Wuhan Lab Might be COVID Origin

[Galloism]

Hence why the scientific attention. Apparently, US intelligence agencies are leaning on an animal link at 2:1 (according to Biden from my previous source link), citing insufficient evidence overall for much of anything. The WHO, meanwhile seems not to have concluded very much at the moment beyond where to start looking. As Zeng Guang confirmed, COVID-19 had its first cases noted in Wuhan. Accordingly, as the WHO and now hopefully the wider world have been working towards, they’re looking towards the most apparent scene in question. Even if was Liechtenstein leading the effort, it’s most sensible to investigate that which is most near and face-value to the start of this disease in humans and expand from there if something seems odd. Like a private investigator or detective, if you will.

The security question which could hypothetically arise for some stuff of Wuhan, of course, should be surmountable. It seems demonstrated in this thread that details relevant to reasoning an animal or lab link are quite available with ongoing data on natural coronaviruses in China and information on standard lab procedures, hence giving a far less potentially compromising and more assuredly impartial way to judge on a balance of probabilities over time. It’s almost certain that for now we cannot treat theories at any higher of a level; as it would practically be speculation. Ideally, this makes way for an open and well-meaning dialogue that can grow as new information arises.

I almost agree with all of your words(if I dont misunderstand you)

But a terrible fact is,there was an investigation,and,of course,when this investigation ends and doesnot 'discovered definitive proof the virus leaked from a lab'——so many people find their theories to explain "China must do this and must destroy the fact".
Ok,so China is in a situation that,if an investigation can find proof,China is the one to be blame,and if an investigation can not find proof,China is also the one to be blame.
Just imagine that,if an investigation surely turn Wuhan upside down and doesnot find the proof,then what will happen?
Of course they will call for another investigation,just like now.

And……after all ,I agree to do more work together,if it means there needs another investigation ,there should be another investigation.
But I dont think there will be much difference , and conspiracy will never stop.
US is eager to find a scapegoat.

So that "investigation" was a farce.

Typical like China, they refused to let outside researchers see any of the data, only read the conclusions of the Chinese scientists, and insisted on half of the committee being Chinese state agents, thereby giving veto power over any conclusions.

If you had an audit team like that, they'd haul your ass into court for creating fraudulent implication of financial security without sufficient controls.

[Willtime]

I almost agree with all of your words(if I dont misunderstand you)

But a terrible fact is,there was an investigation,and,of course,when this investigation ends and doesnot 'discovered definitive proof the virus leaked from a lab'——so many people find their theories to explain "China must do this and must destroy the fact".
Ok,so China is in a situation that,if an investigation can find proof,China is the one to be blame,and if an investigation can not find proof,China is also the one to be blame.
Just imagine that,if an investigation surely turn Wuhan upside down and doesnot find the proof,then what will happen?
Of course they will call for another investigation,just like now.

And……after all ,I agree to do more work together,if it means there needs another investigation ,there should be another investigation.
But I dont think there will be much difference , and conspiracy will never stop.
US is eager to find a scapegoat.

So that "investigation" was a farce.

Typical like China, they refused to let outside researchers see any of the data, only read the conclusions of the Chinese scientists, and insisted on half of the committee being Chinese state agents, thereby giving veto power over any conclusions.

If you had an audit team like that, they'd haul your ass into court for creating fraudulent implication of financial security without sufficient controls.

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I almost agree with all of your words(if I dont misunderstand you)

But a terrible fact is,there was an investigation,and,of course,when this investigation ends and doesnot 'discovered definitive proof the virus leaked from a lab'——so many people find their theories to explain "China must do this and must destroy the fact".
Ok,so China is in a situation that,if an investigation can find proof,China is the one to be blame,and if an investigation can not find proof,China is also the one to be blame.
Just imagine that,if an investigation surely turn Wuhan upside down and doesnot find the proof,then what will happen?
Of course they will call for another investigation,just like now.

And……after all ,I agree to do more work together,if it means there needs another investigation ,there should be another investigation.
But I dont think there will be much difference , and conspiracy will never stop.
US is eager to find a scapegoat.

