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Postby Lanoraie II » Thu May 13, 2021 4:06 pm

Setting up "checkpoints" like this is not political activism; it is terrorism and self-congratulating absurdity that is going to get them shot sooner or later, and when it does happen, I'm really going to struggle to care. You cannot, in your right mind, do this to people. This solves nothing, it doesn't make any valid points in an argument, and furthermore nobody should have to listen to your trite when you have a gun to their head and are threatening them.
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Postby Lanoraie II » Thu May 13, 2021 4:13 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-

Proud Boys and other right wing groups/militias are trying to "Reclaim the State" especially in rural areas.

Oregon for most of its history has been pretty fucking racist, even going so far as to enact laws that made it illegal for non-white people to live here. Well, around the time of The Civil Right's Movement, most of the racists in power got kicked out/exiled to Idaho, Montana, etc...

Well, they of course didn't like this, and with the rise of Trumpism in 2015/2016, a lot of right-wing groups have been testing the waters and are trying to turn Oregon from Blue to Red, something they think it should always have been. It's especially bad in rural areas. For example, during the wildfires, cops were allowing right-wing militia groups to pull over and attack evacuees who they think "Had ties to ANTIFA." They also believed that ANTIFA started the wildfires to begin with, for some reason.

This is why Portland has kind of been a hotbed for riots, because the people there, especially younger ones, aren't willing to put up with the Proud Boys and Militia bullshit. A lot of people just focus on the rioters, but not what they're rioting against. (That being, Proud Boys and other right wing groups running around the state trying to cause shit)


You didn't even watch the video, did you. You cannot in your right mind claim that "m-muh nazis!!!!" are the problem in this video. These are extremist left wing FASCISTS trying to destroy a community because they're all narcissists. You might be one too since you clearly feel related to these people, and thus won't hold them accountable for ASSAULTING a man. Like, are you even hearing yourself? You're fucking telling me these psychotic terrorists are poor innocent wittle babies who are fighting against fascism? The proud boys didn't start this shit, they had very little to do with it, in fact. Right wingers didn't start ANY of it.
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Postby Illu-chi » Thu May 13, 2021 4:52 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:We can get the Feds to abide by codes of conduct. These rioters are a different story.

They failed last time they were here enforcing stuff on the streets.

How did they fail? Also a lot of dhs agents are still there just chilling.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:I don't think the local justice system is capable of taking a stand against far-left extremists.

It does, all the time. Leftist protesters get teargassed and beaten by cops all the time too, then people freak out when they get mad about it

Teargassing and beating people is much easier to do than to bring someone to trial. That's why the police do that instead of arresting protesters.

It's also cheaper.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Thu May 13, 2021 6:49 pm

Don't get out of the vehicle. Stay in there with the windows up and call 911. Don't pull a weapon unless you absolutely intend to use it, then use it.

I get it, the guy was a Marine. Marines run towards the danger and all that. But if he'd just stayed in his truck instead of getting out to confront the crowd, he probably wouldn't have lost his keys and multiple firearms which are now in the hands of God knows who.

As an aside, Paul Harrell did a piece on which handguns were suitable for dealing with mob violence once. He said a large magazine was preferable in situations where people are getting accosted in vehicles by rioters intent on dragging them out of their cars. I scoffed at that and said it doesn't happen in this country...
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Postby Nakena » Fri May 14, 2021 6:01 am

Getting anywhere close to such kind of situation is what you want avoid at all cost. Smart move would be to turn around when something like that comes up, and/or leave the situation asap. To which, in my understanding he had a possibility.

However, the poor boomer dude probably thought this is America and he has his rights and what not and something like checkpoint isn't a thing in the US.

Unfortunatly for him, the times have changed.

Possibly the National Guard should be deployed to deterrent either Antifa or Proud Boys etc from showing up. If the environment in Portland is no longer friendly to those people, they move to other locations.
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Fri May 14, 2021 6:22 am

oh shit here we go
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 14, 2021 7:26 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Why did they pull over a random truck driver and scream at him that he was a nazi? A nazi for what, avoiding some guy on a moped?


If you know anything about how gangs operate, jumping motorists is standard procedure.

Calling him a Nazi gives them moral justification to carry out their crimes.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri May 14, 2021 7:29 am

I would invoke the insurrection act.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 14, 2021 7:29 am

New haven america wrote:
Drongonia wrote:So forget about the rioters literally beating the shit out of someone for no reason... because le nazis amirite guys???

Yes yes, we know how difficult arguing in good faith can be.

Tis schtick got old a decade ago.


Can you stop making shit up
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Postby Kubra » Fri May 14, 2021 7:30 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Why did they pull over a random truck driver and scream at him that he was a nazi? A nazi for what, avoiding some guy on a moped?


If you know anything about how gangs operate, jumping motorists is standard procedure.

Calling him a Nazi gives them moral justification to carry out their crimes.
Or, more than likely, they were protestors who, as is the case these days, were twitchy regarding motorists and thus wildly overreacted.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 14, 2021 7:31 am

Kubra wrote:
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If you know anything about how gangs operate, jumping motorists is standard procedure.

Calling him a Nazi gives them moral justification to carry out their crimes.
Or, more than likely, they were protestors who, as is the case these days, were twitchy regarding motorists and thus wildly overreacted.


