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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun May 16, 2021 12:04 pm

Dowaesk wrote:YAAAASSSS. I have cracked it. The way to peace. Palestine will get justice. And Israel will get their state.



We should do what Kernen suggested with is El Jerusalen. We move all the Israelis to Mexico and when Mexico asks why we did it, we say "cause we do a little trolling."
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Postby Lady Victory » Sun May 16, 2021 12:08 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:Ethnic cleansing is genocide, and vice-versa. They're literally the same thing.


They are related, though not the same thing.


Yes they are. There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 16, 2021 12:09 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Of course you don't see any issue with proudly supporting the oppressor one moment only to turn around and sputter objections when other people support the oppressed.


No successful foreign policy...

You aren't conducting foreign policy. You're wanking over how "strong" Israel are because you're a fascist.

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Postby South Americanastan » Sun May 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
They are related, though not the same thing.


Yes they are. There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.

There is a difference. In Ethnic Cleansing you kill people via gas. In Genocide you kill people via firing squad.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 16, 2021 2:18 pm

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Lady Victory wrote:
Yes they are. There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.

There is a difference. In Ethnic Cleansing you kill people via gas. In Genocide you kill people via firing squad.


That's one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen. And I've been on NSG for over a decade....

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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 16, 2021 2:20 pm

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South Americanastan wrote:There is a difference. In Ethnic Cleansing you kill people via gas. In Genocide you kill people via firing squad.

That's one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen. And I've been on NSG for over a decade....

I'm rather certain it was a joke.
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Postby Los-Altos » Sun May 16, 2021 2:55 pm

According to Australian Sky news program this morning, the Israeli massing of troops at the border of Gaza was a ploy. The fighters in Gaza upon seeing and hearing on the news that the Israeli were massing at there border to invade went into there tunnels and bunkers to get ready to fight when the Israelis attacked. When the Israelis were sure these fighters were in the tunnels and bunkers they sent in there air force armed with bunker busting missiles. Supposedly, many were wiped out. So it was a ploy, they never intended on an invasion. A UK. former military said it was an ingenious plan.
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Postby Labbos » Sun May 16, 2021 2:59 pm

Lady Victory wrote:There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.


Looking up "genocide definition" and "ethnic cleansing definition" on Bing gave me:

genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group
ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another

So there is a distinction in these definitions. If a people are expelled from a region, that is ethnic cleansing but not genocide.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 16, 2021 3:01 pm

Dowaesk wrote:YAAAASSSS. I have cracked it. The way to peace. Palestine will get justice. And Israel will get their state.



The Patrick star way to peace

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Postby Dowaesk » Sun May 16, 2021 3:07 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:YAAAASSSS. I have cracked it. The way to peace. Palestine will get justice. And Israel will get their state.



We should do what Kernen suggested with is El Jerusalen. We move all the Israelis to Mexico and when Mexico asks why we did it, we say "cause we do a little trolling."

I think I remember that joke from the big bang theory. Sheldon set out to find a way for peace in the middle east and suggested building a second Jerusalem in the mexican desert and moving the Jews there.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 16, 2021 3:08 pm

Labbos wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.


Looking up "genocide definition" and "ethnic cleansing definition" on Bing gave me:

genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group
ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another

So there is a distinction in these definitions. If a people are expelled from a region, that is ethnic cleansing but not genocide.


It's the same thing. There isn't any running away from it ethnic cleansing and genocide are the same thing.

The UN only made up the term "ethnic cleansing" to weasel out of intervening in places where there is genocide.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun May 16, 2021 3:35 pm



They could start by admitting their seige of Al aqsa was a dick move. That might help calm Hamas down and get them to at least talk.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun May 16, 2021 3:53 pm

We all wanted life to go back to normal after Corona.

So naturally, Israel rebooted their usual conflicts.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun May 16, 2021 3:57 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:We all wanted life to go back to normal after Corona.

So naturally, Israel rebooted their usual conflicts.

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Postby Rio Cana » Sun May 16, 2021 4:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


They could start by admitting their seige of Al aqsa was a dick move. That might help calm Hamas down and get them to at least talk.


On a news program they said this was a smart move by the Israeli PM in order to stay in power. They say that he most likely calculated that this would result in some conflict which would result in a state of emergency. Once in a state of emergency the new government which was being formed would be stopped. Thus, the PM would remain in power for more months. Remember, once he is no longer PM he could be indicted.
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Postby Lady Victory » Sun May 16, 2021 5:16 pm

Labbos wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:There is no virtually distinction between ethnic cleansing and genocide. One is the systematic extermination of a people, the other is the systematic extermination of a people. They're literally the same thing. The "differences" you provided are your own fabrication; they do not exist in any definition of the two terms. Genocide and ethnic cleansing are literally one in the same.