So that "investigation" was a farce.

Typical like China, they refused to let outside researchers see any of the data, only read the conclusions of the Chinese scientists, and insisted on half of the committee being Chinese state agents, thereby giving veto power over any conclusions.

If you had an audit team like that, they'd haul your ass into court for creating fraudulent implication of financial security without sufficient controls.

Yeah, because scrubbing the data makes them seem LESS sus. (/s.) Honestly, the CCP is culpable to some degree, and that is undeniable. They've been getting away with things for far to long, but instead of standing up to them, the rest of the world has just. Well. Nothing's really changed, has it? The only country that could stand up to them, the United States, has a president with less balls than I have--and I'm a cis girl. (Half of F7 knows this anyway, so why not?)

I think 'twould be great if we could boycott the Beijing Olympics, but we all know that won't happen.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

COVID most certainly IMO was not made in a lab.
The way markets operate is pretty uniform throughout Africa and Asia. The infected animals likely had their blood and/or feces and urine touched by sellers, who in wrapping it passed it on to their customers, who in turn touched other people.

Wanting to save face like a typical Communist dictatorship, China recognized that it was begin to spread and after realizing it was a deadly pathogen tried to cover up and downplay it while still trying to contain it. Unfortunately, the virus was spreading throughout China and the surrounding around the same time as the Lunar New Year, so people across not just China but East Asia in general were gathering in crowds to celebrate, along with people in the Chinese diaspora (and the East Asian diaspora, really) were flying to East Asia or having relatives in East Asia fly to them to celebrate, further spreading the disease.

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

[Galloism]

So that "investigation" was a farce.

Typical like China, they refused to let outside researchers see any of the data, only read the conclusions of the Chinese scientists, and insisted on half of the committee being Chinese state agents, thereby giving veto power over any conclusions.

If you had an audit team like that, they'd haul your ass into court for creating fraudulent implication of financial security without sufficient controls.

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

[Willtime]

COVID most certainly IMO was not made in a lab.
The way markets operate is pretty uniform throughout Africa and Asia. The infected animals likely had their blood and/or feces and urine touched by sellers, who in wrapping it passed it on to their customers, who in turn touched other people.

Wanting to save face like a typical Communist dictatorship, China recognized that it was begin to spread and after realizing it was a deadly pathogen tried to cover up and downplay it while still trying to contain it. Unfortunately, the virus was spreading throughout China and the surrounding around the same time as the Lunar New Year, so people across not just China but East Asia in general were gathering in crowds to celebrate, along with people in the Chinese diaspora (and the East Asian diaspora, really) were flying to East Asia or having relatives in East Asia fly to them to celebrate, further spreading the disease.

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

Just because the great US try to stop "the US flu".

[GuessTheAltAccount]

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

Just because the great US try to stop "the US flu".

I'm all for more honest naming of diseases all around.

[Willtime]

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

[Fartsniffage]

So that "investigation" was a farce.

Typical like China, they refused to let outside researchers see any of the data, only read the conclusions of the Chinese scientists, and insisted on half of the committee being Chinese state agents, thereby giving veto power over any conclusions.

If you had an audit team like that, they'd haul your ass into court for creating fraudulent implication of financial security without sufficient controls.

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

The "army base in Maryland", actually Fort Detrick, was publicly barred from conducting BSL-3 and BSL-4 work in 2019 after the CDC found 2 breaches in containment protocols. It had to completely retrain its staff and review procedures before they were allowed to start work again 8 months later. This was all public. Can you imagine the CCP announcing the same thing about Wuhan?

[Atheris]

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

[Insaanistan]

COVID most certainly IMO was not made in a lab.
The way markets operate is pretty uniform throughout Africa and Asia. The infected animals likely had their blood and/or feces and urine touched by sellers, who in wrapping it passed it on to their customers, who in turn touched other people.

