256 Gazans killed by unlawful Israeli bombardment

[Muzehnaya]

Both of the tweets are unavailable, unfortunately.

So this is the first Account. Since the videos are still recent, just scroll down

Ah alright, I see the videos now, thanks.

[Saiwania]

I've read that Israel pulled off quite a brilliant disinformation operation. They made it appear as if they've invaded Gaza with ground forces and got the media to report it as fact, enough so that most of Hamas' fighters rushed into the tunnels to take defensive positions and once they were mostly concentrated in one place, Israel's air force obliterated them with a carpet bombing that has destroyed the tunnels they were in.

Its absolutely brilliant. I of course, back Israel 100% in this conflict.

[South Americanastan]

I've read that Israel pulled off quite a brilliant disinformation operation. They made it appear as if they've invaded Gaza with ground forces and got the media to report it as fact, enough so that most of Hamas' fighters rushed into the tunnels to take defensive positions and once they were mostly concentrated in one place, Israel's air force obliterated them with a carpet bombing that has destroyed the tunnels they were in.

Its absolutely brilliant. I love it.

If that's true, it's the most ingenious thing I've ever seen a military pull off

[Wallenburg]

I've read that Israel pulled off quite a brilliant disinformation operation. They made it appear as if they've invaded Gaza with ground forces and got the media to report it as fact, enough so that most of Hamas' fighters rushed into the tunnels to take defensive positions and once they were mostly concentrated in one place, Israel's air force obliterated them with a carpet bombing that has destroyed the tunnels they were in.

Its absolutely brilliant. I love it.

If that's true, it's the most ingenious thing I've ever seen a military pull off

Your standards are extremely low.

[Herzpunkt]

I've read that Israel pulled off quite a brilliant disinformation operation. They made it appear as if they've invaded Gaza with ground forces and got the media to report it as fact, enough so that most of Hamas' fighters rushed into the tunnels to take defensive positions and once they were mostly concentrated in one place, Israel's air force obliterated them with a carpet bombing that has destroyed the tunnels they were in.

Its absolutely brilliant. I love it.

If that's true, it's the most ingenious thing I've ever seen a military pull off

Yeah that would be a master military manuver

[Herzpunkt]

If that's true, it's the most ingenious thing I've ever seen a military pull off

Your standards are extremely low.

Thats not a low standard, thats actually an excellent way to devastate the enemy if it was successful, you dont have to like israel to recognize that

[The Lone Alliance]

It's like the prison logic...act scary and none will mess with you. Israel is surrounded by Arabs and it has to prove that they aren't to be messed with but nuking major Muslim cities kind of derails the whole concept of Israel trying to remain on the world map. Besides, what will none Muslim nations thinks about all that wonderful lethal radiation circulating around the globe?

It's worse than prison logic it's the Snake with a Hand Grenade Logic.

The snake itself cannot escape the explosion caused by the Grenade, the snake itself will die in the process of carrying out it's attack against those fucking with it. The snake is saying that it doesn't care if they die in the process as long as the people "Fucking with them" dies first. Which means Israel will only use their nuclear weapons at the point where the "State of Israel" is going to cease to exist anyway.

If the future you see is the Muslim world uniting and inevitably conquering Israel then for what reason Israel would have to hold back the nuclear holocaust? They'll be too dead to have to worry about the consequences.

Though really I cynically think that about every nuclear power, if a nation does have nuclear weapons and they are facing utter annihilation as a nation they have no reason to not use their nukes because at that point they have no reason to care about the consequences.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It's like the prison logic...act scary and none will mess with you. Israel is surrounded by Arabs and it has to prove that they aren't to be messed with but nuking major Muslim cities kind of derails the whole concept of Israel trying to remain on the world map. Besides, what will none Muslim nations thinks about all that wonderful lethal radiation circulating around the globe?

It's worse than prison logic it's the Snake with a Hand Grenade Logic.

The snake itself cannot escape the explosion caused by the Grenade, the snake itself will die in the process of carrying out it's attack against those fucking with it. The snake is saying that it doesn't care if they die in the process as long as the people "Fucking with them" dies first. Which means Israel will only use their nuclear weapons at the point where the "State of Israel" is going to cease to exist anyway.

If the future you see is the Muslim world uniting and inevitably conquering Israel then for what reason Israel would have to hold back the nuclear holocaust? They'll be too dead to have to worry about the consequences.

tfw Israel is Belka

[New haven america]

It's worse than prison logic it's the Snake with a Hand Grenade Logic.

