Who is America's greatest president?

[Jolthig]

I'm just disappointed LBJ isn't on the poll. Apart from Vietnam he was great.

I dunno man, anyone who has people gathered outside their house chanting "Hey, Hey, (insert name here), how many kids have you killed today" might not nab the #1 spot. I get he did other stuff besides Vietnam, but Vietnam was kind of a big deal.

Foreign policy wise he was bad, but internally, I admire him for signing Medicare and Medicaid. Also the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

[Greater Cesnica]

None were great.

[Ifreann]

None were great.

Have you not seen Taft?

[Greater Cesnica]

None were great.

Have you not seen Taft?

He definitely could have done more for the Filipinos and Black Americans. Though, you're probably right in that he was better than most.

[Ifreann]

Have you not seen Taft?

He definitely could have done more for the Filipinos and Black Americans. Though, you're probably right in that he was better than most.

Great, meaning large or immense.

[503]

Regardless of if you wear red or blue or yellow, you cannot deny that his contributions are absolutely monumental.

So monumental that the majority of his changes were overturned by Biden within like the first week, and they're nothing but memories

Not really, Biden continued most of his policies.

[Grave_n_idle]

He definitely could have done more for the Filipinos and Black Americans. Though, you're probably right in that he was better than most.

Great, meaning large or immense.

We use it in the pejorative sense.

[Ifreann]

Great, meaning large or immense.

We use it in the pejorative sense.

Oh no, we love a thicc president.

[Ethel mermania]

He definitely could have done more for the Filipinos and Black Americans. Though, you're probably right in that he was better than most.

Great, meaning large or immense.

In addition to these “firsts,” Taft was also the largest president at 6 feet 2 inches and approximately 325 pounds. He apparently was very good natured about his size. Before becoming president, he once visited a small town on legal business. After his meeting, he learned that the next train would not arrive for several hours, although a fast train would run through in an hour. He therefore wired the railroad superintendent to ask if the fast train would stop for a “large party.” The superintendent agreed. When Taft boarded the train, he remarked to the bewildered conductor, “You can go ahead; I am the large party.”

[The Archregimancy]

Great, meaning large or immense.

In addition to these “firsts,” Taft was also the largest president at 6 feet 2 inches and approximately 325 pounds. He apparently was very good natured about his size. Before becoming president, he once visited a small town on legal business. After his meeting, he learned that the next train would not arrive for several hours, although a fast train would run through in an hour. He therefore wired the railroad superintendent to ask if the fast train would stop for a “large party.” The superintendent agreed. When Taft boarded the train, he remarked to the bewildered conductor, “You can go ahead; I am the large party.”

Taft was inarguably the greatest person to have held both the office of President of the United States and of Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

[HISPIDA]

In addition to these “firsts,” Taft was also the largest president at 6 feet 2 inches and approximately 325 pounds. He apparently was very good natured about his size. Before becoming president, he once visited a small town on legal business. After his meeting, he learned that the next train would not arrive for several hours, although a fast train would run through in an hour. He therefore wired the railroad superintendent to ask if the fast train would stop for a “large party.” The superintendent agreed. When Taft boarded the train, he remarked to the bewildered conductor, “You can go ahead; I am the large party.”

Taft was inarguably the greatest person to have held both the office of President of the United States and of Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

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[Ethel mermania]

In addition to these “firsts,” Taft was also the largest president at 6 feet 2 inches and approximately 325 pounds. He apparently was very good natured about his size. Before becoming president, he once visited a small town on legal business. After his meeting, he learned that the next train would not arrive for several hours, although a fast train would run through in an hour. He therefore wired the railroad superintendent to ask if the fast train would stop for a “large party.” The superintendent agreed. When Taft boarded the train, he remarked to the bewildered conductor, “You can go ahead; I am the large party.”

Taft was inarguably the greatest person to have held both the office of President of the United States and of Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

I would argue that he was the worst on the list as well.