Wanting to save face like a typical Communist dictatorship, China recognized that it was begin to spread and after realizing it was a deadly pathogen tried to cover up and downplay it while still trying to contain it. Unfortunately, the virus was spreading throughout China and the surrounding around the same time as the Lunar New Year, so people across not just China but East Asia in general were gathering in crowds to celebrate, along with people in the Chinese diaspora (and the East Asian diaspora, really) were flying to East Asia or having relatives in East Asia fly to them to celebrate, further spreading the disease.

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

Because it was called “Ebola virus”, not “African Virus”.
Yes, many people with recent African ancestry (myself included) got racist and xenophobic remarks relating to Ebola, but not to the extent Asian people are getting discrimination due to Coronavirus.

With climate change, disease outbreaks are bound to be worse and worse as time goes on. Also, not every disease is the name, obviously. SARS and COVID-19 are 2 different coronaviruses.

[South Welford]

Hence why the scientific attention. Apparently, US intelligence agencies are leaning on an animal link at 2:1 (according to Biden from my previous source link), citing insufficient evidence overall for much of anything. The WHO, meanwhile seems not to have concluded very much at the moment beyond where to start looking. As Zeng Guang confirmed, COVID-19 had its first cases noted in Wuhan. Accordingly, as the WHO and now hopefully the wider world have been working towards, they’re looking towards the most apparent scene in question. Even if was Liechtenstein leading the effort, it’s most sensible to investigate that which is most near and face-value to the start of this disease in humans and expand from there if something seems odd. Like a private investigator or detective, if you will.

The security question which could hypothetically arise for some stuff of Wuhan, of course, should be surmountable. It seems demonstrated in this thread that details relevant to reasoning an animal or lab link are quite available with ongoing data on natural coronaviruses in China and information on standard lab procedures, hence giving a far less potentially compromising and more assuredly impartial way to judge on a balance of probabilities over time. It’s almost certain that for now we cannot treat theories at any higher of a level; as it would practically be speculation. Ideally, this makes way for an open and well-meaning dialogue that can grow as new information arises.

I almost agree with all of your words(if I dont misunderstand you)

But a terrible fact is,there was an investigation,and,of course,when this investigation ends and doesnot 'discovered definitive proof the virus leaked from a lab'——so many people find their theories to explain "China must do this and must destroy the fact".
Ok,so China is in a situation that,if an investigation can find proof,China is the one to be blame,and if an investigation can not find proof,China is also the one to be blame.
Just imagine that,if an investigation surely turn Wuhan upside down and doesnot find the proof,then what will happen?
Of course they will call for another investigation,just like now.

And……after all ,I agree to do more work together,if it means there needs another investigation ,there should be another investigation.
But I dont think there will be much difference , and conspiracy will never stop.
US is eager to find a scapegoat.

You'll find most Americans here are quite satisfied scapegoating each other for many things, so worry not. Independent and open investigations will work well like a peer-review for what China has almost certainly worked on, and at least here in this forum that's a pretty good standard for sourcing. Ultimately, those who don't pay bother to them will not get far, and the only loser is those who seek to misinform. Stuff like that supersedes rumours, which are only in human nature after all.

[Galloism]

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

Trump was and is an idiot. I'm allowed to say that, because I live in a place with free speech. You can't say that about Xi.

But that's not the point.

The simple point is there's multiple pieces of circumstantial evidence that point in the direction of the Wuhan Laboratory. There is no such circumstantial evidence that points in the direction of Maryland.

Until you provide some kind of circumstantial evidence regarding the base in Maryland, your tu quoque is completely hollow.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

The "army base in Maryland", actually Fort Detrick, was publicly barred from conducting BSL-3 and BSL-4 work in 2019 after the CDC found 2 breaches in containment protocols. It had to completely retrain its staff and review procedures before they were allowed to start work again 8 months later. This was all public. Can you imagine the CCP announcing the same thing about Wuhan?

The CCP would die before ever admitting it was anything less than all-powerful, flawless, perfect, universal, etc. etc.

It is, of course, none of those things.

[South Welford]

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

The US is more complicated than one man - or you wouldn't find anyone to really talk to in this forum.

