parents, Jesus, how about foster parents? How about a group home at least? It's not like there's nowhere better to house them than a prison. Whenever a citizen's child loses their parents, they find a way to take care of the kid without putting them in a cage.

This stuff isn't hard. The first four of six could be done in literally one day.

And thus it will never be done because Biden didn't wave a magic wand and fix it all as soon as he sat down at the Resolute Desk.

[Punished UMN]

Which of those things happened? Which are being worked on?

Not the $2000 checks. People aren't happy about that grift, "you got $1400 and then you got $600." The Dems ran on "two thousand dollar checks", those were the words they use. People were given the impression that they were going to get a two thousand dollar check independent of what they got under Trump.

How about the kids in cages, is that being "worked on"? You don't work on it, you do it. If their parents are in custody, you release them and release the kid immediately. If they can't find the parents, Jesus, how about foster parents? How about a group home at least? It's not like there's nowhere better to house them than a prison. Whenever a citizen's child loses their parents, they find a way to take care of the kid without putting them in a cage.

This stuff isn't hard. The first four of six could be done in literally one day.

And thus it will never be done because Biden didn't wave a magic wand and fix it all as soon as he sat down at the Resolute Desk.

What exactly would he be waiting for on the kids in cages?