Five Oregon Counties vote to Join Idaho

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

In our current state we couldn't get 2/3 to vote for this. We can't get 2/3 for wearing masks during a pandemic of a lethal airborne virus.

Well then I guess you don’t have to worry about frivolous amendments then.

No, just frivolousness in of itself.

[Thermodolia]

Again you are so entitled that you don’t understand how expensive it is to actually move. Most people can’t afford to move. It’s not so easy as you make it out to be

And again it's your rebelliousness which doesn't comprehend the various expenses of redrawing state lines every generation when 5 - 7% of a state's rural population is unhappy. It's your propose which is far from easy. It's ludicrous on it's face.

My rebelliousness? All I’ve been saying is that we should allow them to have the chance to work it’s way through the system. If the system denies it then that’s that. Otherwise if it’s a success then we must respect the will of the people.

And you seem to think that it’s so easy to move states so why don’t you? Why don’t you move states and then report back.

[Thermodolia]

Well then I guess you don’t have to worry about frivolous amendments then.

No, just frivolousness in of itself.

How is making the amendment process less stupid frivolous? Don’t you want the nation to be less divided? Don’t you want it to be easier to pass amendments that would benefit the nation and make the electoral system more fair and free so that people don’t have break away from the states they are living in, in order to have adequate representation?

If you don’t want that then I think you need to admit you don’t actually want a democratic society and just want a dictatorship-lite.

[Dresderstan]

No, just frivolousness in of itself.

How is making the amendment process less stupid frivolous? Don’t you want the nation to be less divided? Don’t you want it to be easier to pass amendments that would benefit the nation and make the electoral system more fair and free so that people don’t have break away from the states they are living in, in order to have adequate representation?

If you don’t want that then I think you need to admit you don’t actually want a democratic society and just want a dictatorship-lite.

Assuming we aren't on the way to such a result.

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

And again it's your rebelliousness which doesn't comprehend the various expenses of redrawing state lines every generation when 5 - 7% of a state's rural population is unhappy. It's your propose which is far from easy. It's ludicrous on it's face.

My rebelliousness? All I’ve been saying is that we should allow them to have the chance to work it’s way through the system. If the system denies it then that’s that. Otherwise if it’s a success then we must respect the will of the people.

And you seem to think that it’s so easy to move states so why don’t you? Why don’t you move states and then report back.

As much ever as it is with arbitrary entitlement as you yourself carelessly speak of. Nevertheless, the system has denied it as it has denied numerous other attemps preceding this. There is the State of Lincoln denied in 1907.

And your last sentence there seems to need some literal tightening. Me move states? Or move to another state? Maybe you can calm it down.

[Thermodolia]

My rebelliousness? All I’ve been saying is that we should allow them to have the chance to work it’s way through the system. If the system denies it then that’s that. Otherwise if it’s a success then we must respect the will of the people.

And you seem to think that it’s so easy to move states so why don’t you? Why don’t you move states and then report back.

As much ever as it is with arbitrary entitlement as you yourself carelessly speak of. Nevertheless, the system has denied it as it has denied numerous other attemps preceding this. There is the State of Lincoln denied in 1907.

And your last sentence there seems to need some literal tightening. Me move states? Or move to another state? Maybe you can calm it down.

You seem to think that it’s easy to just up and move to a new state. So why don’t you just up and move to a new state and then tell us how easy it was.

If you can’t figure out how to read the English language that’s not my problem

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

No, just frivolousness in of itself.

How is making the amendment process less stupid frivolous? Don’t you want the nation to be less divided? Don’t you want it to be easier to pass amendments that would benefit the nation and make the electoral system more fair and free so that people don’t have break away from the states they are living in, in order to have adequate representation?

If you don’t want that then I think you need to admit you don’t actually want a democratic society and just want a dictatorship-lite.

We could make a movie of these two assumptions. Call it Wrong and wronger.

1. No, it's the idea that this entire discussion is seriously going anywhere which is frivolous.

2. It's impractical in the case of only 60,000 people.

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

As much ever as it is with arbitrary entitlement as you yourself carelessly speak of. Nevertheless, the system has denied it as it has denied numerous other attemps preceding this. There is the State of Lincoln denied in 1907.

And your last sentence there seems to need some literal tightening. Me move states? Or move to another state? Maybe you can calm it down.

You seem to think that it’s easy to just up and move to a new state. So why don’t you just up and move to a new state and then tell us how easy it was.

If you can’t figure out how to read the English language that’s not my problem

You seem to make unwarranted assumptions about others. Guess what that means?

