Poll: "US greatest threat to democracy"

[Sungoldy-China]

It's so funny to see people care so much about a concept that is not clearly defined at all，

In particular, democracy is such a vain and meaningless luxury. It is meaningless to be able to preserve democracy except to prove that your country have inherited a large amount of property.

the price of democracy can be only pay for other people’s blood or your own blood .

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

BLM is a group that metastasized to the U.K. due to the influence of vile social media sites.

Leftists and liberals wanted a reason to protest, and the death of some guy half the world away was a good enough reason for them.

It's not surprising to see that you have absolutely no clue about how protests work, or in fact, why I took part in demonstrations.

[SD_Film Artists]

I mean that BLM is partialy to blame for more Americanisation. When in Britain I'm British, when in France I'm Anglais, if in America I'd be a whhite boii.

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

[Infected Mushroom]

I am very glad that the world is finally becoming attuned to the truth of the threat of American imperialism

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

The United States is the country with the greatest international influence. Therefore it is the greatest threat to world democracy. What is to understand? Had I been one of those surveyed I’d have answered the same.

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In particular, democracy is such a vain and meaningless luxury.

...regurgitate more CCP propaganda why don’t you.

I don’t know about you, but I happen to consider it fairly important that I don’t mysteriously disappear into a concentration camp for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

There is no such thing as a government for the people that is not also a government of the people.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

You know I'm an activist, right? I have been part of BLM and antifascist action. This sentence just doesn't work if you turn it around.

[Sungoldy-China]

The United States is the country with the greatest international influence. Therefore it is the greatest threat to world democracy. What is to understand? Had I been one of those surveyed I’d have answered the same.

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In particular, democracy is such a vain and meaningless luxury.

...regurgitate more CCP propaganda why don’t you.

I don’t know about you, but I happen to consider it fairly important that I don’t mysteriously disappear into a concentration camp for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

There is no such thing as a government for the people that is not also a government of the people.

Democracy can prevent you from disappearing after you tell the truth?
This is probably the funniest joke about democracy.
Democracy is nothing but a waste of more social costs to make the truth disappear
When the powers that be wanted to end the war in Vietnam, the leakers were trumpeted in the media as heroes.
When the powers that be wanted to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the leakers were prosecuted for endangering the country and the media didn't say a word, right ? Poor Julian Paul Assange, if you leaked those Afghan war documents today , you can be a ture hero instead of a miserable prisoner?
Not to mention Jeffrey Epstein conveniently dying in prison.
we are forever in a flow of information controlled by those in power.
Only those in power who have swept the flesh and blood of other nations throughout history are willing to use the blood of others to make this fact look a little sweeter with the trappings of democracy.
If China moves towards democracy, it only mean that China has harvested enough of the flesh and blood of other countries and used those bones to build a prettier cage.

[New Jacobland]

The United States is the country with the greatest international influence. Therefore it is the greatest threat to world democracy. What is to understand? Had I been one of those surveyed I’d have answered the same.

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...regurgitate more CCP propaganda why don’t you.

I don’t know about you, but I happen to consider it fairly important that I don’t mysteriously disappear into a concentration camp for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

There is no such thing as a government for the people that is not also a government of the people.

Democracy can prevent you from disappearing after you tell the truth?
This is probably the funniest joke about democracy.
Democracy is nothing but a waste of more social costs to make the truth disappear
When the powers that be wanted to end the war in Vietnam, the leakers were trumpeted in the media as heroes.
When the powers that be wanted to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the leakers were prosecuted for endangering the country and the media didn't say a word, right ? Poor Julian Paul Assange, if you leaked those Afghan war documents today , you can be a ture hero instead of a miserable prisoner?
Not to mention Jeffrey Epstein conveniently dying in prison.
we are forever in a flow of information controlled by those in power.
Only those in power who have swept the flesh and blood of other nations throughout history are willing to use the blood of others to make this fact look a little sweeter with the trappings of democracy.
If China moves towards democracy, it only mean that China has harvested enough of the flesh and blood of other countries and used those bones to build a prettier cage.

So you go off on a barely relevant tangent about whistleblowers? We aren't talking whistleblowers here, we are talking people who actively and publicly do not support the CCP.

[Sungoldy-China]

Democracy can prevent you from disappearing after you tell the truth?
This is probably the funniest joke about democracy.
Democracy is nothing but a waste of more social costs to make the truth disappear
When the powers that be wanted to end the war in Vietnam, the leakers were trumpeted in the media as heroes.
When the powers that be wanted to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the leakers were prosecuted for endangering the country and the media didn't say a word, right ? Poor Julian Paul Assange, if you leaked those Afghan war documents today , you can be a ture hero instead of a miserable prisoner?
Not to mention Jeffrey Epstein conveniently dying in prison.
we are forever in a flow of information controlled by those in power.
Only those in power who have swept the flesh and blood of other nations throughout history are willing to use the blood of others to make this fact look a little sweeter with the trappings of democracy.
If China moves towards democracy, it only mean that China has harvested enough of the flesh and blood of other countries and used those bones to build a prettier cage.

So you go off on a barely relevant tangent about whistleblowers? We aren't talking whistleblowers here, we are talking people who actively and publicly do not support the CCP.

Do you mean those Julian Paul Assange and Jeffrey Epstein are the supporters of the US? If so, that's even more pathetic .
then who are the people come out publicly against US? Those who were killed by the great US' democracy-values-laden drones?
Or those who got their countries infused with democratic values by the US military?
You don't have to connect me to CCP support.
Because CCP is now advocating its democracy process , which in my opinion is the biggest evidence that CCP has exploited and colonised other countries.

[SD_Film Artists]

Okay, so, you just don’t understand what BLM is. Don’t blame us for your own lack of knowledge on the subject.

You know I'm an activist, right? I have been part of BLM and antifascist action. This sentence just doesn't work if you turn it around.

Then you'll know how BLM and by extension the ACAB crowd has become so addicted to quantifying everything by American ideas of race and policing that the idea of an unarmed policeman treating people nicely in a suburb where people are Welsh first, British second, European third and white fourth is completely incomprehensible as it goes against the useful narrative that everyone lives in an NWA video. I've even known autistic ACABers to be against the idea of autistic policemen as they're too busy screaming "ACAB" to actually see how better inclusivity and training can help.


As for Antifa (assuming you meant the group rather than anti-fascism) is the hypocrisy lost on them when they say "not my prime minister" after a democratic election?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

You know I'm an activist, right? I have been part of BLM and antifascist action. This sentence just doesn't work if you turn it around.

Then you'll know how BLM and by extension the ACAB crowd has become so addicted to quantifying everything by American ideas of race and policing that the idea of an unarmed policeman treating people nicely in a suburb where people are Welsh first, British second, European third and white fourth is completely incomprehensible as it goes against the useful narrative that everyone lives in an NWA video. I've even known autistic ACABers to be against the idea of autistic policemen as they're too busy screaming "ACAB" to actually see how better inclusivity and training can help.


As for Antifa (assuming you meant the group rather than anti-fascism) is the hypocrisy lost on them when they say "not my prime minister" after a democratic election?

Okay, I'm just going to stop here, because if I needed to unpack all of that, it would get you a novel that has little to do with US impact on world democracy.

However, I will point out how patronising it is if you to assume you know better what autistic people would want than autistic people themselves.

The idea of policemen treating people nice in a suburb is also common in the US, it's the whole problem we have with privilege: some people do not suffer under the police boot as much as others. That's the whole point of BLM.

[Waukomis]

This isn't a big surprise, the US has been hated for years. The dominant superpower is always hated. You have to remember most of the nations saying the US is a threat to democracy are European nations, countries that were once great empires that are now shadows of their former selves. If the US were ever to return to isolationism, which it actually appears to be doing, most of these European nations, especially ones like Spain, Germany, or Greece, would be shocked at how weak their nations truly are. If the US wasn't in Europe to keep Russia and China in check, I guarantee you they would change their tune on "the greatest threat to democracy" real quick. In any case, the US knows it has never been a defender of democracy, it just claims that it is. It overthrew several democratically elected regimes because it was afraid they would ally with the Soviet Union.

