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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
by Suriyanakhon
Herzpunkt wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
It might be a bit difficult because while some Hindu deities have counterparts in other Indo-European pantheons (such as Indra), most temples nowadays are devoted to ones who don't (such as Shiva, Vishnu, or Durga).


When i get a house ill probably buy a barn and convert it into a temple


That would be a good idea. Since I can't afford an altar right now, I usually research genealogy and make donations to make merit for ancestral spirits.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:16 pm
by Joohan
Just-An-Illusion wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There is a good concept called science, I think all people should use it. The more I see other religions, the more I feel happy that I am weak agonstic again.


While I'm not Pagan... Why did you feel the need to come into this thread and start saying people should believe in science?

That's like going into the Christian and Islam thread saying that everyone should believe in science for no reason.


Atheism, for all it's lack of faith, sure has a lot of evangelists.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:21 pm
by Suriyanakhon
Joohan wrote:
Just-An-Illusion wrote:
While I'm not Pagan... Why did you feel the need to come into this thread and start saying people should believe in science?

That's like going into the Christian and Islam thread saying that everyone should believe in science for no reason.


Atheism, for all it's lack of faith, sure has a lot of evangelists.


Because atheism in North America has a very specific and rigid philosophy built on positivism and rationalism, as well as a grudge against evangelicalism which ironically ends up imitating it.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:23 pm
by Herzpunkt
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Atheism, for all it's lack of faith, sure has a lot of evangelists.


Because atheism in North America has a very specific and rigid philosophy built on positivism and rationalism, as well as a grudge against evangelicalism which ironically ends up imitating it.


Truth

My brother is a militant athiest and makes sure i know it

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:30 pm
by Joohan
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Atheism, for all it's lack of faith, sure has a lot of evangelists.


Because atheism in North America has a very specific and rigid philosophy built on positivism and rationalism, as well as a grudge against evangelicalism which ironically ends up imitating it.


I blame Ayn Rand and Martin Luther ( the monk, not the cool black dude )

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:32 pm
by Odreria
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
When i get a house ill probably buy a barn and convert it into a temple


That would be a good idea. Since I can't afford an altar right now, I usually research genealogy and make donations to make merit for ancestral spirits.

Could you expand on what it means to make merit for ancestral spirits?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:40 pm
by Suriyanakhon
Odreria wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
That would be a good idea. Since I can't afford an altar right now, I usually research genealogy and make donations to make merit for ancestral spirits.

Could you expand on what it means to make merit for ancestral spirits?


Portions of karmic merit which are made from good deeds can be devoted to deceased loved ones who are in the ghost world and allow them to be reborn in heaven.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:01 pm
by Nevertopia
question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:08 pm
by Herzpunkt
Nevertopia wrote:question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?


Depends on the person, Odin is my patron diety though i accept all thr Aesir/Vanir.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:16 pm
by Nevertopia
Herzpunkt wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?


Depends on the person, Odin is my patron diety though i accept all thr Aesir/Vanir.

how accurate is the depiction of thor in the avengers?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:16 pm
by Wink Wonk We Like Stonks
Nevertopia wrote:question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?

everyone's in their own circle, but i've probably seen the most about hellenistic gods and wicca, but that's definitely influenced by where i was looking

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:18 pm
by Odreria
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Odreria wrote:Could you expand on what it means to make merit for ancestral spirits?


Portions of karmic merit which are made from good deeds can be devoted to deceased loved ones who are in the ghost world and allow them to be reborn in heaven.

Thank you

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:19 pm
by Riviere Renard
My mother and I where filling out the Canada census and it got to religions and I froze. I'd been hiding my (very mild) paganism for a long time now, and, while I am willing to lie to my family, I am not willing to lie to the government. After a long discussion (in which she doubted my faith to my face) she put down pagan, nothing more specific than that. Interestingly, she took a much longer time trying to figure out what to put for herself, but that is not relevant.

Since then I've had a boost in confidence, despite my «unorthodox» beliefs.

On that topic, I consider my self primarily Roman. I heard, and this may be misinformation, that the Romans believed that foreign gods were just as real as Roman ones, and that has been a sticking point for me. I am currently trying my best to synchronize most foreign polytheist ideas into my beliefs from a Roman perspective because I cannot believe that one culture is the only one to know truth about the gods. Sometimes I feel bad, that I am participating in cultural appropriation and I try my best to be careful. I actually consider Amaterasu, a Japanese deity, to be one of the most important (I am trying to clarify the line between her and Apollo).

