Christian Discussion Thread XII: Soter? I hardly know her!

[Luminesa]

Christ died not for the people of 1st century AD Judea, but for all people for all times.

Yes, but none of us were alive back then. Holding us all responsible for Christ's death would be untrue.

So the sin which was the wall between Adam and Eve was not necessarily an active sin which all of humanity did together. Our personal sins are one thing. Original sin is more of a mark that has been passed through humanity. In His death and resurrection, Jesus shows He is stronger than original sin, and has the power to bridge the gap between our smallness and His infinity.

[Salus Maior]

Cardinal Marx has offered his resignation to Pope Francis

[Sundiata]

Tolerance and respect are not weaknesses.

No, but the Gathering Hymnal is : P

That was nice to hear, but really, the Jesuits I've met are perfectly nice priests. I just prefer the Priestly Society of the Holy Cross (PSHC) to Jesuit catechesis. In my encounters with priests of the PSHC there was no lukewarmness. My role in the world was emphasized, my purpose in the world was emphasized. It's not a tiny deal that our Messiah was a carpenter. It's not a coincidence that St. Joseph is known as the worker. Reciprocating God's love, simply, is our job to do as Christians. Our conduct has to be so well ordered so that our coalition of Christ beatifies the world.

Money is something PSHC priests taught me about. There is a story of a "sad lad," in the bible who walked away from our Lord forlornly. A young rich man chose death by his refusal to give to the poor the financial compensation and charity that is due to them. The young rich man lost his happiness. In contrast, there's the example of our Mother who said yes to our Lord. That's an important part of our purpose that I felt was lacking when I received Jesuit catechesis. The emphasis on ordinary things, things like money.

[Kowani]

Cardinal Marx has offered his resignation to Pope Francis

seizing the means of ordination

also

He had been scheduled to receive the Bundesverdienstkreuz

try saying that 5 times fast

[Sundiata]

Christ died not for the people of 1st century AD Judea, but for all people for all times.

Yes, but none of us were alive back then. Holding us all responsible for Christ's death would be untrue.

For what purpose do you think Christ died?

[Loeje]

Cardinal Marx has offered his resignation to Pope Francis

seizing the means of ordination

also

He had been scheduled to receive the Bundesverdienstkreuz

try saying that 5 times fast

I can. It's not that hard.

[Sundiata]

Rather, Sheol is a place of rest and of wandering for souls. It’s...dreary, but not a place of burning fire. St. Joseph, the prophets, and the virtuous pagans all hung here until Jesus opened the doors. That means most of those people are probably in Heaven.

How is Sheol not a lesser degree of hell?

[Kowani]

seizing the means of ordination

also

He had been scheduled to receive the Bundesverdienstkreuz

try saying that 5 times fast

I can. It's not that hard.

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you don't say

[Salus Maior]

I can. It's not that hard.

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you don't say

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

[Sundiata]

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you don't say

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

[Kowani]

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you don't say

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

they're very deserved complaints

[Salus Maior]

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

English. Since that's all I can speak and read well enough.

I know a bit of German though.

[Atheris]

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

[Salus Maior]

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

they're very deserved complaints

Still haven't forgiven Teutoburg Forest, huh?

[Atheris]

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

they're very deserved complaints

What's wrong, Kowani? You don't want to be a part of the Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft?

[Loeje]

I can. It's not that hard.

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you don't say

It really isn't that hard if you know German. Sorry.

I feel like Germanic languages are more difficult for primarily Latin speakers.

At least, those are the people I hear complain about German the most

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

I like German better, but I usually read in English now.

[Sundiata]

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

Why do you use a Lutheran German bible from 1912?

[Atheris]

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

Why do you use a Lutheran German bible from 1912?

Like I said. It's the oldest one I can find on the internet, and I feel like the older you go back with the Bible the more accurate it will be.

Also, I need to brush up on my German and it's good practice.

[Dylar]

What is your preferred language to read scripture?

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

If that's the case, then might I recommend the Latin Vulgate?

[Sundiata]

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

If that's the case, then might I recommend the Latin Vulgate?

[Loeje]

Why do you use a Lutheran German bible from 1912?

Like I said. It's the oldest one I can find on the internet, and I feel like the older you go back with the Bible the more accurate it will be.

Also, I need to brush up on my German and it's good practice.

I think Bible Gateway might have an older Lutherbibel.

Edit: Yes, they have 1545.

[Sundiata]

Why do you use a Lutheran German bible from 1912?

Like I said. It's the oldest one I can find on the internet, and I feel like the older you go back with the Bible the more accurate it will be.

Also, I need to brush up on my German and it's good practice.

Not to startle you, but I have many questions about Martin Luther and Lutheranism itself. Do you subscribe to the five solas?

[Atheris]

I use a 1912 Lutheran German Bible. Even if it's a protestant bible and the plurality of people I talk to are Catholics I think that the further back you go in the bible the more accurate it will be.

If that's the case, then might I recommend the Latin Vulgate?

Is there an online version?
Regardless, Latin's Google Translate is iffy at best and I don't speak it. Latin? More like Craptin

[Atheris]

Like I said. It's the oldest one I can find on the internet, and I feel like the older you go back with the Bible the more accurate it will be.

Also, I need to brush up on my German and it's good practice.

Not to startle you, but I have many questions about Martin Luther and Lutheranism itself. Do you subscribe to the five solas?

I'm not a Lutheran. I've been non-denominational since 2019.

[Sundiata]

Not to startle you, but I have many questions about Martin Luther and Lutheranism itself. Do you subscribe to the five solas?

I'm not a Lutheran. I've been non-denominational since 2019.

Makes sense. Do you agree with the five solas though? And what brought you to believe that Jesus is Lord?