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Should drinking alcohol be legal?

Yes.
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No.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:03 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Whitemore wrote:Make it illegal and prevent it's production, it's a disease on Humanity and causes unneeded deaths.
Welcome to the Middle East. to the region of the world where all crimes where alcohol is prohibited.The prohibitionist mentality needs to break its chains. don't touch my cigarette, my marijuana, my alcohol


Alcohol isn't illegal in the whole middle east. I literally bought French liquor in Nableus one time.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:06 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Welcome to the Middle East. to the region of the world where all crimes where alcohol is prohibited.The prohibitionist mentality needs to break its chains. don't touch my cigarette, my marijuana, my alcohol


Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.


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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:06 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.


Speakeasy and can can girls says HI.


OP didn't say people can disobey my order of Prohibition, that's why I say yes.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:07 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.


Speakeasy and can can girls says HI.


If they banned alcohol, I would literally just buy a whole bunch for the thrill of it. If a law is stupid, it deserves to be broken.
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Postby Azalfia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:08 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Welcome to the Middle East. to the region of the world where all crimes where alcohol is prohibited.The prohibitionist mentality needs to break its chains. don't touch my cigarette, my marijuana, my alcohol


Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.

Yes, because preventing humans from indulging in one of it's greatest delights and doing a prohibition will obviously work! Let's do a War On Alcohol while we're at it!

No but seriously, war on prohibited substances seem to constantly fail. Maybe we should fight to reduce demand to a minimum, which would make alcohol less popular and less consumed?
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:09 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Welcome to the Middle East. to the region of the world where all crimes where alcohol is prohibited.The prohibitionist mentality needs to break its chains. don't touch my cigarette, my marijuana, my alcohol


Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:09 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Speakeasy and can can girls says HI.


If they banned alcohol, I would literally just buy a whole bunch for the thrill of it. If a law is stupid, it deserves to be broken.

The rise of golden grain alcohol will rise again in the thickets, in briar patches, in the hills and in the mountains.

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:09 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Whitemore wrote:Make it illegal and prevent it's production, it's a disease on Humanity and causes unneeded deaths.


Already tried that. It just led to the Italian Mafia becoming more powerful.


Not just Italians, Germans, Irish, Blacks, pretty much every race, creed and color got a piece of the bootlegging action. It can be argued that Prohibition, not unlike the so-called war on drugs, was targeted against minority groups, particularly Blacks. Prohibiting anything that human beings find enjoyable and that can be enjoyed without undue harm to others is generally a Bad Thing even without reference to increasing the profit from flouting the prohibition.
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Postby Azalfia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.
In honor of :roll:
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Man drinks alcohol to spite NS user; more at 10:00 on this developing story.
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Azalfia wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.

Yes, because preventing humans from indulging in one of it's greatest delights and doing a prohibition will obviously work! Let's do a War On Alcohol while we're at it!

No but seriously, war on prohibited substances seem to constantly fail. Maybe we should fight to reduce demand to a minimum, which would make alcohol less popular and less consumed?


I am basing my entire answer on the fact OP asked if we would ban Alcohol if given the chance, that is all he asked. He never went beyond that and said if our order could be disobeyed, it was a simple yes or no question and I answered. I know the Prohibition failed in the United States and has failed worldwide, it's in human natural to disobey orders.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Speakeasy and can can girls says HI.


If they banned alcohol, I would literally just buy a whole bunch for the thrill of it. If a law is stupid, it deserves to be broken.


As broken as the bottles used to stab a mofo?
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
Sorry, but, I don't care where you're from. WORLDWIDE PROHIBITION.
In honor of :roll:
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That's a pretty cool looking bottle!
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Postby NationStates Puppet » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:11 pm

If no-one could argue with me, YES. If they can, then I’ll just ‘restrict’ it to a few cups per day. It will still be allowed for medical purposes, of course.
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:11 pm

Azalfia wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:In honor of :roll:
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I really wouldn't call that "spite," I personally don't care.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Azalfia wrote:Yes, because preventing humans from indulging in one of it's greatest delights and doing a prohibition will obviously work! Let's do a War On Alcohol while we're at it!

