The Dark Witch: An Issue Regarding Sentencing

[The Free Joy State]

Very reluctantly. You say she was sullen and it took her may hours: This does not suggest any remorse. Lack of remorse is an aggravating factor when calculating charges.

It also was unnecessary busywork as anyone who invades a school or attacks a child should be turned straight over to the police -- no exceptions -- and the full-force of the law be brought down upon them (unless they are found to be legally incompetent, in which case they can be committed to a secure unit).

1,000 repetitions of a paragraph by hand using quill and parchment is going to take more than a whole evening (in fact, I'm not even sure it's physically possible). And I think anyone writing that out is not going to look too happy.

Have you ever done any lines in school? I think I was assigned 200 or something (and it was one sentence) and it still took tons of time.

My school didn't use lines. And, frankly, the effect of a (inappropriate for the gravity of the situation) punishment on the person (or witch, rather) who terrorises children is not a major issue for me.

[Infected Mushroom]

1,000 repetitions of a paragraph by hand using quill and parchment is going to take more than a whole evening (in fact, I'm not even sure it's physically possible). And I think anyone writing that out is not going to look too happy.

Have you ever done any lines in school? I think I was assigned 200 or something (and it was one sentence) and it still took tons of time.

My school didn't use lines. And, frankly, the effect of a (inappropriate for the gravity of the situation) punishment on the person (or witch, rather) who terrorises children is not a major issue for me.

but you're using it to make an inference with respect to your final assessment of the exact sentencing years; all I'm saying is that people doing lines generally don't look very happy and it seems a bit too much to infer that it shows lack of remorse or any other qualities from that

[The Free Joy State]

My school didn't use lines. And, frankly, the effect of a (inappropriate for the gravity of the situation) punishment on the person (or witch, rather) who terrorises children is not a major issue for me.

but you're using it to make an inference with respect to your final assessment of the exact sentencing years; all I'm saying is that people doing lines generally don't look very happy and it seems a bit too much to infer that it shows lack of remorse or any other qualities from that

Even excluding the lines, I would have come to the exact same conclusion regarding the sentence.

[Infected Mushroom]

but you're using it to make an inference with respect to your final assessment of the exact sentencing years; all I'm saying is that people doing lines generally don't look very happy and it seems a bit too much to infer that it shows lack of remorse or any other qualities from that

Even excluding the lines, I would have come to the exact same conclusion regarding the sentence.

So you're just going to import the UK penal code into the situation without any personal modifications?

You agree completely with the common law/statutory sentencing for the years?

[The Free Joy State]

Even excluding the lines, I would have come to the exact same conclusion regarding the sentence.

So you're just going to import the UK penal code into the situation without any personal modifications?

You agree completely with the common law/statutory sentencing for the years?

The sentence I gave differed from the UK sentences in several places. And, in practise, someone who traumatised and attacked children, could have probably got a much lighter sentence in the UK.

I gave her a more appropriate minimum for attacking a child.

[Infected Mushroom]

So you're just going to import the UK penal code into the situation without any personal modifications?

You agree completely with the common law/statutory sentencing for the years?

The sentence I gave differed from the UK sentences in several places. And, in practise, someone who traumatised and attacked children, could have probably got a much lighter sentence in the UK.

I gave her a more appropriate minimum for attacking a child.

And I understand that you factored in that no lasting damage was inflicted?

[Galloism]

The sentence I gave differed from the UK sentences in several places. And, in practise, someone who traumatised and attacked children, could have probably got a much lighter sentence in the UK.

I gave her a more appropriate minimum for attacking a child.

And I understand that you factored in that no lasting damage was inflicted?

Do they have a spell that acts like a neuralizer too?

[Infected Mushroom]

And I understand that you factored in that no lasting damage was inflicted?

Do they have a spell that acts like a neuralizer too?

I suppose so. Why? Would you use it? How?

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s very shocking to me that the death penalty leads the polls

[Galloism]

Do they have a spell that acts like a neuralizer too?

I suppose so. Why? Would you use it? How?

Well, the only way you're not going to have lasting trauma on some kids who got attacked by a deranged psychopath who held them prisoner and threatened to strip them of their powers is if you wipe their minds.

[Infected Mushroom]

I suppose so. Why? Would you use it? How?

Well, the only way you're not going to have lasting trauma on some kids who got attacked by a deranged psychopath who held them prisoner and threatened to strip them of their powers is if you wipe their minds.

Even if they get treated as heroes in the aftermath of the incident; and even with the children laughing at the witch by the end of the fight?

[Galloism]

Well, the only way you're not going to have lasting trauma on some kids who got attacked by a deranged psychopath who held them prisoner and threatened to strip them of their powers is if you wipe their minds.

Even if they get treated as heroes in the aftermath of the incident; and even with the children laughing at the witch by the end of the fight?

Yes.

[Infected Mushroom]

Even if they get treated as heroes in the aftermath of the incident; and even with the children laughing at the witch by the end of the fight?

Yes.

The way my 35 page version of this story goes is that the children are at first curious, and then switch back and forth between being scared and then laughing at the witch.

[Galloism]

Yes.