[Willtime]

You find your theory.
It might be right,too.
Just dont forget the 'might' and 'the army base in Maryland'.

The "army base in Maryland", actually Fort Detrick, was publicly barred from conducting BSL-3 and BSL-4 work in 2019 after the CDC found 2 breaches in containment protocols. It had to completely retrain its staff and review procedures before they were allowed to start work again 8 months later. This was all public. Can you imagine the CCP announcing the same thing about Wuhan?

CCP does the samething,stop whole the Wuhan city for months.
But of course,just another wrong of CCP.
When you can just say CCP is telling lies whole the time,why would you care about "CCP announcing"?

[Insaanistan]

I'm saying given the relevant circumstantial evidence, it's worth a REAL investigation. That doesn't mean it's true. It may very well not be true. But it's worth a real investigation, where the investigators get to see the data and the Chinese state does not have veto power over the conclusion.

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

Interesting.
I have varying degrees of fluency in several languages, and know people able to speak them with greater fluency, or speak alternative languages with a remarkable fluency. I live in one of the most diverse countries in the world, and with that comes linguistic diversity (isn’t it funny how German lost to English as our main language by only one vote, and English isn’t even out official language).

From Persian speakers in LA to Somali speakers in Minneapolis to Spanish speakers in Florida to Mandarin speakers in New York, there is a remarkable amount of people fluent in both English and one or more other languages.

We pride ourselves as a nation that while often finding it difficult to get along with each other, can at certain points come together around one cause to do a great endeavor, as we have done many times in history.

But gather all the people in the country, no matter where they’re from, no matter what they speak, or what they believe in, Republican and Democrat and independent, and leave them alone, there wouldn’t be enough time in the world decipher what the f*ck you just said.

[Willtime]

I almost agree with all of your words(if I dont misunderstand you)

But a terrible fact is,there was an investigation,and,of course,when this investigation ends and doesnot 'discovered definitive proof the virus leaked from a lab'——so many people find their theories to explain "China must do this and must destroy the fact".
Ok,so China is in a situation that,if an investigation can find proof,China is the one to be blame,and if an investigation can not find proof,China is also the one to be blame.
Just imagine that,if an investigation surely turn Wuhan upside down and doesnot find the proof,then what will happen?
Of course they will call for another investigation,just like now.

And……after all ,I agree to do more work together,if it means there needs another investigation ,there should be another investigation.
But I dont think there will be much difference , and conspiracy will never stop.
US is eager to find a scapegoat.

You'll find most Americans here are quite satisfied scapegoating each other for many things, so worry not. Independent and open investigations will work well like a peer-review for what China has almost certainly worked on, and at least here in this forum that's a pretty good standard for sourcing. Ultimately, those who don't pay bother to them will not get far, and the only loser is those who seek to misinform. Stuff like that supersedes rumours, which are only in human nature after all.

You are right,prejudice blindfolds my eyes.

[Galloism]

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

Interesting.
I have varying degrees of fluency in several languages, and know people able to speak them with greater fluency, or speak alternative languages with a remarkable fluency. I live in one of the most diverse countries in the world, and with that comes linguistic diversity (isn’t it funny how German lost to English as our main language by only one vote, and English isn’t even out official language).

From Persian speakers in LA to Somali speakers in Minneapolis to Spanish speakers in Florida to Mandarin speakers in New York, there is a remarkable amount of people fluent in both English and one or more other languages.

We pride ourselves as a nation that while often finding it difficult to get along with each other, can at certain points come together around one cause to do a great endeavor, as we have done many times in history.

But gather all the people in the country, no matter where they’re from, no matter what they speak, or what they believe in, Republican and Democrat and independent, and leave them alone, there wouldn’t be enough time in the world decipher what the f*ck you just said.

And off to AQ you go.

[Willtime]

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

The US is more complicated than one man - or you wouldn't find anyone to really talk to in this forum.

Yes,it is a ridiculous conspiracy.

