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Postby Herzpunkt » Sat May 15, 2021 6:40 pm

Greater Somalia wrote:
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Why are you saying this? To appear tough?


When Israel wins with American made weapons, her neighbors run to the US and purchase those same weapons. When Israel starts to use drones, her neighbors start purchasing drones. Get the drift? When Israel got nuclear bombs so her neighbors can't invade but Israel can send jets deep into their territories, they eventually will need to have their own nuclear bombs (it's a matter of when).


Well yeah but this isnt a “victory” it just means everyone is advancing their weapons
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 15, 2021 6:45 pm

Greater Somalia wrote:Well, that's a grim assessment. I thought Israelis are a reasonable people and would make concessions while the enemy was at the gates. Who wants nuclear radiation circulating around earth?
There are no reasonable countries in the Middle East. Israel included.

The Muslim World launched repeated wars of extermination on Israel and they failed. If they launch another war Israel will assume it's yet another war of extermination and respond accordingly.
You seem to believe that there is some sort of future where the Jews of Israel will accept being conquered by the Muslim world, and that somehow it will be 'peaceful', bullshit. No one believes that, Israel least of all, they still continue to believe that if they lay down their weapons, either in the name of peace of conquest, the only thing they'll get is death.

Israel has set up their nuclear program simply to make sure that outcome never happens, if only to spitefully destroy the middle east so that no one, Jew, Muslim, or Christian, will be able to live there again.

If the Jews can't have Israel, no one will.

That is why ultimately there is no victory for Hamas. It's a lost cause.
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Postby Greater Somalia » Sat May 15, 2021 6:56 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
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When Israel wins with American made weapons, her neighbors run to the US and purchase those same weapons. When Israel starts to use drones, her neighbors start purchasing drones. Get the drift? When Israel got nuclear bombs so her neighbors can't invade but Israel can send jets deep into their territories, they eventually will need to have their own nuclear bombs (it's a matter of when).


Well yeah but this isnt a “victory” it just means everyone is advancing their weapons


It's a stepping stone for certain countries. Not long ago, Israel would invade Lebanon without any hesitation but not today.

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Postby Kowani » Sat May 15, 2021 7:18 pm

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Postby Greater Somalia » Sat May 15, 2021 7:38 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Greater Somalia wrote:Well, that's a grim assessment. I thought Israelis are a reasonable people and would make concessions while the enemy was at the gates. Who wants nuclear radiation circulating around earth?
There are no reasonable countries in the Middle East. Israel included.

The Muslim World launched repeated wars of extermination on Israel and they failed. If they launch another war Israel will assume it's yet another war of extermination and respond accordingly, they will never accept conquest by the Muslim world. Because they believe that if the Muslims conquer them they will genocide them.

Because that is what the Muslim World has repeatedly stated they would do.


At best, if Israel lost, Muslims would copy her playbook...take away Jewish rights and expel them while resettling Palestinians on confiscated lands or maybe since Jewish population is so insignificant that they could stay but Israel stops being a Jewish state. This extermination-genocide talk is a stretch (but that's me and I can't talk for others who might espouse differing views).
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 15, 2021 8:02 pm

Greater Somalia wrote:
At best, if Israel lost, Muslims would copy her playbook...take away Jewish rights and expel them while resettling Palestinians on confiscated lands or maybe since Jewish population is so insignificant that they could stay but Israel stops being a Jewish state. This extermination-genocide talk is a stretch (but that's me and I can't talk for others who might espouse differing views).
None of those outcomes are acceptable to Israel and they will resort to nuclear weapons to prevent that outcome, and no amount of Islamic nukes will stop that.

After all Israel has hostages in the form of all the Palestineans that will be within range of the side effects of nuclear war.
You nuke Israel and you genocide the Palestineans along with them. Either way everyone loses, like most aspects of nuclear war.
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Postby Kowani » Sat May 15, 2021 9:52 pm

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Postby Molopovia » Sat May 15, 2021 9:58 pm

Considering the state of the world right now, I think it may be slightly plausible to say a potential WW3 conflict might finally happen, and it could stem from these recent incidents.

I just hope both Israeli and Palestinian leaders calm the situation down before another full-blown war occurs.
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Postby Odreria » Sat May 15, 2021 10:35 pm

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 15, 2021 10:48 pm

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The road was a Hamas operative

Like I said in the other thread, Dahiya Doctrine.
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Postby Dowaesk » Sat May 15, 2021 10:53 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Greater Somalia wrote:
At best, if Israel lost, Muslims would copy her playbook...take away Jewish rights and expel them while resettling Palestinians on confiscated lands or maybe since Jewish population is so insignificant that they could stay but Israel stops being a Jewish state. This extermination-genocide talk is a stretch (but that's me and I can't talk for others who might espouse differing views).
None of those outcomes are acceptable to Israel and they will resort to nuclear weapons to prevent that outcome, and no amount of Islamic nukes will stop that.

After all Israel has hostages in the form of all the Palestineans that will be within range of the side effects of nuclear war.
You nuke Israel and you genocide the Palestineans along with them. Either way everyone loses, like most aspects of nuclear war.

Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Sat May 15, 2021 10:55 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote: None of those outcomes are acceptable to Israel and they will resort to nuclear weapons to prevent that outcome, and no amount of Islamic nukes will stop that.

After all Israel has hostages in the form of all the Palestineans that will be within range of the side effects of nuclear war.
You nuke Israel and you genocide the Palestineans along with them. Either way everyone loses, like most aspects of nuclear war.

Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.

It's worth noting, of course, that the existence of Islamic gaming implies Islamic gamers.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat May 15, 2021 10:56 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote: None of those outcomes are acceptable to Israel and they will resort to nuclear weapons to prevent that outcome, and no amount of Islamic nukes will stop that.

After all Israel has hostages in the form of all the Palestineans that will be within range of the side effects of nuclear war.
You nuke Israel and you genocide the Palestineans along with them. Either way everyone loses, like most aspects of nuclear war.

Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.

Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

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Postby Dowaesk » Sat May 15, 2021 10:57 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.

It's worth noting, of course, that the existence of Islamic gaming implies Islamic gamers.

Islamic walking, Islamic laughing, Islamic sleeping, Islamic kissing, Islamic dancing, Islamic texting, Islamic drawing.
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Postby Dowaesk » Sat May 15, 2021 11:00 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.

Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Halal rape
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat May 15, 2021 11:01 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Halal rape

Yeah, dude that's too far.

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Postby Muzehnaya » Sat May 15, 2021 11:01 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:Islamic nukes?
Wait i heard of this before. Islamic rape. Islamic gaming. Islamic prostitution. Islamic water drinking.

Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Aye. Of course, I think it's pretty well established that no so called "Muslim" country is going to do anything to Israel. The only one of them that has even lifted a finger to help Palestinians was Egypt.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Sat May 15, 2021 11:02 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Aye. Of course, I think it's pretty well established that no so called "Muslim" country is going to do anything to Israel. The only one of them that has even lifted a finger to help Palestinians was Egypt.


Egypt has only become more pro israel and they are looking more towards their ancient past than islamic ties to palestinians
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Postby Muzehnaya » Sat May 15, 2021 11:06 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Aye. Of course, I think it's pretty well established that no so called "Muslim" country is going to do anything to Israel. The only one of them that has even lifted a finger to help Palestinians was Egypt.


Egypt has only become more pro israel and they are looking more towards their ancient past than islamic ties to palestinians

I mean, if I'm remembering correctly, they largely got what they wanted out of their peace deal with Israel, so yeah. But at least they've sent aid to the Palestinians, which is more than any other of these countries can claim they've done.
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Postby Dowaesk » Sat May 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Aye. Of course, I think it's pretty well established that no so called "Muslim" country is going to do anything to Israel. The only one of them that has even lifted a finger to help Palestinians was Egypt.

The only reason Egypt is helping is becoz of the loud voice of it's citizens. Otherwise, Egypt would have been more than willing to ignore the Israelis.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat May 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Greater Somalia wrote:This extermination-genocide talk is a stretch (but that's me and I can't talk for others who might espouse differing views).


Its not a stretch partially if its true that 84% of the world's Jews live in only two places: Israel and the US. The US Jews are said to be becoming more non-Jewish over time by default, because they're increasingly assimilating into non-Jewish families or switching to other ideologies such as atheism.

All destroying Israel will accomplish is making the Jews "stateless" again like the Kurds presently are, and will revive the concept of a "Jewish question" for those places that decide to want to trend towards antisemitism but there no longer exists any place such people can emigrate to.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Sat May 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Egypt has only become more pro israel and they are looking more towards their ancient past than islamic ties to palestinians

I mean, if I'm remembering correctly, they largely got what they wanted out of their peace deal with Israel, so yeah. But at least they've sent aid to the Palestinians, which is more than any other of these countries can claim they've done.


Aid is a nice gesture but any nation or charity can do that.

I can go buy a truck load of water and beans, so its meh
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 15, 2021 11:09 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Sstt, it's a halal nuke.

Joking aside, I think we both understand that those nukes are Pakistan's

Aye. Of course, I think it's pretty well established that no so called "Muslim" country is going to do anything to Israel. The only one of them that has even lifted a finger to help Palestinians was Egypt.

That's the other thing that made Greater Somalia's statements so ludicrous. At this point most of the Middle East as a whole doesn't much care about the Palestinians because they have their own problems to worry about or in some cases they are trying to do the same to the people they don't like.

Considering what Saudi Arabia is doing to Yemen or what Turkey is doing to the Syrian land they're illegally occupying, and Egypt who's now in a proxy war with Libya, at this point they're all doing the same stuff they previously complained Israel did.
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Postby Muzehnaya » Sat May 15, 2021 11:10 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:I mean, if I'm remembering correctly, they largely got what they wanted out of their peace deal with Israel, so yeah. But at least they've sent aid to the Palestinians, which is more than any other of these countries can claim they've done.


Aid is a nice gesture but any nation or charity can do that.

I can go buy a truck load of water and beans, so its meh

I believe they were taking critically wounded people from Gaza to Cairo for treatment, actually.
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