The snake itself cannot escape the explosion caused by the Grenade, the snake itself will die in the process of carrying out it's attack against those fucking with it. The snake is saying that it doesn't care if they die in the process as long as the people "Fucking with them" dies first. Which means Israel will only use their nuclear weapons at the point where the "State of Israel" is going to cease to exist anyway.

If the future you see is the Muslim world uniting and inevitably conquering Israel then for what reason Israel would have to hold back the nuclear holocaust? They'll be too dead to have to worry about the consequences.

tfw Israel is Belka

No, that's different.

Belka voluntarily blew themselves up.

[The Lone Alliance]

tfw Israel is Belka

Not too far off from what they thought about doing during the 6 day war.

[Wallenburg]

Your standards are extremely low.

Thats not a low standard, thats actually an excellent way to devastate the enemy if it was successful, you dont have to like israel to recognize that

It is a low standard. Information asymmetry and deception have been standard military procedure since the invention of militaries. To convince the enemy that you will do one thing and then do another happens on a daily basis in war.

[Herzpunkt]

Thats not a low standard, thats actually an excellent way to devastate the enemy if it was successful, you dont have to like israel to recognize that

It is a low standard. Information asymmetry and deception have been standard military procedure since the invention of militaries. To convince the enemy that you will do one thing and then do another happens on a daily basis in war.

Well if thats the case then hamas is just that foolish lol

[Muzehnaya]

It is a low standard. Information asymmetry and deception have been standard military procedure since the invention of militaries. To convince the enemy that you will do one thing and then do another happens on a daily basis in war.

Well if thats the case then hamas is just that foolish lol

I meeeean, I don't think anyone has ever accused Hamas of being particularly smart lol.

[South Americanastan]

Thats not a low standard, thats actually an excellent way to devastate the enemy if it was successful, you dont have to like israel to recognize that

It is a low standard. Information asymmetry and deception have been standard military procedure since the invention of militaries. To convince the enemy that you will do one thing and then do another happens on a daily basis in war.

Yeah, but faking an entire invasion is really impressive. Remember, that means that every media outlet available to Hamas had to report on the Israeli "invasion", every piece of intel had to point towards an invasion, and not to mention the fact that it took 4 days to actually figure out what was going one.

[Kingdom Of Deutchland]

Good, as long as no civilians are killed, and all the terrorists are.

[Herzpunkt]

Well if thats the case then hamas is just that foolish lol

I meeeean, I don't think anyone has ever accused Hamas of being particularly smart lol.

True

[Greater Somalia]

It's like the prison logic...act scary and none will mess with you. Israel is surrounded by Arabs and it has to prove that they aren't to be messed with but nuking major Muslim cities kind of derails the whole concept of Israel trying to remain on the world map. Besides, what will none Muslim nations thinks about all that wonderful lethal radiation circulating around the globe?

It's worse than prison logic it's the Snake with a Hand Grenade Logic.

The snake itself cannot escape the explosion caused by the Grenade, the snake itself will die in the process of carrying out it's attack against those fucking with it. The snake is saying that it doesn't care if they die in the process as long as the people "Fucking with them" dies first. Which means Israel will only use their nuclear weapons at the point where the "State of Israel" is going to cease to exist anyway.

If the future you see is the Muslim world uniting and inevitably conquering Israel then for what reason Israel would have to hold back the nuclear holocaust? They'll be too dead to have to worry about the consequences.

Though really I cynically think that about every nuclear power, if a nation does have nuclear weapons and they are facing utter annihilation as a nation they have no reason to not use their nukes because at that point they have no reason to care about the consequences.

Israel is the first Middle Eastern nation to acquire a nuclear bomb so the genie is out the bottle and eventually her bluff of using those nukes will be called out (once her neighbors posses nuclear bombs). Also, I was thinking more of Israel facing a crushing military defeat where she cease to exist only by name...not an annihilation of its people.

[Shrillland]

Good, as long as no civilians are killed, and all the terrorists are.

Alas, there's been a lot of civilian deaths. As WRA pointed out earlier(or in the other thread), more civilians died in Gaza this past week from Israeli rockets than Israeli civilians killed by Hamas rockets in the past 20 years.

[Herzpunkt]

It's worse than prison logic it's the Snake with a Hand Grenade Logic.

