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Postby Risottia » Wed May 12, 2021 3:21 am

Political Geography wrote:
Risottia wrote:People tend to lack clarity while being assaulted.


People also lack clear memory of what happened around the time they were assaulted.

Recollections like "I swerved to avoid a moped" don't seem reliable to me.


Why? Do you routinely run mopeds over?
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Postby Austreylia » Wed May 12, 2021 3:40 am

Czarwijk wrote:Maybe the collapse of the USA is divine retribution.

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Postby Kubra » Wed May 12, 2021 3:48 am

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Yeah, there are some things about them I don't like either.

That you're particularly offended by spray-on cheese, though, suggests you are actually French.

There is no nationality, which does not suffer in one or another comparison. There's really nothing heroic about mocking Americans from the moral high-ground of LOL-not-American. Every nationality has something to be ashamed of.


1. I'm not French, just disgusted by the bastardization of food items, something the USA leads the world in.
2. While every nationality has something bad in its past, the Americans constantly terrorise people to this day on a massive scale far larger than any other people, and are either ignorant/supportive of it. They shrug at it and say its for reasons of "national security" or defending "our greatest ally" etc. Their culture is also perverted and has infected nearly every society on this world in some way shape or form, and is used as a weapon to topple legitimate governments. Maybe the collapse of the USA is divine retribution.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Wed May 12, 2021 7:45 am

I hope these idiot's enjoy prison. It might be legal to open carry in Portland (not sure) but it is definitely illegal to point a gun at a person unless they are an immediate threat to someones life.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed May 12, 2021 8:05 am

Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-

It appears that some far-leftists enforcing their own law there or trying to at least.
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Postby Arisyan » Wed May 12, 2021 8:16 am

Honestly Portland and Oregon are anarchic battlegrounds between ANTIFA lefties in the west and Proud Boys extremists in the east.
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Postby Sengoku Americas » Wed May 12, 2021 8:19 am

Czarwijk wrote:2. While every nationality has something bad in its past, the Americans constantly terrorise people to this day on a massive scale far larger than any other people, and are either ignorant/supportive of it. They shrug at it and say its for reasons of "national security" or defending "our greatest ally" etc. Their culture is also perverted and has infected nearly every society on this world in some way shape or form, and is used as a weapon to topple legitimate governments. Maybe the collapse of the USA is divine retribution.


Your first sentence is accurate and describes how the US is the greatest thread to democracy and freedom in the world, but there's no need to wish ill upon ordinary American citizens.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... lobal-poll
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/99375439 ... 0832788646
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed May 12, 2021 8:21 am

Arisyan wrote:Honestly Portland and Oregon are anarchic battlegrounds between ANTIFA lefties in the west and Proud Boys extremists in the east.

The proud boys might be a fascist gang, but people need to know that Antifa isn't good either. Any movement can give itself a humble name and pretend to be riotous. Portland has right-wing agitators going to cause problems, and native left-wing extremists thinking they have the right to set up checkpoints.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed May 12, 2021 9:41 am

Czarwijk wrote:Portland is just Baghdad at this point, as soon will be most cities in America.

Weimerica Inshallah :rofl:


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed May 12, 2021 9:42 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Arisyan wrote:Honestly Portland and Oregon are anarchic battlegrounds between ANTIFA lefties in the west and Proud Boys extremists in the east.

The proud boys might be a fascist gang, but people need to know that Antifa isn't good either. Any movement can give itself a humble name and pretend to be riotous. Portland has right-wing agitators going to cause problems, and native left-wing extremists thinking they have the right to set up checkpoints.


In theory antifa is ideal. In practice the Rose City Antifa acts alot less libertarian left than they claim to be.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed May 12, 2021 10:33 am

Czarwijk wrote:Portland is just Baghdad at this point, as soon will be most cities in America.

Weimerica Inshallah :rofl:


Ever been to Baghdad? We're doing fine in comparison.
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Postby Adamede » Wed May 12, 2021 12:56 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Czarwijk wrote:Portland is just Baghdad at this point, as soon will be most cities in America.

Weimerica Inshallah :rofl:

And when that happens, people are going to start having to answer for their crimes.

That’s not how mob “justice” works. Instead it’s just a lot of rapes and murderers and looting and shit.

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Postby Atheris » Wed May 12, 2021 1:01 pm

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You know what.

I will agree to Canada annexing all of America if we can give the new country a cool name.

The United Continental States of Arcadia is my vote. :DDDDD

The question is, would they form Arcadia using Vinland, Plantagenia or the Belgian Confederacy?

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed May 12, 2021 1:53 pm

Wow that was fast, barely a short time after creating their own police force they already have their first time of police abuse by the anti-police police.

Maybe giving people guns and a position of authority leads to people acting like dicks with said authority?
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 12, 2021 1:55 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Wow that was fast, barely a short time after creating their own police force they already have their first time of police abuse by the anti-police police.

Maybe giving people guns and a position of authority leads to people acting like dicks with said authority?


No shit. Its not like anyone could ever have predicted this?