Let's just break it off here for now.

[Washington Resistance Army]

2. It's impractical in the case of only 60,000 people.

What exactly is the cutoff point where it becomes practical, then?

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

2. It's impractical in the case of only 60,000 people.

What exactly is the cutoff point where it becomes practical, then?

It's not titration, WRA.

Suffice it to say it's a much greater number than 60,000.

[Thermodolia]

You seem to think that it’s easy to just up and move to a new state. So why don’t you just up and move to a new state and then tell us how easy it was.

If you can’t figure out how to read the English language that’s not my problem

You seem to make unwarranted assumptions about others. Guess what that means?

Let's just break it off here for now.

You yourself said that they should just move. Even though it costs thousands of dollars just to rent a a moving truck and 80% of Americans don’t have more than $1000 in savings.

Seems to me that you think moving is very easy. If you think it’s the case then it shouldn’t be hard for you to move to say Tennessee. But the fact that you keep dodging the question confirms that you know it’s not actually that easy to just pick up everything and move

[Thermodolia]

What exactly is the cutoff point where it becomes practical, then?

It's not titration, WRA.

Suffice it to say it's a much greater number than 60,000.

So when? Because we’ve made territories into to states that had around those numbers before.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's not titration, WRA.

Suffice it to say it's a much greater number than 60,000.

So when? Because we’ve made territories into to states that had around those numbers before.

60,000 was actually exactly the number required to become a state in the northwest, so it's pretty amusing to say it's not enough.

[San Lumen]

No one is saying they should be ignored but its outright ludicrous to expect a state to give up two thirds of their of land which is what the group behind these referendums ultimate goal is.

Yes you were in fact saying they should be ignored.

Never said that.

[Dresderstan]

Yes you were in fact saying they should be ignored.

Never said that.

You have, you have constantly said the minority should be ignored.

[San Lumen]

Never said that.

You have, you have constantly said the minority should be ignored.

No I did not.

[Wallenburg]

Never said that.

You have, you have constantly said the minority should be ignored.

Saying that separatism is not a legitimate solution for whenever you are in the minority is a far cry from saying that the minority should be ignored.

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

So when? Because we’ve made territories into to states that had around those numbers before.

60,000 was actually exactly the number required to become a state in the northwest, so it's pretty amusing to say it's not enough.

Way back in the 1880s. Haha, gimme a break. A more relevant read is how many people lived in HI in 1960 as it became the 50th state. About 633,000.

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

[Atheris]

60,000 was actually exactly the number required to become a state in the northwest, so it's pretty amusing to say it's not enough.

Way back in the 1880s. Haha, gimme a break. A more relevant read is how many people lived in HI in 1960 as it became the 50th state. About 633,000.

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

Approximately 2,360 people per square mile.

...Wait, are you talking about Long Island or Oregon?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to. Self determination either exists or it doesn't, there shouldn't be some wacky middle ground on the concept.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

Not low enough. End urbanism now.

[San Lumen]

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to. Self determination either exists or it doesn't, there shouldn't be some wacky middle ground on the concept.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

Not low enough. End urbanism now.

There was a separatist movement a few years ago. It went nowhere.

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to. Self determination either exists or it doesn't, there shouldn't be some wacky middle ground on the concept.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

Not low enough. End urbanism now.

Ha ha, yes, to be sure. It's less than 2 persons per square mile. Meanwhile North Dakota, the least populated state, is 10.7 per sq mi.

Enough with this nowhere Oregon nonsense. Statehood for LI and DC.

[The Two Jerseys]

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to. Self determination either exists or it doesn't, there shouldn't be some wacky middle ground on the concept.



Not low enough. End urbanism now.

There was a separatist movement a few years ago. It went nowhere.

So what?

[Your Own Private FlorIDAHO]

Way back in the 1880s. Haha, gimme a break. A more relevant read is how many people lived in HI in 1960 as it became the 50th state. About 633,000.

Right now, in 2021, Long Island has over 7.6 Million people. That's more population than half the states. Why not make it a state? I guess they actually could.

What's the mean population density in those several counties, WRA?

Approximately 2,360 people per square mile.

...Wait, are you talking about Long Island or Oregon?

Both at this point, so that's interesting.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

If Long Island gets its own statehood despite having no real separatist movement or distinct culture, that will open the floodgates to politicians trying to split their state into units of 60,000 to flood the Senate with reps with the same coloured hats.

Which, while probably less than good for the overall stability of American government, will certainly be very amusing to me personally. Long live the Islander State!