The snake itself cannot escape the explosion caused by the Grenade, the snake itself will die in the process of carrying out it's attack against those fucking with it. The snake is saying that it doesn't care if they die in the process as long as the people "Fucking with them" dies first. Which means Israel will only use their nuclear weapons at the point where the "State of Israel" is going to cease to exist anyway.

If the future you see is the Muslim world uniting and inevitably conquering Israel then for what reason Israel would have to hold back the nuclear holocaust? They'll be too dead to have to worry about the consequences.

Though really I cynically think that about every nuclear power, if a nation does have nuclear weapons and they are facing utter annihilation as a nation they have no reason to not use their nukes because at that point they have no reason to care about the consequences.

Israel is the first Middle Eastern nation to acquire a nuclear bomb so the genie is out the bottle and eventually her bluff of using those nukes will be called out (once her neighbors posses nuclear bombs).

Id rather not have even more zealots with nukes thanks

[Greater Somalia]

Israel is the first Middle Eastern nation to acquire a nuclear bomb so the genie is out the bottle and eventually her bluff of using those nukes will be called out (once her neighbors posses nuclear bombs).

Id rather not have even more zealots with nukes thanks

Israel's neighbors are trying to emulate her military capabilities.

[Herzpunkt]

Id rather not have even more zealots with nukes thanks

Israel's neighbors are trying to emulate her military capabilities.

Why are you saying this? To appear tough?

[The Lone Alliance]

Israel is the first Middle Eastern nation to acquire a nuclear bomb so the genie is out the bottle and eventually her bluff of using those nukes will be called out (once her neighbors posses nuclear bombs).

Having nukes just makes Mutually Assured Destruction all the more inevitable. That's the point.

Technically the Muslim World already has nukes counting Pakistan, if Israel recklessly launched a nuke at Mecca or something Pakistan would likely happily give the Saudis the nuke to nuke them back for it. It doesn't change things.

Also, I was thinking more of Israel facing a crushing military defeat where she cease to exist only by name...not an annihilation of its people.

For Israel the former will lead to the later, Israel believes that if they're militarily defeated the Muslim world will genocide them because the Muslim world has repeatedly claimed that's exactly what they would do if they conquered Israel.

So they'll take the Middle East with them on the way out, at that point the Muslim world having nukes won't save them, it'll just make sure that after Israel nukes the Middle East, what is left of the Middle East will nuke them back, leaving the land too destroyed for whatever Palestineans left to ever live on it.

In the end Mecca and every major Middle Eastern city responsible for the attack will still be a smoking hole in the ground. There's no escaping it, if Israel goes they're taking the Middle East with them.

There is no military Victory over Israel that doesn't result in some form of Genocide over the middle east.

[Greater Somalia]

Israel's neighbors are trying to emulate her military capabilities.

Why are you saying this? To appear tough?

When Israel wins with American made weapons, her neighbors run to the US and purchase those same weapons. When Israel starts to use drones, her neighbors start purchasing drones. Get the drift? When Israel got nuclear bombs so her neighbors can't invade but Israel can send jets deep into their territories, they eventually will need to have their own nuclear bombs (it's a matter of when).

[Greater Somalia]

Israel is the first Middle Eastern nation to acquire a nuclear bomb so the genie is out the bottle and eventually her bluff of using those nukes will be called out (once her neighbors posses nuclear bombs).

Having nukes just makes Mutually Assured Destruction all the more inevitable. That's the point.

Also, I was thinking more of Israel facing a crushing military defeat where she cease to exist only by name...not an annihilation of its people.

For Israel the former will lead to the later, Israel believes that if they're militarily defeated the Arab world will genocide them just like the Nazis did.

So they'll take the Arab world with them on the way out, at that point the Arab world having nukes won't save them, it'll just make sure that after Israel nukes the Arab world, what is left of the Arab world will nuke them back, leaving the land too destroyed for whatever Palestineans left to ever live on it.

In the end Mecca and every major Middle Eastern city responsible for the attack will still be a smoking hole in the ground.

Well, that's a grim assessment. I thought Israelis are a reasonable people and would make concessions while the enemy was at the gates. Who wants nuclear radiation circulating around earth?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Good, as long as no civilians are killed, and all the terrorists are.

Civilians are already dead.

Also, has Israel stopped using white phosphorus bombs yet?