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I think..

Yup, we're basically screwed
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22%
Nope, the course of history trends to greater representation
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20%
To war!
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10%
Time to get rich and powerful
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10%
Time to comment on a message board
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6%
Time after Time
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No votes
Time for the great Emperor Hasselhoff
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16%
Time to click a poll
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8%
Sign of the Times
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Closing Time
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No votes
 
Total votes : 50

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Sungoldy-China
Diplomat
 
Posts: 538
Founded: Aug 15, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Sungoldy-China » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:05 am

Senkaku wrote:
Diahon wrote:You know what I think? TO WAR!

It doesn't fucking matter what compromises you make with a fucking authoritarian, or a whole murder of them -- they'll kill the world to get power.

Most authoritarian regimes are a lot more boring than you think they are

Your balls, your money, your loves, your life, all for the sake of power. Motherfucking power. Insensate insatiable lust for power, just to kick even more people around before they end their lives.

At least, with even a war where you"ll lose and die, you decide how to fucking go out. Live in eternal fear before these fuckshits playing their deadly games with you? Fuck authoritarians, fuck their power lusts, and FUCK THEM ALL!

ALL!!!!!!

what do these drama/rage posts do for you psychologically? they can't possibly make you feel good, and God knows they're excruciating to read since you seem so earnest about it, so what gives?

What do you want this loser to do?
This is the most powerful thing he can do
every religious idea and every idea of God is unutterable vileness ... of the most dangerous kind, 'contagion' of the most abominable kind
"every religious idea and every idea of God is unutterable vileness ... of the most dangerous kind, 'contagion' of the most abominable kind. Millions of sins, filthy deeds, acts of violence and physical contagions ... are far less dangerous than the subtle, spiritual idea of God decked out in the smartest ideological costumes ..."

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Punished UMN
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6163
Founded: Jul 05, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Punished UMN » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:25 am

Senkaku wrote:
Diahon wrote:You know what I think? TO WAR!

It doesn't fucking matter what compromises you make with a fucking authoritarian, or a whole murder of them -- they'll kill the world to get power.

Most authoritarian regimes are a lot more boring than you think they are

Your balls, your money, your loves, your life, all for the sake of power. Motherfucking power. Insensate insatiable lust for power, just to kick even more people around before they end their lives.

At least, with even a war where you"ll lose and die, you decide how to fucking go out. Live in eternal fear before these fuckshits playing their deadly games with you? Fuck authoritarians, fuck their power lusts, and FUCK THEM ALL!

ALL!!!!!!

what do these drama/rage posts do for you psychologically? they can't possibly make you feel good, and God knows they're excruciating to read since you seem so earnest about it, so what gives?

^This.

Most authoritarian governments probably only really care about your daily life insofar as it affects society as a whole. For the vast majority of Chinese citizens, the government probably doesn't intrude into their daily lives much more than it does in Western countries. Authoritarian governments aren't actually run by one guy, even de jure dictatorships require a mass bureaucratic line that will often catch or put a check on the craziest policies, and since especially in state socialist countries like China, the leadership generally has risen from the bottom to the top (Xi Jinping at one time in his life was a mayor, and before that he was a literal peasant farmer), so they have some idea of the realistic problems with certain ways of going about things. The kind of frothing at the mouth fanaticism you get out of Nazism simply can't exist in any kind of long-lasting government: you didn't really have a second generation of Nazi leadership for a reason; once you get to a second generation of authoritarian leadership, the leadership's fanaticism for ideology starts to wane and the leadership begins to turn towards more basic and practical concerns of governing their country. The same thing happened to the USSR, PRC, Vietnam, Cuba, the Ba'athist state in Syria, Turkey, etc. etc.

Outside of ideologies like Nazism or paranoid dictatorships like Stalin's USSR, even genocide is pretty "boring", it's usually less the result of racism or hatred and more the result of the government having a long-term political problem with a certain community and some external pressure to solve it quickly without regard for humanitarian issues (e.g. the Armenian genocide was the culmination of hundreds of years of ethnic dispute that just so happened to ignite during the First World War when the Ottoman state had a realistic threat to its existence).
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Sierran Republic
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Jun 03, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Sierran Republic » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:35 am

People keep on buying Amazon Wiretaps Echos all the time. Americans corporations are doing the surveillance in the West, and I would be surprised if the Chinese government could do a better job at it.
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Adamede
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7809
Founded: Jul 22, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Adamede » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:20 am

Western style liberal democracies have only really existed for around 2 centuries, and only really became popular in the last half century or so.

Compared to human history that’s nothing. It remains to be seen if they’ll last as long as government types ran by kings and other strongmen.

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