No, they're just criminals.
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Postby Kubra » Fri May 14, 2021 7:34 am

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Kubra wrote: Or, more than likely, they were protestors who, as is the case these days, were twitchy regarding motorists and thus wildly overreacted.


No, they're just criminals.
You're a criminal. I have it on good authority (my own) that your posts are grand cover up for a Gamecube counterfeiting scheme. Or, like, something.
Boy, wasn't that an informative and incisive post of mine?
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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Fri May 14, 2021 7:42 am

Sadly, I am not surprised this. As much as it pains me to say this (since I am half-black), BLM has become less and less respectable of a movement over the past year. It was supposed to be about promoting peace, justice, and racial coexistence. Now, they have largely become another version of Antifa :(

I really feel bad for that guy. It sounds like he was targeted just for being white. Exactly the kind of thing we are supposed to be fighting against.

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Postby Nakena » Fri May 14, 2021 7:43 am

A lot of those "Antifa" types are filling themself up with moral superiority complex like other people getting high on a line of coke.

Hate me but thats the truth and thats the problem with a lot of those.

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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Fri May 14, 2021 7:44 am

Nakena wrote:A lot of those "Antifa" types are filling themself up with moral superiority complex like other people getting high on a line of coke.

Hate me but thats the truth and thats the problem with a lot of those.


The truth is the truth. Nothing we can do but accept it. To do anything else is pure stupidity.

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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Fri May 14, 2021 7:47 am

New haven america wrote:
Kowani wrote:...a checkpoint???
the fuck is going on up there-

Proud Boys and other right wing groups/militias are trying to "Reclaim the State" especially in rural areas.

Oregon for most of its history has been pretty fucking racist, even going so far as to enact laws that made it illegal for non-white people to live here. Well, around the time of The Civil Right's Movement, most of the racists in power got kicked out/exiled to Idaho, Montana, etc...

Well, they of course didn't like this, and with the rise of Trumpism in 2015/2016, a lot of right-wing groups have been testing the waters and are trying to turn Oregon from Blue to Red, something they think it should always have been. It's especially bad in rural areas. For example, during the wildfires, cops were allowing right-wing militia groups to pull over and attack evacuees who they think "Had ties to ANTIFA." They also believed that ANTIFA started the wildfires to begin with, for some reason.

This is why Portland has kind of been a hotbed for riots, because the people there, especially younger ones, aren't willing to put up with the Proud Boys and Militia bullshit. A lot of people just focus on the rioters, but not what they're rioting against. (That being, Proud Boys and other right wing groups running around the state trying to cause shit)


Yeah, and they fight for their cause by beating up random innocent people and pillaging stores and houses.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri May 14, 2021 7:48 am

Kubra wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
If you know anything about how gangs operate, jumping motorists is standard procedure.

Calling him a Nazi gives them moral justification to carry out their crimes.
Or, more than likely, they were protestors who, as is the case these days, were twitchy regarding motorists and thus wildly overreacted.


They beat an innocent man up. That isn't just an overreaction.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri May 14, 2021 7:48 am

Nakena wrote:A lot of those "Antifa" types are filling themself up with moral superiority complex like other people getting high on a line of coke.

Hate me but thats the truth and thats the problem with a lot of those.


Alot of them seem to have a white savior complex too.
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Postby Dess Myzkolanslaty » Fri May 14, 2021 7:51 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nakena wrote:A lot of those "Antifa" types are filling themself up with moral superiority complex like other people getting high on a line of coke.

Hate me but thats the truth and thats the problem with a lot of those.


Alot of them seem to have a white savior complex too.


How ironic.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 14, 2021 7:51 am

Kubra wrote:
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No, they're just criminals.
You're a criminal. I have it on good authority (my own) that your posts are grand cover up for a Gamecube counterfeiting scheme. Or, like, something.
Boy, wasn't that an informative and incisive post of mine?


We have pretty clear evidence of them jumping someone. Why are you excusing it?
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Postby Kubra » Fri May 14, 2021 7:55 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kubra wrote: Or, more than likely, they were protestors who, as is the case these days, were twitchy regarding motorists and thus wildly overreacted.


They beat an innocent man up. That isn't just an overreaction.
That's actually pretty mild, speaking frankly. Being in a crowd tends to take away certain faculties that would otherwise be present. When crowds aren't strictly managed and organised, internally or externally, this sort of occurrence is frankly typical.
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Postby Kubra » Fri May 14, 2021 7:55 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kubra wrote: You're a criminal. I have it on good authority (my own) that your posts are grand cover up for a Gamecube counterfeiting scheme. Or, like, something.
Boy, wasn't that an informative and incisive post of mine?


We have pretty clear evidence of them jumping someone. Why are you excusing it?
I'm not "excusing" it, I'm explaining it.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 14, 2021 8:00 am

Kubra wrote:
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We have pretty clear evidence of them jumping someone. Why are you excusing it?
I'm not "excusing" it, I'm explaining it.


You compared it to making up a crime about Gamecube conferfeiting.
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Postby Kubra » Fri May 14, 2021 8:01 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kubra wrote: I'm not "excusing" it, I'm explaining it.


You compared it to making up a crime about Gamecube conferfeiting.
"If you know anything about how gangs operate, jumping motorists is standard procedure."
It takes two to tango, you know?
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