by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:44 am
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by Resilient Acceleration » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:50 am
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by The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:31 am
by Picairn » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:15 am
Resilient Acceleration wrote:I would say that all pre-status quo legitimacies disappear after three generations. After which, the old population will all be already dead, the culture have changed, and both the "settlers" and "natives" will relate far more to the land, norms, and society they now inhabit than their "ancestral homeland".
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:20 am
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:23 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:I'm an immigrant and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavatory
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea
I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars
To be fair, I immigrated to Berlin.
Immigration is never the issue. It's "mass" immigration that is a political issue.
It shouldn't be though. People have moved to other place since forever.
by Ifreann » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:34 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:37 am
Ifreann wrote:Imagine concluding that immigration is bad because European colonists went around the world murdering and conquering people.
by Picairn » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:39 am
Ifreann wrote:Imagine concluding that immigration is bad because European colonists went around the world murdering and conquering people.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:44 am
by Ifreann » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:48 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The white people living in places like Australia or the US really can't go back anywhere at this point. Besides the fact many of them are a mix of European ethnicities and other ethnicities too, there's also the fact that they've lived their whole lives down under or in the land of the free, so i don't see why they should have to move.
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:56 am
Ethel mermania wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:I'm an immigrant and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavatory
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea
I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars
To be fair, I immigrated to Berlin.
Immigration is never the issue. It's "mass" immigration that is a political issue.
It shouldn't be though. People have moved to other place since forever.
Not really, for an American looking to move to Europe its a pain in the ass. You pretty much need to be sponsored by a job to have a chance at it, or a European spouse.
by Wizlandia » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:00 am
by The Holy Therns » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:01 am
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:23 am
Ifreann wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The white people living in places like Australia or the US really can't go back anywhere at this point. Besides the fact many of them are a mix of European ethnicities and other ethnicities too, there's also the fact that they've lived their whole lives down under or in the land of the free, so i don't see why they should have to move.
XKCD: "It's a bit silly to say that immigrants coming to America should learn English"
OP: "So you're saying that all white people should leave all former colonies?"
by Ifreann » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:38 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Ifreann wrote:XKCD: "It's a bit silly to say that immigrants coming to America should learn English"
OP: "So you're saying that all white people should leave all former colonies?"
I hate absolutist views like that. Why does it seem like nowadays when you try to be more inclusive, conservative types often misinterpret it as a literal war on white people or Christians or America?
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:45 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Not really, for an American looking to move to Europe its a pain in the ass. You pretty much need to be sponsored by a job to have a chance at it, or a European spouse.
It's similar the other way around? I need a work permit, and one of the main ways is being sponsored for one. At least, that's been my understanding after glossing over it a few years ago.
by Kilobugya » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:52 am
by Forsher » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:59 am
Ifreann wrote:Imagine concluding that immigration is bad because European colonists went around the world murdering and conquering people.
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:12 am
Ethel mermania wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:
It's similar the other way around? I need a work permit, and one of the main ways is being sponsored for one. At least, that's been my understanding after glossing over it a few years ago.
The us is pretty weird, an h1b visa is not really a path to citizenship, but it could be, ( I have 2 friends who went through that). To become a citizen Its either hit the lottery (literally), or marry an American.
It use to be if you had a promised job, they wouldn’t let you in because you were taking a job from an American; but if you didn't have one you could come in and get one immediately
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:13 am
Ifreann wrote:Imagine concluding that immigration is bad because European colonists went around the world murdering and conquering people.
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:16 am
The Blaatschapen wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:The us is pretty weird, an h1b visa is not really a path to citizenship, but it could be, ( I have 2 friends who went through that). To become a citizen Its either hit the lottery (literally), or marry an American.
It use to be if you had a promised job, they wouldn’t let you in because you were taking a job from an American; but if you didn't have one you could come in and get one immediately
Well, citizenship or merely a visa to live and work are two different things.
Over here, to become German,
I need sufficient language skills, be self sufficient (I think?)and be here for 8 years or more (7 if I married a German)
Of course, the dutch will revoke my citizenship if I do that,uunless I am married to a German.
by Ifreann » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:17 am
Forsher wrote:Ifreann wrote:Imagine concluding that immigration is bad because European colonists went around the world murdering and conquering people.
It's a coherent claim in NZ.
There's an immigration problem!
Send down some law.
There's still an immigration problem.
Create a legal regime.
The legal regime has a finance problem!
Steal land from the natives and sell it to the immigrants.
Literally nowhere else was colonised like this, though.
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:23 am
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
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