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Postby Zutaran » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:55 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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How is forbidding immigration from the Islamic world "genocide"?


What happens to the Muslims who are already here in your hypothetical world?

Stop asking valid questions!
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Postby Koletsia » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:58 am

Zutaran wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
What happens to the Muslims who are already here in your hypothetical world?

Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:59 am

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Zutaran wrote:Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.


Apparently the idea of being better than the people you claim to decry rather than acting just like them is lost on you.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:01 am

Koletsia wrote:
Zutaran wrote:Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.


It isnt all Muslims countries and two wrongs don't make a right. You know, as a person of color I've had some white folks say some very nasty things to me and about me. Do you think itd be okay if I started walking up to people on the street and calling them racial slurs? I got robbed by a couple black guys in 2018. Do you think that would make it okay if I robbed a couple black guys right now?

When you say "certain Muslim countries do this or that so we can too," you're admitting you're no better than them. So why even fight when you aren't?
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Postby Zutaran » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:04 am

Koletsia wrote:
Zutaran wrote:Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid.

Indeed. You know what jokes are, right?
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:09 am

Koletsia wrote:
Zutaran wrote:Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.


You have never been to Lebanon, Palestine, Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Tunisia, or Indonesia, have you?
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:11 am

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Insaanistan wrote:And science? Kinda like Muslim scientists thousands of years before Darwin believing in natural selection and evolution? Not that Darwin stole from them, he couldn’t read Arabic.


This isn't really an epic rebuttal tbh. While they might not have had the name or the full scientific theory for it evolution has long been an understood thing that has been manipulated by humans in both plants and animals stretching back millennia, Muslims were far from the first to notice it.

It’s a rebuttal due to the fact he thinks Muslims are foreign to science and the ability to think.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:13 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.


You have never been to Lebanon, Palestine, Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Tunisia, or Indonesia, have you?


Indonesia isn't really a great example. They do have blasphemy laws in some areas, at least one area has full on Shariah, their constitution mentions belief in one supreme god etc etc. It might not be a full theocracy, but it's about as close as you can be without tipping over the line.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:14 am

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You have never been to Lebanon, Palestine, Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Tunisia, or Indonesia, have you?


Indonesia isn't really a great example. They do have blasphemy laws in some areas, at least one area has full on Shariah, their constitution mentions belief in one supreme god etc etc. It might not be a full theocracy, but it's about as close as you can be without tipping over the line.


While that’s true, they don’t stop Christians and Jews from having churches and synagogues.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:16 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Indonesia isn't really a great example. They do have blasphemy laws in some areas, at least one area has full on Shariah, their constitution mentions belief in one supreme god etc etc. It might not be a full theocracy, but it's about as close as you can be without tipping over the line.


While that’s true, they don’t stop Christians and Jews from having churches and synagogues.

As an Indonesian myself, I'll just....reply to this in IDT, if it's alright.

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:23 am

Koletsia wrote:
Zutaran wrote:Stop asking valid questions!


The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.

Wrong, they don't. And some do, then you shouldn't be stooping to those countries' levels.
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Postby Koletsia » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:26 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Koletsia wrote:
The question is completely valid. I don't believe in harming them or stopping them from practicing their religion, just forbidding all new mosques, madrasas, etc. Just like what Muslim countries do to any religion that is not Islam.

Wrong, they don't. And some do, then you shouldn't be stooping to those countries' levels.


In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?

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Postby NationStates Puppet » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:28 am

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Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Wrong, they don't. And some do, then you shouldn't be stooping to those countries' levels.


In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?

Algeria? Iran? Iraq?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:52 am

Koletsia wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Wrong, they don't. And some do, then you shouldn't be stooping to those countries' levels.


In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?

In another thread you were proposing that the government should try to kill refugees at sea.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
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In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?

In another thread you were proposing that the government should try to kill refugees at sea.


Because Muslims cause some unspecified damage to society that you were unwilling to elaborate on.
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Postby Dowaesk » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
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In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?

In another thread you were proposing that the government should try to kill refugees at sea.

I think Lauren Southern tried that.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In another thread you were proposing that the government should try to kill refugees at sea.


Because Muslims cause some unspecified damage to society that you were unwilling to elaborate on.

Mmm, it is hard to believe that someone who wants the government to use "non-lethal" violence, an obviously insincere disclaimer, to deter refugees who might alter a community's identity by their presence is really concerned with the ability of Jews to build places of worship in nations which are almost exclusively Muslim. Very strange how Kolestia seems to want some countries to be free and open societies that welcome and tolerate all peoples, and wants other countries to strictly limit who is permitted to enter so as to preserve their ethnic and cultural identity.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:13 am

Koletsia wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Wrong, they don't. And some do, then you shouldn't be stooping to those countries' levels.


In which Muslim majority country (90%+ Muslim population) can I freely build a synagogue?


Albania. In fact, did you know during the holocaust the Albanians defended their Jewish population from the Nazis?

Of course you didn't, or you wouldn't have asked this question. Btw there are some Jews in Assad controlled Syria and Iran too, and they have the right to be Jews there.
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Why are they even there? It's zone A, that means no fucking IDF troops are supposed to be there.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:17 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


Why are they even there? It's zone A, that means no fucking IDF troops are supposed to be there.

Again, I doubt Israeli troops genuinely care where they actually are or aren’t allowed to be.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:19 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Why are they even there? It's zone A, that means no fucking IDF troops are supposed to be there.

Again, I doubt Israeli troops genuinely care where they actually are or aren’t allowed to be.


I'm sure Joe Biden will say as much about this as the lambs said about Hannibal Lecter.
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Koletsia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Mohammedan"


Oh, apologies. Saracen.
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Attempting to defend bombing media offices, IDF chief of staff, Lieutenant-General Aviv Kohavi claimed that journalists "drank coffee" with Hamas members in a café the israelis blew up... only it turned out no such café existed

Israel’s defence minister has distanced himself from comments made by his military chief after Israel bombed a Gaza Strip high-rise housing Al Jazeera and The Associated Press offices as well as other news outlets, saying the remarks were not meant to be taken literally.

In an article published on the website of Israel’s Channel 12 news over the weekend, the military chief of staff, Lieutenant-General Aviv Kohavi, was quoted as saying “the building was destroyed justly” and he did not have a “gram of regret”. The article claimed Hamas used various floors of the al-Jalaa tower for “significant electronic warfare” meant to disrupt Israeli air force GPS communications.

The article then said Kohavi told “a foreign source” the AP’s journalists drank coffee each morning in a cafeteria in the building’s entrance with Hamas electronics experts, whether they knew it or not.

The AP called the comments “patently false”, noting “there was not even a cafeteria in the building”. “I have been working in this office for more than 10 years and I have never seen anything [suspicious],” Al Jazeera’s Gaza correspondent Safwat al-Kahlout said the day after the Israeli air raid levelled the tower.

“I even asked my colleagues if they’ve seen anything suspicious and they all confirmed to me that they have never seen any military aspects or the fighters even coming in and out,” he added. “In our building we have lots of families that we know for more than 10 years, we meet each other every day on our way in and out to the office.”

Asked about Kohavi’s comments, Defence Minister Benny Gantz told foreign journalists on Monday the military chief was only speaking in figurative terms.

“When the chief of staff talked about it, he was trying to portray the atmosphere, not the actual aspects,” Gantz said.
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