[Hamlocken]

for all who think that democracy is the way i think not i think a full dictatorship is the way you have control and power of all your citizens

[Waukomis]

for all who think that democracy is the way i think not i think a full dictatorship is the way you have control and power of all your citizens

Ok, kid. Let me know how that works out.

[Great Algerstonia]

China is quite literally suppressing Hongkongers by the passing of the security act and their suppression of protest.

Yeah, well people get that if they're part of China. Which Hong Kong has been for a long time. Maybe the British should have just bought the city, instead of leasing it?

And the US rigging social media.

I share your grave concern about China violating the privacy of children who think it would be fun to show off their new dance to the whole world. Not to mention stealing the intellectual property of dogs in bowties who can do magic tricks.

Or y'know, teach your children that there are non-Americans on the big bad Internet. Maybe one of them will grow up to invent American-only internet and all you'll have to worry about are server smugglers from Canada.

what

[SD_Film Artists]

Then you'll know how BLM and by extension the ACAB crowd has become so addicted to quantifying everything by American ideas of race and policing that the idea of an unarmed policeman treating people nicely in a suburb where people are Welsh first, British second, European third and white fourth is completely incomprehensible as it goes against the useful narrative that everyone lives in an NWA video. I've even known autistic ACABers to be against the idea of autistic policemen as they're too busy screaming "ACAB" to actually see how better inclusivity and training can help.


As for Antifa (assuming you meant the group rather than anti-fascism) is the hypocrisy lost on them when they say "not my prime minister" after a democratic election?

Okay, I'm just going to stop here, because if I needed to unpack all of that, it would get you a novel that has little to do with US impact on world democracy.

However, I will point out how patronising it is if you to assume you know better what autistic people would want than autistic people themselves.

The idea of policemen treating people nice in a suburb is also common in the US, it's the whole problem we have with privilege: some people do not suffer under the police boot as much as others. That's the whole point of BLM.

I'm autistic and I've made no secret of that here, though your dedication to 'nothing about us without us' is noted and appreciated.

It's about country vs city too; it's no coincidence that you see more problems with policing in cities like London and Birmingham.

[Austreylia]

It's not surprising to see that you have absolutely no clue about how protests work, or in fact, why I took part in demonstrations.

You don't need to have an idea about anything to know that the huge, out-of-proportion nonsense drummed up via instagram, twitter and the snapchat "discover page" influenced events in the U.K.

And you probably took part in the protest because it's the socially acceptable and trendy thing to do.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Okay, I'm just going to stop here, because if I needed to unpack all of that, it would get you a novel that has little to do with US impact on world democracy.

However, I will point out how patronising it is if you to assume you know better what autistic people would want than autistic people themselves.

The idea of policemen treating people nice in a suburb is also common in the US, it's the whole problem we have with privilege: some people do not suffer under the police boot as much as others. That's the whole point of BLM.

I'm autistic and I've made no secret of that here, though your dedication to 'nothing about us without us' is noted and appreciated.

It's about country vs city too; it's no coincidence that you see more problems with policing in cities like London and Birmingham.

Apologies, I assumed wrongly, then. I thought you were doubting agency of autistic people, which you obviously aren't. I'm sorry, again.

Yeah, it's a lot of things coming together. It also has to do with what people expect of policing. You could argue that unarmed police patrolling the countryside and helping people is absolutely what police are supposed to do: a helping hand, protecting people, interfering if two people are having an argument, emergency response, that kind of thing. But in big cities, of course, police take on a very different role, and depending on the colour of your skin, you have a very different perception of what it is cops are doing.

