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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 08, 2021 10:55 pm

A Salmon Named Harold wrote:The Lone Alliance I feel like getting shot to death or asphyxiated is a global problem. I would like to imagine people in third world countries see getting murdered as a problem

There's a difference between being shot to death or asphyxiated by criminals, terrorists, bandits, or cartels, and being shot to death or asphyxiated by the law enforcement officers that are supposed to be protecting you.

At the very least if you're shot to death or asphyxiated by the former, everyone accepts that it's a crime, but for a long while a lot of times the latter got "Well then they must have done something to deserve it".

At least until now, at this point BLM has pretty much successfully convinced most people that the latter is wrong and at this point of the people who won't be convinced, nothing is going to convince them.
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Postby A Salmon Named Harold » Sat May 08, 2021 11:01 pm

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A Salmon Named Harold wrote:The Lone Alliance I feel like getting shot to death or asphyxiated is a global problem. I would like to imagine people in third world countries see getting murdered as a problem

There's a difference between being shot to death or asphyxiated by terrorists, or bandits, or cartels, and being shot to death or asphyxiated by the law enforcement officers that are supposed to be protecting you.


Didn't think about the specific people inflicting those crimes, my bad dude.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 08, 2021 11:03 pm

A Salmon Named Harold wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:There's a difference between being shot to death or asphyxiated by terrorists, or bandits, or cartels, and being shot to death or asphyxiated by the law enforcement officers that are supposed to be protecting you.


Didn't think about the specific people inflicting those crimes, my bad dude.

It's all good.
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Postby Vikanias » Sat May 08, 2021 11:09 pm

Honestly I could care less if these got banned, after all its the Olympics not a BLM rally
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Postby Vikanias » Sat May 08, 2021 11:21 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Honestly. Why the fuck do we even need those corrupt jerks in the IOC?

Why don't we just do our own Olympics? We'd actually get more use out of the Olympics stadiums instead of just using them when the Olympics decides to give us the gift of letting them shit on a city, take our money, and wreck a city for a week.


I only have a problem with the “why don’t we do our own olympics”

1. How are you going to get the workers
2. How are you going to pay the workers
3. Where are you going to get the money to pay the workers
4. How are you going to all the athletes
5. How the hell are you going to enforce the rules
6. What will you get to attract guests
7. How much will it cost to build the new stadium
8. How Will you get sponsors to earn revenue
9. where are you going to advertise the Olympics
10. How will you pay to get thise ads up
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Postby Vikanias » Sat May 08, 2021 11:28 pm

Political Geography wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:"Third World best World" - Tito, Gaddafi, Nasser, Castro


Wow, is that a dumb swing. I don't think ANY of those countries were technically third world when their dictators were done with them.

Few people in the third world NOW care about woke culture. Maybe answer that rather than what you thought you saw on the page?


Cuba’s economy is still garbage after Castro died
Libya is in a fucking civil war for christs sakes
Tito left Yugoslavia pretty in the middle but after a while a decade war started
I don’t know much about Nasser so eh
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Postby Vikanias » Sat May 08, 2021 11:35 pm

Political Geography wrote:
Austreylia wrote:No, because that's what countries use to represent themselves.


Yes, because countries deserve no recognition nor reward. Countries basically play the role of Mega Sponsor to athletes, training them and getting them to the Games, and it completely debases the event.

Why should an Australian who was kind of good at discus in year 8, get offered free training and special arrangements for school, because he/she might win a medal? Do we do that for kids who are good at art?

Why should a Venezualan kid who was equally good at discus in year 8, get no more than encouragement from a teacher because he/she "might be good at it some day"?

The Soviets started this shit of talent-scouting kids in school. It's profoundly un-individual and thus, profoundly un-Olympic.


BLM is a solely political statement, and an awful one at that, considering their role in the entire summer of riots in the U.S.


The entire US team were forced to boycott the 1980 Olympics, to protest the Soviet invasion of ... wait for it ... Afghanistan. Just a bit political wouldn't you say?

If the Olympic Committee are even considering whether BLM is good or bad, then they're way outside their jurisdiction. Which would be making money from sport.

There is no better way of politicizing the Olympics, than to try to ban political gestures. This will be the nail in the coffin of the already moribund Tokyo Olympics. Hopefully Godzilla himself makes an appearance, and takes a knee in the main stadium!


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The olympics is an ancient Greek tradition where city states competed against each other, removing national flags is like removing the jerseys from soccer, heres five names from NZ, UK, USA and Australia and Canada

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John tadley
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Melissa bildabrach

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Postby James_xenoland » Sat May 08, 2021 11:57 pm

Good... It's the only right thing to do. And the safest for everyone. Once you open that door.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun May 09, 2021 12:05 am

James_xenoland wrote:Good... It's the only right thing to do. And the safest for everyone. Once you open that door.


The door to acknowledging that black people are people?
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun May 09, 2021 12:18 am

Vikanias wrote:
Political Geography wrote:
Wow, is that a dumb swing. I don't think ANY of those countries were technically third world when their dictators were done with them.

Few people in the third world NOW care about woke culture. Maybe answer that rather than what you thought you saw on the page?


Cuba’s economy is still garbage after Castro died
Libya is in a fucking civil war for christs sakes
Tito left Yugoslavia pretty in the middle but after a while a decade war started
I don’t know much about Nasser so eh


Cuba is absolutely not 3rd world.

The term 3rd world originates from the Cold War. 1st world was US-aligned/capitalist, 2nd was Soviet-aligned/communist, and 3rd was countries that had been left on the sidelines.
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Postby James_xenoland » Sun May 09, 2021 1:36 am

A simple (and relatively tame) thought experiment. If they allowed BLM then what happens if/when others demand the same? And someone wants to bring "All Lives Matter" (an hilariously and tellingly maligned saying according to certain groups) or even "White Lives Matter" etc? Or when a muslim country comes along with an idea like "Jew Lives Don't Matter" or something? What then?!

Which is really beside the point anyway because this kind of political shenanigans has NO place at an event like these!


Idzequitch wrote:While I agree that the Olympics is not the place for political statements, the error here is assuming that the idea of black lives mattering is a political one. Black individuals are not a policy up for debate. They are people, and valued participants in the Olympic Games. While political avenues are being taken to try to ensure the fair treatment of black people, the issue is not, at its base, a political one. It's a humanitarian issue, and one that holds far more inportance than any of the games at the Olympics. There comes a time when we must stop worrying about avoiding controversy, and just try to be decent human beings. This is one of those times.

"BLM" =/= black lives mattering though. It's an extremist political/ideological organization, with a entire list of political demands no less, and thus wholly out of place for this type of event.


The Two Jerseys wrote:And I'm supposed to get bent out of shape because the IOC emphasized that a certain popular protest movement is subject to their existing rule against protests at the Olympics why, exactly?

This!


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Novostia wrote:TL;DR: The Olympics Are Apolitical And Should Stay Apolitical


But you know what they say today, everything is political.

And they would be completely full of shit for saying such. