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Would you proceed with the Transformation?

Yes (let's turn absolutely everyone into a random single ethnic group)
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No
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat May 15, 2021 3:19 pm

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 15, 2021 3:19 pm

No because Racism is just being used today as a means to divide people and turn them against one another and as a way for certain people to gain power and wealth by promising that they and only them have the solution as long as you give them lots of money and power.

If you got rid of races they'll simply change to something else, one side would declare themselves as saviors of the oppressed left handed, and the other side would declare themselves the protectors of the Right handed majority.

And then both sides would demand lots and lots of money to make sure you're compliant and to "FIGHT OPPRESSION!!!!"
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Postby Eahland » Sat May 15, 2021 5:34 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:You are now all Neanderthals. Surprise!

Aw, man. I was hoping for hobbits.

Azania- wrote:Humanity's strength is it's diversity. I wonder what genetic problems, if any, would arise in a completely ethnically homogenous population.

We're actually not very diverse. Humanity apparently went through a pretty serious genetic bottleneck in early prehistory, so we're all descended from only a few thousand people. Humanity's strengths are thinking, talking, and tools.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 8:24 pm

Well I imagine it would at least get rid of the BLM issues for a while if nothing else.

Still, I prefer a planet with people having a wide range of appearances.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 8:30 pm

Luziyca wrote:No: as the burakumin prove, even if you're part of the same ethnic group as dominant society, they'll find a way to discriminate against you.


Maybe but that will take a few decades/generations to reconfigure? Maybe humanity will learn in that time.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Well I imagine it would at least get rid of the BLM issues for a while if nothing else.

Still, I prefer a planet with people having a wide range of appearances.

It's a question of a (waay) greater harm of millions of deaths due to skin cancer, also melanoma, identity (by that, I mean like personal identity on your driver's license) loss, identity theft, and billions of people being unable to recognize their friends and family. It's like trying to get rid of erectile dysfunction by erasing everyone's reproductive organs.

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“Race is no longer an issue?”

Postby Deacarsia » Sat May 15, 2021 8:35 pm

This is a ridiculous idea that in the end actually would accomplish nothing. Human nature is fallen, and hence there will always be conflict.

Moreover, it is good that people look different. God created people the way they are for a reason.
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Postby Disgraces » Sat May 15, 2021 8:36 pm

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 8:37 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Well I imagine it would at least get rid of the BLM issues for a while if nothing else.

Still, I prefer a planet with people having a wide range of appearances.

It's a question of a (waay) greater harm of millions of deaths due to skin cancer, also melanoma, identity (by that, I mean like personal identity on your driver's license) loss, identity theft, and billions of people being unable to recognize their friends and family. It's like trying to get rid of erectile dysfunction by erasing everyone's reproductive organs.


Eh? Skin cancer? How come?

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat May 15, 2021 8:38 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Well I imagine it would at least get rid of the BLM issues for a while if nothing else.

Still, I prefer a planet with people having a wide range of appearances.

It's a question of a (waay) greater harm of millions of deaths due to skin cancer, also melanoma, identity (by that, I mean like personal identity on your driver's license) loss, identity theft, and billions of people being unable to recognize their friends and family. It's like trying to get rid of erectile dysfunction by erasing everyone's reproductive organs.

Indeed. Very much the Thanos school of race theory.

In that it is massive overkill, incredibly destructive, and wouldn't work anyway.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sat May 15, 2021 8:39 pm

It would be very unethical, and I'm sure racists would just end up loudly going around trying to distinguish themselves like the Sneetches but without the resolution.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat May 15, 2021 8:40 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:It's a question of a (waay) greater harm of millions of deaths due to skin cancer, also melanoma, identity (by that, I mean like personal identity on your driver's license) loss, identity theft, and billions of people being unable to recognize their friends and family. It's like trying to get rid of erectile dysfunction by erasing everyone's reproductive organs.


Eh? Skin cancer? How come?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 8:46 pm

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 8:47 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Eh? Skin cancer? How come?

Here


So is this source saying white Australians would have higher skin cancer rates than Aboriginals... or that Afrikaners would have higher rates than blacks in the tropics? It just doesn’t sound right.