I don't think the gods have real names, nor do I think one way of worship is better than another. They appreciate worship, whatever form it comes in. I know more about the Roman way so that is what I practice, to the pest of my abilities.

I also have tried my best to assimilate the Japanese idea of Kami and the First Nations idea of a spiritual connection to the land and to nature. Shamanism and Animism are very interesting and has had a noticeable benefit for my mental health. I feel more important and connected than before. I really want to learn more but that has proven difficult.

I have faith but I wouldn't say I necessarily believe anything. I practice because it brings me patience and tranquility. It makes me feel better to at least pretend to be heard by a higher power, or Kami, or anything; weather I believe this is not the point for me. That is why I consider myself atheist sometimes. But, in general, I am pagan, because that is the faith I express.

Frankly, I have a lot learn. That is what I love most about these so-called lost religions.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:21 pm
by Suriyanakhon
Nevertopia wrote:question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?


Phra Phrom, Phra In, and Phra Athit.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:24 pm
by Herzpunkt
Nevertopia wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Depends on the person, Odin is my patron diety though i accept all thr Aesir/Vanir.

how accurate is the depiction of thor in the avengers?


Meh, decently accurate except for the silly costumes/props and Thor is a red head not a Blonde.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:28 pm
by Just-An-Illusion
Herzpunkt wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:how accurate is the depiction of thor in the avengers?


Meh, decently accurate except for the silly costumes/props and Thor is a red head not a Blonde.


How accurate is God Of War 4?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:28 pm
by Herzpunkt
Just-An-Illusion wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Meh, decently accurate except for the silly costumes/props and Thor is a red head not a Blonde.


How accurate is God Of War 4?


I never played

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:40 pm
by Joohan
Herzpunkt wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:question for the polytheistic thread, which gods are considered the big names in these circles?


Depends on the person, Odin is my patron diety though i accept all thr Aesir/Vanir.


As a German, wouldn't it be Wotan?

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:57 pm
by Herzpunkt
Joohan wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Depends on the person, Odin is my patron diety though i accept all thr Aesir/Vanir.


As a German, wouldn't it be Wotan?


Same gods, i speak english and Odin is easier for me, i dont think language matters.

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 10:04 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Just-An-Illusion wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Meh, decently accurate except for the silly costumes/props and Thor is a red head not a Blonde.


How accurate is God Of War 4?


Not at all, but it's really dope and extremely well written.

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:27 am
by Herzpunkt
You guys should watch the procession of pharaohs that happend in Egypt, it was beutifal

Not to mention egypt is building a city with a big nod towards ancient egyptian style

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:44 am
by Lady Victory
Riviere Renard wrote:On that topic, I consider my self primarily Roman. I heard, and this may be misinformation, that the Romans believed that foreign gods were just as real as Roman ones, and that has been a sticking point for me. I am currently trying my best to synchronize most foreign polytheist ideas into my beliefs from a Roman perspective because I cannot believe that one culture is the only one to know truth about the gods. Sometimes I feel bad, that I am participating in cultural appropriation and I try my best to be careful.


This is what you're referring to, I believe?

The Greeks and Romans often did try to compare foreign deities to their own. Thor, for example, was interpreted as either Jupiter or Hercules by the Romans due to the similarities he possessed with both figures. 'Same god, different name' was how they approached it.

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:51 am
by Nakena
Herzpunkt wrote:You guys should watch the procession of pharaohs that happend in Egypt, it was beutifal

Not to mention egypt is building a city with a big nod towards ancient egyptian style


I did! It was quite impressive. Its nice to see that they care about their culture. Lets hope it will go beyond that ceremony tho.

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 3:20 pm
by Herzpunkt
Nakena wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:You guys should watch the procession of pharaohs that happend in Egypt, it was beutifal

Not to mention egypt is building a city with a big nod towards ancient egyptian style


I did! It was quite impressive. Its nice to see that they care about their culture. Lets hope it will go beyond that ceremony tho.


The return of their ancient gods would be a breath of fresh air

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 3:54 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki
Herzpunkt wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I did! It was quite impressive. Its nice to see that they care about their culture. Lets hope it will go beyond that ceremony tho.


The return of their ancient gods would be a breath of fresh air


I wouldn’t mind seeing a resurgence of the worship to Bastet. Then again, I like cats so I’m sure I’m biased.