[Sundiata]

I would say John F. Kennedy, for normalizing all forms of religious expression, encouraging community despite people's race, and taking bold action against communist actors.

[Greater Cesnica]

and taking bold action against communist actors.

Define communism without looking it up.

[Just-An-Illusion]

None were great.

What about Abe Lincoln?

[Sundiata]

and taking bold action against communist actors.

Define communism without looking it up.

A classless, moneyless, and stateless society, the end goal of socialism. I'm using what I know of the Marxian understanding to define it.

[Elwher]

I don't think the Confederates saw it that way. Maybe if Lincoln had carefully explained to them, that he was going to free the slaves whether they liked it or not, then they could have made some arrangement?

But no, slavery is evil and you should never negotiate with evil *yawn*

So you think that the method of war was wrong and Lincoln should have asked nicely?

Despite my love of small nations and the right of people to withdraw from agreements they no longer agree to, the people who didn't play nice were the Confederacy. Had they offered compensation for the Federal properties that were within their country instead of simply seizing them, it is possible that war could have been averted and a peaceful division of the country undertaken, leaving many more folk on both sides alive.

[Ethel mermania]

So you think that the method of war was wrong and Lincoln should have asked nicely?

Despite my love of small nations and the right of people to withdraw from agreements they no longer agree to, the people who didn't play nice were the Confederacy. Had they offered compensation for the Federal properties that were within their country instead of simply seizing them, it is possible that war could have been averted and a peaceful division of the country undertaken, leaving many more folk on both sides alive.

I dont think Lincoln would have accepted compensation for the forts and custom houses. He was holding onto to keep the American flag planted in the seceding states.

[Greater Cesnica]

Define communism without looking it up.

A classless, moneyless, and stateless society, the end goal of socialism. I'm using what I know of the Marxian understanding to define it.

And why do you oppose such a hypothetical society?

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

I feel like Sundiata’s argument would be stronger if he simply clarified that by communism he is referring to the Soviet style of socialism. Since the Soviet Union was, in fact, the big “communist threat” of Kennedy’s time and that is, in fact, what he was fighting.

I subscribe to linguistic descriptivism; when using a word in a particular incorrect way gets popular enough, maybe we should just accept it as an alternate but equally valid definition, folks.

[Greater Cesnica]

None were great.

What about Abe Lincoln?

Yes, he fought for the end of slavery (except for prisoners), but Lincoln was also a racist and a tyrant. His actions, such as the suspension of habeas corpus, may have been seen as justified at the time, but it has set a precedent for abuses down the line, such as those at CIA black sites and Guantanamo Bay among others.

[Ethel mermania]

What about Abe Lincoln?

Yes, he fought for the end of slavery (except for prisoners), but Lincoln was also a racist and a tyrant. His actions, such as the suspension of habeas corpus, may have been seen as justified at the time, but it has set a precedent for abuses down the line, such as those at CIA black sites and Guantanamo Bay among others.

Maryland seceeds the war is over. He wasn't a tyrant, he was an old whig.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

I subscribe to linguistic descriptivism; when using a word in a particular incorrect way gets popular enough, maybe we should just accept it as an alternate but equally valid definition, folks.

This is a special case isn't it, since shouldn't self-identified communists have a right to define the word? Of course, the meaning depends on how they describe it. In the same way, I would argue that in the West "Muslim" properly refers to an adherent of a certain set of religious traditions, in the same way as it does in the Middle East, not "scary terrorist guy," as much as certain types, who do not identify as Muslims, use it in the latter sense.

[503]

Not really, Biden continued most of his policies.

Executive orders are not all equally significant, nor do they have one-to-one correspondence with policies.

"Most of" is a meaningless quantification. You'd do better to name some policies, and to save time leave out the ones Trump continued from Obama.

Wall, border camps, increased police funding, foreign policy to name a few. Are you upset that Trump's legacy is lasting?

[Warriors of Truth]

Donald John Trump

Still legally the President of the United States.