The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was a social psychology experiment that attempted to investigate the psychological effects of perceived power, focusing on the struggle between prisoners and prison officers. It was conducted at Stanford University on the days of August 14–20, 1971, by a research group of college students led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo.[1] In the study, volunteers were assigned to be either "guards" or "prisoners" by the flip of a coin, in a mock prison, with Zimbardo himself serving as the superintendent. Several "prisoners" left mid-experiment, and the whole experiment was abandoned after six days. Early reports on experimental results claimed that students quickly embraced their assigned roles, with some guards enforcing authoritarian measures and ultimately subjecting some prisoners to psychological torture, while many prisoners passively accepted psychological abuse and, by the officers' requests, actively harassed other prisoners who tried to stop it. The experiment has been described in many introductory social psychology textbooks,[2] although some have chosen to exclude it because its methodology is sometimes questioned.[3]

The U.S. Office of Naval Research[4] funded the experiment as an investigation into the causes of difficulties between guards and prisoners in the United States Navy and United States Marine Corps. Certain portions of it were filmed, and excerpts of footage are publicly available.

The experiment's findings have been called into question, and the experiment has been criticized for unscientific methodology.[5] Although Zimbardo interpreted the experiment as having shown that the "prison guards" instinctively embraced sadistic and authoritarian behaviors, Zimbardo actually instructed the "guards" to exert psychological control over the "prisoners". Critics also noted that some of the participants behaved in a way that would help the study, so that, as one "guard" later put it, "the researchers would have something to work with," which is known as demand characteristics. Variants of the experiment have been performed by other researchers, but none of these attempts have replicated the results of the SPE.[6]


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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed May 12, 2021 2:01 pm

Normally I would say that I can't wait to see these sorts of assholes brought to justice, but knowing the current state of affairs up and down the West Coast right now, I'm shocked these violent terrorists haven't been publicly given medals yet for this incident. Yet another reason why in situations like this you just don't stop the vehicle.

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I hope these idiot's enjoy prison. It might be legal to open carry in Portland (not sure) but it is definitely illegal to point a gun at a person unless they are an immediate threat to someones life.


While statewide it technically is legal to open carry, several cities, including Portland have local ordinances that make it illegal to open carry a loaded firearm in any public space.Which is pretty much how they get around the law and allow for pretty much a defacto ban.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed May 12, 2021 2:41 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I hope these idiot's enjoy prison. It might be legal to open carry in Portland (not sure) but it is definitely illegal to point a gun at a person unless they are an immediate threat to someones life.

I don't think the local justice system is capable of taking a stand against far-left extremists.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed May 12, 2021 2:53 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:I hope these idiot's enjoy prison. It might be legal to open carry in Portland (not sure) but it is definitely illegal to point a gun at a person unless they are an immediate threat to someones life.

I don't think the local justice system is capable of taking a stand against far-left extremists.

It does, all the time. Leftist protesters get teargassed and beaten by cops all the time too, then people freak out when they get mad about it
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed May 12, 2021 2:59 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I don't think the local justice system is capable of taking a stand against far-left extremists.

It does, all the time. Leftist protesters get teargassed and beaten by cops all the time too, then people freak out when they get mad about it

These people should go to prison for at least twenty years, but they probably won't see a day in prison. Low hanging fruit of the left getting teargassed changes nothing.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed May 12, 2021 3:18 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:It does, all the time. Leftist protesters get teargassed and beaten by cops all the time too, then people freak out when they get mad about it

These people should go to prison for at least twenty years, but they probably won't see a day in prison. Low hanging fruit of the left getting teargassed changes nothing.

They'll go to prison if they're identified.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu May 13, 2021 10:52 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:These people should go to prison for at least twenty years, but they probably won't see a day in prison. Low hanging fruit of the left getting teargassed changes nothing.

They'll go to prison if they're identified.

Not enough. I cannot stand Trump, but I'm for putting federal agents back into the city.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu May 13, 2021 10:59 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:They'll go to prison if they're identified.

Not enough. I cannot stand Trump, but I'm for putting federal agents back into the city.


Hell the fuck no. The DHS acted like Jack boot thugs last time they were there. They need to stay out till there's more oversight of what they do and their agents act like an American security agency and not the Stasi. We don't need more moms and marine vets being brutalized in Portland.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu May 13, 2021 11:09 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Not enough. I cannot stand Trump, but I'm for putting federal agents back into the city.


Hell the fuck no. The DHS acted like Jack boot thugs last time they were there. They need to stay out till there's more oversight of what they do and their agents act like an American security agency and not the Stasi. We don't need more moms and marine vets being brutalized in Portland.

We can get the Feds to abide by codes of conduct. These rioters are a different story.
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Postby Illu-chi » Thu May 13, 2021 1:50 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:They'll go to prison if they're identified.

Not enough. I cannot stand Trump, but I'm for putting federal agents back into the city.

The federal agents never left actually. Dhs agents came out of the courthouse in Portland a couple of weeks ago because of Derek chauvins trial to do riot control, so they are still there.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu May 13, 2021 2:07 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Hell the fuck no. The DHS acted like Jack boot thugs last time they were there. They need to stay out till there's more oversight of what they do and their agents act like an American security agency and not the Stasi. We don't need more moms and marine vets being brutalized in Portland.

We can get the Feds to abide by codes of conduct. These rioters are a different story.

They failed last time they were here enforcing stuff on the streets.
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