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Will yall cool it with the faith baiting, jesus christ

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:

Shofercia wrote:
Probably because most Americans vote on the basis of economy, and not on the basis of religion. If only we had the evidence: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... -election/

Respondents don't always tell the truth. If it's about the economy, why did Trump win the GOP Primary while Sanders lost the Dem one?

Because Democrat primaries engaged in shenanigans, and Republican primaries did not. Numerous Democrats, who mysteriously ended up in Biden's cabinet, ended up dropping out, while Sanders had to contend with Warren, but this thread isn't one to debate how to make primaries work better in the US. I should note that as a result of those shenanigans, more Americans want a third party than ever before: https://news.gallup.com/poll/329639/sup ... point.aspx

62% say a third party is needed, up from 57% in September
Highest support for a third party by one percentage point

Shofercia wrote:

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:So the constant votes for the same politicans pushing those policies coming from the most religious districts sounds like one giant coincidence to you, huh?

Probably because most Americans vote on the basis of economy, and not on the basis of religion. If only we had the evidence: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... -election/

With the country in the midst of a recession, nearly eight-in-ten registered voters (79%) say the economy will be very important to them in making their decision about who to vote for in the 2020 presidential election – the top issue of 12 included in the survey.

a point here
when people say "the economy", they don't all mean the same thing
some of them mean their personal economic status
but especially for GOP voters, their view of the economy is heavily racialized (partisanship is a cofounder for both parties, and i'm too lazy to try and untangle it right now)

I can't help but notice the article doesn't provide a source for the supposed claim that a mosque is built every two weeks. It seems unlikely considering the size of France's Muslim population. As for the churches disappearing, as the article itself says, the churches disappearing every two weeks are due to a number of things, including demolition, collapse and transformation. Things like this happen all the time when a building is old and possibly unused; that's just the way it is, and churches aren't exceptions.

Shofercia wrote:Because Democrat primaries engaged in shenanigans, and Republican primaries did not. Numerous Democrats, who mysteriously ended up in Biden's cabinet, ended up dropping out, while Sanders had to contend with Warren, but this thread isn't one to debate how to make primaries work better in the US. I should note that as a result of those shenanigans, more Americans want a third party than ever before: https://news.gallup.com/poll/329639/sup ... point.aspx

62% say a third party is needed, up from 57% in September
Highest support for a third party by one percentage point

Based US voters

Shofercia wrote:

GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Respondents don't always tell the truth. If it's about the economy, why did Trump win the GOP Primary while Sanders lost the Dem one?

Because Democrat primaries engaged in shenanigans, and Republican primaries did not. Numerous Democrats, who mysteriously ended up in Biden's cabinet, ended up dropping out, while Sanders had to contend with Warren, but this thread isn't one to debate how to make primaries work better in the US. I should note that as a result of those shenanigans, more Americans want a third party than ever before: https://news.gallup.com/poll/329639/sup ... point.aspx

62% say a third party is needed, up from 57% in September
Highest support for a third party by one percentage point

"The primaries were rigged because Bernie didnt win"

Everybody drink.

Kowani wrote:It's very odd how the actual organization this guy works for, the Observatoire du Patrimoine Religieux does not actually have any analysis to back up this claim

In fact, searching their site for the word "mosquée" (mosque in french) doesn't come up with anyything more recent than 2013, and many of those don't even deal with France.

Hm
I wonder where this data came from

Now I am disappointed. I was impressed with the scheduling. Thats a hell of a timeline to coordinate, from both sides of the project plans

I'm not sure that this is true.

Nilokeras wrote:Quite the reach OP. Couldn't possibly have to do with the fact that the majority of the churches that fall victim to vandalism are old and probably disused in depopulated mostly Christian and white parts of France rather than some sinister plot by the Moslems.

It's a real shame since there's actually an interesting angle about how modern neoliberal governments habitually underfund the preservation of heritage buildings but you decided to go with the most boring angle possible.

It seems that the vast majority of reactionaries and conservatives alike refuse to target the neoliberal policies of modern governments in favour of conjuring up a bogeyman that is 'coincidentally' a group of people who are from either a differant religious background or race.

Vassenor wrote:

Shofercia wrote:
Because Democrat primaries engaged in shenanigans, and Republican primaries did not. Numerous Democrats, who mysteriously ended up in Biden's cabinet, ended up dropping out, while Sanders had to contend with Warren, but this thread isn't one to debate how to make primaries work better in the US. I should note that as a result of those shenanigans, more Americans want a third party than ever before: https://news.gallup.com/poll/329639/sup ... point.aspx

"The primaries were rigged because Bernie didnt win"

Everybody drink.

During the Rams-Saints game, a single controversial, and rather bullshit referee call sent the Rams to the Super Bowl. That doesn't mean that the game was rigged from the beginning, Vass. Perhaps we should all take a drink when you completely misinterpret a post that you're responding to, eh?

Grand Proudhonia wrote:Will yall cool it with the faith baiting, jesus christ

That's NSG for ya every time a thread about religion pops up it devolves into debates between either Christians vs Muslims or Christians & Muslims vs Radical Atheists.

Mans out here using "catholicnewsagency.com" as his source, this man has an intellect higher than any of us will ever have. I aspire to this level of intelligence, and weep every night knowing it will not come/s

Just-An-Illusion wrote:

Grand Proudhonia wrote:Will yall cool it with the faith baiting, jesus christ

That's NSG for ya every time a thread about religion pops up it devolves into debates between either Christians vs Muslims or Christians & Muslims vs Radical Atheists.

We all have our convictions, no?

I do not buy this argument. This reads like theocratic propaganda.

Sounds fake. Besides, wasn’t there a French mosque that was set on fire a few weeks ago? Or am I mistaken?

Just-An-Illusion wrote:

Grand Proudhonia wrote:Will yall cool it with the faith baiting, jesus christ

That's NSG for ya every time a thread about religion pops up it devolves into debates between either Christians vs Muslims or Christians & Muslims vs Radical Atheists.

Or Christians vs anti-theists
Or atheists vs all religions
Or Scientologists vs Pastafarians

Xmara wrote:Sounds fake. Besides, wasn’t there a French mosque that was set on fire a few weeks ago? Or am I mistaken?

Just-An-Illusion wrote:
That's NSG for ya every time a thread about religion pops up it devolves into debates between either Christians vs Muslims or Christians & Muslims vs Radical Atheists.

Or Christians vs anti-theists
Or atheists vs all religions
Or Scientologists vs Pastafarians

Damn Zoroastrians! They ruined Zoroastrianism!

Xmara wrote:Sounds fake. Besides, wasn’t there a French mosque that was set on fire a few weeks ago? Or am I mistaken?

Just-An-Illusion wrote:
That's NSG for ya every time a thread about religion pops up it devolves into debates between either Christians vs Muslims or Christians & Muslims vs Radical Atheists.

Or Christians vs anti-theists
Or atheists vs all religions
Or Scientologists vs Pastafarians

Wait there's scientologists on this website?

Since this is all over the place I lock.