The way my 35 page version of this story goes is that the children are at first curious, and then switch back and forth between being scared and then laughing at the witch.

Well, clearly you aren't a child psychologist. Also you might have never met actual children.

[The Free Joy State]

The sentence I gave differed from the UK sentences in several places. And, in practise, someone who traumatised and attacked children, could have probably got a much lighter sentence in the UK.

I gave her a more appropriate minimum for attacking a child.

And I understand that you factored in that no lasting damage was inflicted?

No. I agree with Gallo that, emotionally, long-term (perhaps lifelong) damage will have been inflicted. She did not wrongfully imprison them for more than a few moments and was so incompetent that her attempted physical attacks backfired. That's why she only gets ten years.

Had she caused them an ounce of physical harm, she'd have got longer.

[Infected Mushroom]

The way my 35 page version of this story goes is that the children are at first curious, and then switch back and forth between being scared and then laughing at the witch.

Well, clearly you aren't a child psychologist. Also you might have never met actual children.

What about the self esteem boost from winning against the Dark Witch? Story has a happy ending for the kids.

Also, what’s the trauma potential for the witch?

[Galloism]

Well, clearly you aren't a child psychologist. Also you might have never met actual children.

What about the self esteem boost from winning against the Dark Witch? Story has a happy ending for the kids.

Given it was mostly luck there's not much self esteem potential there. However, even if there was, there was the trauma about literally being held prisoner and having the threat of their magic drained from them.

Also, what’s the trauma potential for the witch?

Fairly high, but as the perpetrator, there's less sympathy for it. She brought it on herself.

[The Holy Therns]

Well, clearly you aren't a child psychologist. Also you might have never met actual children.

What about the self esteem boost from winning against the Dark Witch? Story has a happy ending for the kids.

Also, what’s the trauma potential for the witch?

That's not how experiences work.

[Cameroi]

well that was a fun story, but we're all witches/magic users here, so that isn't even a factor.
what we're left with is a simple case trespassing, breaking and entering, with possible intent of robbery, and of course physical battery, even if by magical means.
so really a reasonable sentencing would be based on those actual crimes. i think intentional battery, by any means is the most serious, though it may have been a heat of the moment impulsive response to being accidentally struck, combined with the embarrassment of being caught in the act.

so i really think a year of community service to the academy, under the strict supervision of its administration, might be appropriate and meaningful.
you know, with the perp's powers suppressed most of the time for the duration, but allowed, again, only under strict supervision, to be employed in mostly janitorial service, but also possibly as a restrained assistant in one or two classrooms.

[Infected Mushroom]

What about the self esteem boost from winning against the Dark Witch? Story has a happy ending for the kids.

Also, what’s the trauma potential for the witch?

That's not how experiences work.

How does it work?

[Galloism]

well that was a fun story, but we're all witches/magic users here, so that isn't even a factor.
what we're left with is a simple case trespassing, breaking and entering, with possible intent of robbery, and of course physical battery, even if by magical means.
so really a reasonable sentencing would be based on those actual crimes. i think intentional battery, by any means is the most serious, though it may have been a heat of the moment impulsive response to being accidentally struck, combined with the embarrassment of being caught in the act.

so i really think a year of community service to the academy, under the strict supervision of its administration, might be appropriate and meaningful.
you know, with the perp's powers suppressed most of the time for the duration, but allowed, again, only under strict supervision, to be employed in mostly janitorial service, but also possibly as a restrained assistant in one or two classrooms.

I'm pretty sure that draining someone of their magical power forever and thus creating long lasting damage (with intent) would be aggravated battery at a minimum.

Akin to intending to maim someone.

[Infected Mushroom]

well that was a fun story, but we're all witches/magic users here, so that isn't even a factor.
what we're left with is a simple case trespassing, breaking and entering, with possible intent of robbery, and of course physical battery, even if by magical means.
so really a reasonable sentencing would be based on those actual crimes. i think intentional battery, by any means is the most serious, though it may have been a heat of the moment impulsive response to being accidentally struck, combined with the embarrassment of being caught in the act.

so i really think a year of community service to the academy, under the strict supervision of its administration, might be appropriate and meaningful.
you know, with the perp's powers suppressed most of the time for the duration, but allowed, again, only under strict supervision, to be employed in mostly janitorial service, but also possibly as a restrained assistant in one or two classrooms.

I'm pretty sure that draining someone of their magical power forever and thus creating long lasting damage (with intent) would be aggravated battery at a minimum.

Akin to intending to maim someone.

But the school ended up draining her magic instead

[Galloism]

I'm pretty sure that draining someone of their magical power forever and thus creating long lasting damage (with intent) would be aggravated battery at a minimum.

Akin to intending to maim someone.

But the school ended up draining her magic instead

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Infected Mushroom]

But the school ended up draining her magic instead

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Are you saying that the school should also be sued then?

[The Holy Therns]

That's not how experiences work.

How does it work?

If trauma happens but justice is served, that doesn't erase the experience of trauma in any conceivable way. If I'm terrorized by a terrible person but manage to turn the tables at the end, do you think I will simply forget that terror?