Who is America's greatest president?

[The Reformed American Republic]

Lincoln. FDR is quite overrated.

Pulling the US out of a depression is a big feat. I'd hardly say he's overrated.

Libertarians and ultra-free marketers view FDR as a commie, that's why.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pulling the US out of a depression is a big feat. I'd hardly say he's overrated.

Libertarians and ultra-free marketers view FDR as a commie, that's why.

tfw you spend your entire presidency denouncing and combatting the far left and extremists in general only for future generations to call you a pinko loving commie

FDR must be rolling in his grave.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Libertarians and ultra-free marketers view FDR as a commie, that's why.

tfw you spend your entire presidency denouncing and combatting the far left and extremists in general only for future generations to call you a pinko loving commie

FDR must be rolling in his grave.

We need a new FDR. Maybe not as socially progressive as most modern Dems, but someone economically forward thinking.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

tfw you spend your entire presidency denouncing and combatting the far left and extremists in general only for future generations to call you a pinko loving commie

FDR must be rolling in his grave.

We need a new FDR. Maybe not as socially progressive as most modern Dems, but someone economically forward thinking.

We need a person who is pro working class but also not preachy. The issue with alot of woke types is that they feel this constant need to inject their interpretation of the world into everything.

[Necroghastia]

tfw you spend your entire presidency denouncing and combatting the far left and extremists in general only for future generations to call you a pinko loving commie

FDR must be rolling in his grave.

We need a new FDR. Maybe not as socially progressive as most modern Dems, but someone economically forward thinking.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, left-leaning economic policies need a strong foundation of socially progressive ideals to make sense in the first place, let alone work in practice.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

We need a new FDR. Maybe not as socially progressive as most modern Dems, but someone economically forward thinking.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, left-leaning economic policies need a strong foundation of socially progressive ideals to make sense in the first place, let alone work in practice.

I guess it depends on how you define socially leftwing. I'm anti racist and anti sexist, but at the same time I'm not calling for them to decolonize math.

[Vassenor]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, left-leaning economic policies need a strong foundation of socially progressive ideals to make sense in the first place, let alone work in practice.

I guess it depends on how you define socially leftwing. I'm anti racist and anti sexist, but at the same time I'm not calling for them to decolonize math.

I thought that was a parody of the "decolonise how we teach history" thing.

[Necroghastia]

I guess it depends on how you define socially leftwing. I'm anti racist and anti sexist, but at the same time I'm not calling for them to decolonize math.

I thought that was a parody of the "decolonise how we teach history" thing.

Yeah, I've never actually heard that outside of conservatives attempting to be funny/outrage monger.

key word being attempting

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I thought that was a parody of the "decolonise how we teach history" thing.

Yeah, I've never actually heard that outside of conservatives attempting to be funny/outrage monger.

key word being attempting

I heard it was an actual thing. I didn't read up on it because I don't have time to read everything there is, but I do know someone did travel to Russia to give a seminar on white privilege.

Yeah, I'm not that wacky. I'm sure they'd say I'm not far enough left on social issues but they're trying to apply our racial history to a foreign country.

[The Reformed American Republic]

We need a new FDR. Maybe not as socially progressive as most modern Dems, but someone economically forward thinking.

We need a person who is pro working class but also not preachy. The issue with alot of woke types is that they feel this constant need to inject their interpretation of the world into everything.

Exactly. I would vote for you for example.

[Lamenia]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

[The Reformed American Republic]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

I agree.

[Herador]

-snip-.

I think what I posted was less about the impossibility of averting or softening the Great Depression, and more that it's hard to blame FDR (which I think was happening in a separate post?) for the economic state of the US and it's impact on foreign policy. I was in a bad state when I posted it though, so who the hell even knows what I was trying to write.

Your points are valid though.

[Just-An-Illusion]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

To be fair FDR did have help from the British and the Soviets. So I wouldn't give him all the credit, but yes he was very important for the war.

[Herador]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

To be fair FDR did have help from the British and the Soviets. So I wouldn't give him all the credit, but yes he was very important for the war.

You can make a point that he and America gave as much as they got with Lend-lease.

[-Ra-]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

FDR did not preside over the establishment of the United Nations. Truman did. He signed the organisation's charter. He also oversaw the establishment of NATO and the World Bank and set the scene for the post-war liberal order.

[The Archregimancy]

FDR won the largest war in human history

Without in any way underplaying the vital contribution of the United States to the Allied victory in the Second World War, or Roosevelt's successful leadership of the United States for the majority of his country's involvement in that war, the Soviet Union and the constituent components of what was then still the British Empire - at the very least - would likely be surprised by the implication that FDR won the war singlehandedly.

[Countesia]

Not a single president, past, future or present, will ever hold a candle to President Thomas J. Whitmore.

I will not elaborate on this.

[The Archregimancy]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

FDR did not preside over the establishment of the United Nations. Truman did. He signed the organisation's charter.

In slight fairness, however, there's good reason to give Roosevelt a strong share of the credit for the formation of the immediate precursor of the modern United Nations; especially since it also used the name United Nations.

Yes, the organisation founded via the 1945 adoption of the UN Charter is de jure legally distinct, but it's clearly the direct lineal descendant of the 1942 Declaration of United Nations. The participants in the 1945 San Francisco Conference were (mostly) the nations that had signed the Declaration of United Nations between 1942 and the end of the war; and Roosevelt was supposed to host the 1945 conference, but died two weeks before it was convened.

Whether that's what Lamenia was referring to or not, or whether he was aware of the distinction between the two, is a separate issue.

[Jabberwocky]

Richard Nixon.

No, I will not elaborate

THEY CAN'T LICK OUR DICK!

(Yes, this was an actual Nixon campaign slogan.)

There was also the unofficial Don't Change Dicks in the Middle of a Screw.

[Rusozak]

FDR did not preside over the establishment of the United Nations. Truman did. He signed the organisation's charter.

In slight fairness, however, there's good reason to give Roosevelt a strong share of the credit for the formation of the immediate precursor of the modern United Nations; especially since it also used the name United Nations.

Yes, the organisation founded via the 1945 adoption of the UN Charter is de jure legally distinct, but it's clearly the direct lineal descendant of the 1942 Declaration of United Nations. The participants in the 1945 San Francisco Conference were (mostly) the nations that had signed the Declaration of United Nations between 1942 and the end of the war; and Roosevelt was supposed to host the 1945 conference, but died two weeks before it was convened.

Whether that's what Lamenia was referring to or not, or whether he was aware of the distinction between the two, is a separate issue.

And even so, it's hardly to a single person's credit. Many nations were involved in the formation of the UN, and America wasn't even involved in the initial talks that eventually led to the 1942 declaration. And if you consider the League of Nations a spiritual predecessor to the UN that's opening up a whole other argument that goes back to Woodrow Wilson;.

[Closnia]

the one from virginia

[LibRight Libertarianism]

Lincoln. FDR is quite overrated.

Pulling the US out of a depression is a big feat. I'd hardly say he's overrated.

Yeah, no. The only thing he might have done was prolong the depression. The economy was saved by WW2.

[LibRight Libertarianism]

FDR won the largest war in human history, pulled us out of the largest economic depression ever, started the United Nations, and was very based with regards to the 4 freedoms and second bill of rights.

1. Fair but he had a LOT of help. Also, during the war he refused to save European Jews and put the Japanese in camps far from home.
2. WW2 saved the US economy
3. Wow the UN! Look where they are now.