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Postby New haven america » Tue May 25, 2021 5:45 pm

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New haven america wrote:The US doesn't have any economic leverage against China though, thanks to the Republicans selling America's industry to the place.


Is that why all the liberals and their celebrity friends make videos apologizing and simping to the CCP? Cause "Republicans" :roll:

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 pm

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Herzpunkt wrote:What should be done to China should this information be deemed accurate?


A good question. At the very least they should be made to follow some basic standards of safety in their labs, along with the withdrawal of funding from outside China for any and all of their projects until they can prove they have done so.

Also, lab leak claims true or not, the rest of the world needs to disentangle themselves from reliance on the exploitative Chinese economy.


I think a harsher response is needed, but this seems at the minimum appropriate
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue May 25, 2021 5:47 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Trump being terrible doesn't make China trustworthy, and people need to know that.

Not sure what you were trying to prove by addressing this to me specifically, considering I've been the one skeptical of China's narrative and handling of the pandemic for well over a year now - and for what it's worth I don't consider Trump to have been a terrible president either. A little nuts, sure, but I liked him infinitely more than his predecessor or his successor.

I'm saying I reject your narrative while at the same time opposing the media.
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Thermodolia wrote:No. We’ve done none of those. Cutting all trade with China isn’t tame. We aren’t in a position to invade China so the next best thing is to cut all trade, sanction them, and arrest the party officials

We're not in a position to cut trade or arrest party members either because China owns most of America's manufacturing.

Yes we are. China relies on us to keep their economy running. Yes it might hurt for a bit but if we shift our manufacturing around and get Europe and other nations on board we can hit China where it hurts.

Saying we can’t do anything so we are screwed is just defeatism
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Riiight. So is there anything to discuss, or is this the NSG equivalent of farting in an elevator full of people and leaving?
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 25, 2021 5:49 pm

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New haven america wrote:We're not in a position to cut trade or arrest party members either because China owns most of America's manufacturing.

Yes we are. China relies on us to keep their economy running. Yes it might hurt for a bit but if we shift our manufacturing around and get Europe and other nations on board we can hit China where it hurts.

Saying we can’t do anything so we are screwed is just defeatism


yeah it's pathetic and weak
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Postby Nilokeras » Tue May 25, 2021 5:52 pm

Kowani wrote:fox news, now on NSG


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Rusozak wrote:Riiight. So is there anything to discuss, or is this the NSG equivalent of farting in an elevator full of people and leaving?


That's the OP's whole MO, really
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue May 25, 2021 5:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
New haven america wrote:We're not in a position to cut trade or arrest party members either because China owns most of America's manufacturing.

Yes we are. China relies on us to keep their economy running. Yes it might hurt for a bit but if we shift our manufacturing around and get Europe and other nations on board we can hit China where it hurts.

Saying we can’t do anything so we are screwed is just defeatism

Just doing business with them is a national security risk, but companies care about short term profits over anything else. It's time for our government to tell them no, so yes, I agree.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes we are. China relies on us to keep their economy running. Yes it might hurt for a bit but if we shift our manufacturing around and get Europe and other nations on board we can hit China where it hurts.

Saying we can’t do anything so we are screwed is just defeatism

Just doing business with them is a national security risk, but companies care about short term profits over anything else. It's time for our government to tell them no, so yes, I agree.


exactly

You can't even set up business in China without the CCP directly involved.

We have celebrities, role models and even our athletes simping for them.
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 25, 2021 5:56 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Sanctioned. Trade cut. Arrests be carried out on party members who aren’t in China

The US doesn't have any economic leverage against China though, thanks to the Republicans selling America's industry to the place.


Clinton and Biden supported bringing the PRC into the WTO and all.
I mean it was a bipartisan disaster to be fair.
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Thermodolia wrote:Yes we are. China relies on us to keep their economy running. Yes it might hurt for a bit but if we shift our manufacturing around and get Europe and other nations on board we can hit China where it hurts.

Saying we can’t do anything so we are screwed is just defeatism

Just doing business with them is a national security risk, but companies care about short term profits over anything else. It's time for our government to tell them no, so yes, I agree.

And if those companies refuse we can Nationalize them
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 25, 2021 5:57 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Just doing business with them is a national security risk, but companies care about short term profits over anything else. It's time for our government to tell them no, so yes, I agree.

And if those companies refuse we can Nationalize them


as free market as I am, i'd be okay with that.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue May 25, 2021 5:58 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Just doing business with them is a national security risk, but companies care about short term profits over anything else. It's time for our government to tell them no, so yes, I agree.


exactly

You can't even set up business in China without the CCP directly involved.

We have celebrities, role models and even our athletes simping for them.

It's worse than that. Hollywood even produces Chinese propaganda now.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 25, 2021 5:59 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
exactly

You can't even set up business in China without the CCP directly involved.

We have celebrities, role models and even our athletes simping for them.

It's worse than that. Hollywood even produces Chinese propaganda now.


I know, it's fucking insane people can't see it

it can be subtle or even blatant, but it's very much present.

Movies the past few years have been increasingly pro-China or whenever China is present or represented it's in a positive light.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue May 25, 2021 6:00 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And if those companies refuse we can Nationalize them


as free market as I am, i'd be okay with that.

I do not understand the conservative's love for the "free market." It causes massive socioeconomic problems which damage the society you want to preserve, and corporations promote woke values on top of it. Giant conglomerates would sell out America to China if they could make a quick buck on it.
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