[Willtime]

Yes,and Trump is the one who said 'it will disappear in April'
We have many relevant circumstantial evidences.
First,US is the strongest country,if US want to stop it,US can stop it.So US dont want to stop it,so US is the one who make it.Yes,we need to get in the army base in Maryland!
↑
Ridiculous conspiracy ,but "relevant circumstantial evidence".

US even does not let anyone in.

Trump was and is an idiot. I'm allowed to say that, because I live in a place with free speech. You can't say that about Xi.

But that's not the point.

The simple point is there's multiple pieces of circumstantial evidence that point in the direction of the Wuhan Laboratory. There is no such circumstantial evidence that points in the direction of Maryland.

Until you provide some kind of circumstantial evidence regarding the base in Maryland, your tu quoque is completely hollow.

I can,but I cant prove it with Internet,when you can just say every Chinese news is lie.
So you might be right.

And the former mayor of Wuhan is an idiot,worse than Trump.
Even a spy can not do more.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

Because it was called “Ebola virus”, not “African Virus”.
Yes, many people with recent African ancestry (myself included) got racist and xenophobic remarks relating to Ebola, but not to the extent Asian people are getting discrimination due to Coronavirus.

With climate change, disease outbreaks are bound to be worse and worse as time goes on. Also, not every disease is the name, obviously. SARS and COVID-19 are 2 different coronaviruses.

Usually stereotypes about Asians are more positive than those about Africans, so of course when something as unusual as negative stereotypes about the former begin to prevail it's going to garner media attention.

Nonetheless, the Ebola River is in Africa, so it'd be more analogous to calling COVID-19 the Wuhan Virus than to calling it the China Virus. (The latter phrase is far too vague anyway.)

[Galloism]

Trump was and is an idiot. I'm allowed to say that, because I live in a place with free speech. You can't say that about Xi.

But that's not the point.

The simple point is there's multiple pieces of circumstantial evidence that point in the direction of the Wuhan Laboratory. There is no such circumstantial evidence that points in the direction of Maryland.

Until you provide some kind of circumstantial evidence regarding the base in Maryland, your tu quoque is completely hollow.

I can,but I cant prove it with Internet,when you can just say every Chinese news is lie.
So you might be right.

And the former mayor of Wuhan is an idiot,worse than Trump.
Even a spy can not do more.

How convenient, that you would have all this evidence but can't show any of it.

I don't know the mayor of Wuhan, so I'll take your word for it on him or her being an idiot.

I'd say we're done.

[Adamede]

WTF difference does it make where COVID came from? The previous US administration's ignorance and inertia would still have led to 500k+ unneccesary deaths if it came from a lab, a bat, a pangolin or Bun E. Carlos.

Might be a good idea to know where it came from to take steps to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

Just a thought.

[Ifreann]

COVID most certainly IMO was not made in a lab.
The way markets operate is pretty uniform throughout Africa and Asia. The infected animals likely had their blood and/or feces and urine touched by sellers, who in wrapping it passed it on to their customers, who in turn touched other people.

Wanting to save face like a typical Communist dictatorship, China recognized that it was begin to spread and after realizing it was a deadly pathogen tried to cover up and downplay it while still trying to contain it. Unfortunately, the virus was spreading throughout China and the surrounding around the same time as the Lunar New Year, so people across not just China but East Asia in general were gathering in crowds to celebrate, along with people in the Chinese diaspora (and the East Asian diaspora, really) were flying to East Asia or having relatives in East Asia fly to them to celebrate, further spreading the disease.

New pandemics emerging from Africa are not as contagious as the new pandemics emerging from Asia. (And more specifically China; hantavirus is spread by rodents defecating and urinating, not by human beings coughing.) COVID-19 was airborne; Ebola was not.

Curious, isn't it, how it was okay to name Ebola after a river in Africa, but not to name COVID-19 after the city in China where it originated?

Even compared to their own screwup with SARS, COVID-19 spread further. Almost as if it were designed to be more contagious or something.

The WHO changed their guidelines about the naming of diseases in 2015.

Ebola virus was first identified in 1976.

Curious that standards established in 2015 were not applied to diseases named years and even decades prior to their establishment.

I am very intelligent.