Looking up "genocide definition" and "ethnic cleansing definition" on Bing gave me:

genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group
ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another

So there is a distinction in these definitions. If a people are expelled from a region, that is ethnic cleansing but not genocide.


A pointless distinction as mass expulsion inevitably leads to death. The results are the same and the methods always rely on violence, force, terrorism, and coercion. There is no practical difference between the two.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Sun May 16, 2021 5:17 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Labbos wrote:
Looking up "genocide definition" and "ethnic cleansing definition" on Bing gave me:

genocide: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group
ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another

So there is a distinction in these definitions. If a people are expelled from a region, that is ethnic cleansing but not genocide.


A pointless distinction as mass expulsion inevitably leads to death. The results are the same and the methods always rely on violence, force, terrorism, and coercion. There is no practical difference between the two.


yeah it all sounds like semantics to me.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 16, 2021 5:35 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:A pointless distinction as mass expulsion inevitably leads to death. The results are the same and the methods always rely on violence, force, terrorism, and coercion. There is no practical difference between the two.

yeah it all sounds like semantics to me.

Especially considering this quote thread started because someone joked about creating an Israel-shaped enclave in the US as a backup for the real one.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun May 16, 2021 5:37 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
They could start by admitting their seige of Al aqsa was a dick move. That might help calm Hamas down and get them to at least talk.


On a news program they said this was a smart move by the Israeli PM in order to stay in power. They say that he most likely calculated that this would result in some conflict which would result in a state of emergency. Once in a state of emergency the new government which was being formed would be stopped. Thus, the PM would remain in power for more months. Remember, once he is no longer PM he could be indicted.


Man literally brought about the death of 10 Israelis and over 200 Palestinians just so he didn't go to jail.
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Postby Blue Nagia » Sun May 16, 2021 10:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:That's right, why should I back the side that is weaker


The whole "I support whoever is stronger" thing baffles me just from a survivalist perspective.

Strength in the sense of military might, and competence at running a government, are not the same thing. Just because you can nuke people doesn't mean you can feed them. Just because I have a gun doesn't mean I can run your economy.

The governments that are pouring huge amounts of money into their military are the ones who prioritise that military over things like safe infrastructure-- power, water, medical care, schools. They care less about their own citizens than they do about having the power to wage war, and that will ultimately come back to bite those citizens.

You back people who care, and they'll care for you, and you'll feel good about supporting them. You back people who get excited about killing, you end up with a sociopathic government.

I mean, seriously. This isn't a video game. It's not about who has more tanks, it's about what your country and your life will be like afterwards even if your guy wins.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 16, 2021 10:57 pm

Blue Nagia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:That's right, why should I back the side that is weaker


The whole "I support whoever is stronger" thing baffles me just from a survivalist perspective.

Strength in the sense of military might, and competence at running a government, are not the same thing. Just because you can nuke people doesn't mean you can feed them. Just because I have a gun doesn't mean I can run your economy.

The governments that are pouring huge amounts of money into their military are the ones who prioritise that military over things like safe infrastructure-- power, water, medical care, schools. They care less about their own citizens than they do about having the power to wage war, and that will ultimately come back to bite those citizens.

You back people who care, and they'll care for you, and you'll feel good about supporting them. You back people who get excited about killing, you end up with a sociopathic government.

I mean, seriously. This isn't a video game. It's not about who has more tanks, it's about what your country and your life will be like afterwards even if your guy wins.


By his own admission Sai is a NEET white nationalist. He doesn't exactly have a well developed understanding of the world and the intricacies of political theory or governance.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 16, 2021 11:08 pm

Biden says he working towards claim in Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Not that much in substance coming from Biden’s statement here. To be honest, I don’t think even the United States can do much in this case. Hamas and Israel are about to go to war....
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sun May 16, 2021 11:11 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Blue Nagia wrote:
The whole "I support whoever is stronger" thing baffles me just from a survivalist perspective.

Strength in the sense of military might, and competence at running a government, are not the same thing. Just because you can nuke people doesn't mean you can feed them. Just because I have a gun doesn't mean I can run your economy.

The governments that are pouring huge amounts of money into their military are the ones who prioritise that military over things like safe infrastructure-- power, water, medical care, schools. They care less about their own citizens than they do about having the power to wage war, and that will ultimately come back to bite those citizens.

You back people who care, and they'll care for you, and you'll feel good about supporting them. You back people who get excited about killing, you end up with a sociopathic government.

I mean, seriously. This isn't a video game. It's not about who has more tanks, it's about what your country and your life will be like afterwards even if your guy wins.


By his own admission Sai is a NEET white nationalist. He doesn't exactly have a well developed understand of the world and the intricacies of political theory or governance.


I see a strong overlap between NEETs and white nationalists. ;)
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