No but seriously, war on prohibited substances seem to constantly fail. Maybe we should fight to reduce demand to a minimum, which would make alcohol less popular and less consumed?


I am basing my entire answer on the fact OP asked if we would ban Alcohol if given the chance, that is all he asked. He never went beyond that and said if our order could be disobeyed, it was a simple yes or no question and I answered. I know the Prohibition failed in the United States and has failed worldwide, it's in human natural to disobey orders.


Arguably it's bad from an ethical as well as a practical standpoint to proclaim laws that society would be indifferent to see broken.
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Postby NationStates Puppet » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Already tried that. It just led to the Italian Mafia becoming more powerful.


Not just Italians, Germans, Irish, Blacks, pretty much every race, creed and color got a piece of the bootlegging action. It can be argued that Prohibition, not unlike the so-called war on drugs, was targeted against minority groups, particularly Blacks. Prohibiting anything that human beings find enjoyable and that can be enjoyed without undue harm to others is generally a Bad Thing even without reference to increasing the profit from flouting the prohibition.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:14 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Already tried that. It just led to the Italian Mafia becoming more powerful.


Not just Italians, Germans, Irish, Blacks, pretty much every race, creed and color got a piece of the bootlegging action. It can be argued that Prohibition, not unlike the so-called war on drugs, was targeted against minority groups, particularly Blacks. Prohibiting anything that human beings find enjoyable and that can be enjoyed without undue harm to others is generally a Bad Thing even without reference to increasing the profit from flouting the prohibition.

Prohibition came about due to the rise of nutball busy bodies of the temperance movement which started before the civil war and gained steam afterwards coming to head in 1919.
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:14 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
I am basing my entire answer on the fact OP asked if we would ban Alcohol if given the chance, that is all he asked. He never went beyond that and said if our order could be disobeyed, it was a simple yes or no question and I answered. I know the Prohibition failed in the United States and has failed worldwide, it's in human natural to disobey orders.


Arguably it's bad from an ethical as well as a practical standpoint to proclaim laws that society would be indifferent to see broken.


That's fair enough.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:15 pm

NationStates Puppet wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Not just Italians, Germans, Irish, Blacks, pretty much every race, creed and color got a piece of the bootlegging action. It can be argued that Prohibition, not unlike the so-called war on drugs, was targeted against minority groups, particularly Blacks. Prohibiting anything that human beings find enjoyable and that can be enjoyed without undue harm to others is generally a Bad Thing even without reference to increasing the profit from flouting the prohibition.

‘Let me slam myself into as many things as I can because I like it,’


Works for me.
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Postby NationStates Puppet » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:15 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Whitemore wrote:
I am basing my entire answer on the fact OP asked if we would ban Alcohol if given the chance, that is all he asked. He never went beyond that and said if our order could be disobeyed, it was a simple yes or no question and I answered. I know the Prohibition failed in the United States and has failed worldwide, it's in human natural to disobey orders.


Arguably it's bad from an ethical as well as a practical standpoint to proclaim laws that society would be indifferent to see broken.

But you said that you would make it mandatory to drink alcohol every day, people would break that law too. At least around 1.5 billion of them.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:17 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Welcome to the Middle East. to the region of the world where all crimes where alcohol is prohibited.The prohibitionist mentality needs to break its chains. don't touch my cigarette, my marijuana, my alcohol


Alcohol isn't illegal in the whole middle east. I literally bought French liquor in Nableus one time.
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Postby NationStates Puppet » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:18 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Alcohol isn't illegal in the whole middle east. I literally bought French liquor in Nableus one time.
I feel in my throat that political Islamists oppose everything beautiful.
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Postby Whitemore » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:19 pm

NationStates Puppet wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I feel in my throat that political Islamists oppose everything beautiful.
Şerefine Malum Kişi

What’s that? I don’t like going on YouTube, sorry.


It's a 23 second video of bros singing and raising their drinks in union.
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Postby Castellum Roma » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:20 pm

Alcohol is for posers.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:21 pm

With full immersion VR, emotional regulation through implanted brain chips, and neuropharmacy advancements, alcohol will be rendered unnecessary. I mean, so does a whole bunch of other things, but oh well.

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