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Postby Heloin » Sat May 15, 2021 8:50 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Here


So is this source saying white Australians would have higher skin cancer rates than Aboriginals... or that Afrikaners would have higher rates than blacks in the tropics? It just doesn’t sound right.

Do you not understand how melanin works?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat May 15, 2021 8:51 pm

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Turn everyone into dragons instead.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat May 15, 2021 8:51 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Here


So is this source saying white Australians would have higher skin cancer rates than Aboriginals... or that Afrikaners would have higher rates than blacks in the tropics? It just doesn’t sound right.

...that's literally what skin color is for.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat May 15, 2021 8:58 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Here


So is this source saying white Australians would have higher skin cancer rates than Aboriginals... or that Afrikaners would have higher rates than blacks in the tropics? It just doesn’t sound right.

Darker skin tone isn't just because nature loves diversity, IM. It's a form of natural adaptation in that it gives people who have been living in areas with higher sunlight intensity more protection against UV.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat May 15, 2021 9:02 pm

Technically, everyone is actually related, but if it happens as you say, genetic diseases will be more likely to multiply. diversity is therefore always good. I have an ethnic origin where the mixture of Anatolian Turks and southern salv is dominant.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 15, 2021 9:09 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:No because Racism is just being used today as a means to divide people and turn them against one another and as a way for certain people to gain power and wealth by promising that they and only them have the solution as long as you give them lots of money and power.

If you got rid of races they'll simply change to something else, one side would declare themselves as saviors of the oppressed left handed, and the other side would declare themselves the protectors of the Right handed majority.


And if you're in Ireland, one side would declare themselves defenders of the Red Hand and become the Red Hand Commandos.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 9:10 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
So is this source saying white Australians would have higher skin cancer rates than Aboriginals... or that Afrikaners would have higher rates than blacks in the tropics? It just doesn’t sound right.

Darker skin tone isn't just because nature loves diversity, IM. It's a form of natural adaptation in that it gives people who have been living in areas with higher sunlight intensity more protection against UV.


How significant is it though? Because I’ve never heard of a white Australian/African health crisis from insufficient melanin. Never heard of it.
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Postby Universil-Unoyz Wintarros » Sat May 15, 2021 9:10 pm

This idea angers me.

You would effectively be wiping away ALL of anthropology as a study and a great chunk of history as a study. All the races would be gone, we wouldn't be able to study how different ancient groups interacted with one another nor how they separately evolved.

Not to mention the evolution part- whites are white because they receive less sunlight up north, while tropical races are dark skinned due to a lot of sun.
Putting tropical races up north is a bad idea, same with white people in the tropics (as is currently being discussed).
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat May 15, 2021 9:11 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Darker skin tone isn't just because nature loves diversity, IM. It's a form of natural adaptation in that it gives people who have been living in areas with higher sunlight intensity more protection against UV.


How significant is it though? Because I’ve never heard of a white Australian/African health crisis from insufficient melanin. Never heard of it.

https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/skin ... tatistics/

Australia leads the world in skin cancer.

EDIT: in particular compare Australia's rates to those of the UK. They are roughly twice as high. If we exclude Australian Aboriginals (which I'm sure they're used to by now) these are essentially the same people. The influence of environment on skin is really dramatic.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 15, 2021 9:12 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Darker skin tone isn't just because nature loves diversity, IM. It's a form of natural adaptation in that it gives people who have been living in areas with higher sunlight intensity more protection against UV.


How significant is it though? Because I’ve never heard of a white Australian/African health crisis from insufficient melanin. Never heard of it.


Have you seen skin cancer rates in white folks IM? They're higher than in darker people because they have less melanin.

Haven't you ever wondered why both east Asians and whites are pale and southeast Asians, Africans and Indians are dark?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat May 15, 2021 9:13 pm

Universil-Unoyz Wintarros wrote:This idea angers me.

You would effectively be wiping away ALL of anthropology as a study and a great chunk of history as a study. All the races would be gone, we wouldn't be able to study how different ancient groups interacted with one another nor how they separately evolved.

Not to mention the evolution part- whites are white because they receive less sunlight up north, while tropical races are dark skinned due to a lot of sun.
Putting tropical races up north is a bad idea, same with white people in the tropics (as is currently being discussed).


I don’t think it erases the past though

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