But the whole organisation lacks accountability in any European country too. It's different from the US, and BLM protests take those local circumstances into account. For example, in Rotterdam, BLM protested after it became known that a large part of the Rotterdam police officers hold incredibly racist views, and those cops have not been sanctioned. So, they called for sanctions. So the view that it's all American import, with no account for local circumstances, is just wrong. Otherwise, the BLM movement would not have gained so much traction.

It's not surprising to see that you have absolutely no clue about how protests work, or in fact, why I took part in demonstrations.

You don't need to have an idea about anything to know that the huge, out-of-proportion nonsense drummed up via instagram, twitter and the snapchat "discover page" influenced events in the U.K.

And you probably took part in the protest because it's the socially acceptable and trendy thing to do.

I am a socialist with conviction, and I can tell you, actual socialism is not at all trendy. It's a dusty, 200 year old ideology. I took part because it is something I believe in.

But your ideology demands that I could not have made that choice willingly, somehow. I must have been deceived, or doing something trendy, or "white knighting" my way to a date.

But no, I am convinced that we need police reform, that there is systemic racism, and that there are a host of other issued that we need to take direct action on. I am doing what I think is right.

[Sungoldy-China]

Now the US has become a threat to democracy? The reason is simple: the wealth the US has plundered for so long is not enough to maintain democracy in other countries, instead the US needs to start plundering wealth again to maintain its own democracy as a luxury, so that it is back on the right path.

[Austreylia]

I am a socialist with conviction, and I can tell you, actual socialism is not at all trendy. It's a dusty, 200 year old ideology. I took part because it is something I believe in.

But your ideology demands that I could not have made that choice willingly, somehow. I must have been deceived, or doing something trendy, or "white knighting" my way to a date.

But no, I am convinced that we need police reform, that there is systemic racism, and that there are a host of other issued that we need to take direct action on. I am doing what I think is right.

There isn't systemic racism at all.

What you're doing isn't right, it's just trendy and socially acceptable to the gutter communities of reddit, twitter and NSG.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I am a socialist with conviction, and I can tell you, actual socialism is not at all trendy. It's a dusty, 200 year old ideology. I took part because it is something I believe in.

But your ideology demands that I could not have made that choice willingly, somehow. I must have been deceived, or doing something trendy, or "white knighting" my way to a date.

But no, I am convinced that we need police reform, that there is systemic racism, and that there are a host of other issued that we need to take direct action on. I am doing what I think is right.

There isn't systemic racism at all.

What you're doing isn't right, it's just trendy and socially acceptable to the gutter communities of reddit, twitter and NSG.

Pfew, good thing you know my motivations and opinions better then I do, otherwise, what would I have done?

If your worldview literally has to explain away the opinions of other people as to make them irrelevant, you really have a winner there, I must say.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I am a socialist with conviction, and I can tell you, actual socialism is not at all trendy. It's a dusty, 200 year old ideology. I took part because it is something I believe in.

But your ideology demands that I could not have made that choice willingly, somehow. I must have been deceived, or doing something trendy, or "white knighting" my way to a date.

But no, I am convinced that we need police reform, that there is systemic racism, and that there are a host of other issued that we need to take direct action on. I am doing what I think is right.

There isn't systemic racism at all.

What you're doing isn't right, it's just trendy and socially acceptable to the gutter communities of reddit, twitter and NSG.

You can't really argue against systemic racism though. Like, the numbers just aren't on your side.

[National Capitalist United States]

China is a far bigger threat... they invest in authoritarian countries, rig social media, and are currently suppressing Hongkongers.

If you think the US is a bigger threat then you are dead wrong.

"Suppression of Hongkongers" is an extreme oversimplification that ignores historical nuances related to colonisation, British propaganda, and how 'liberal democracies' only began to pay attention to the political situation following 1997. And maybe you should be seeing the US's rigging of social media, drone striking the Middle East and South Asia, investing in and selling arms to their authoritarian allies such as Saudi Arabia, and toppling every regime left of Thatcher they can find.

This is your brain on the CCP

[Illu-chi]

The person who made this topic needs to make a poll.

[Parxland]

At least it's not using gunboat diplomacy over fish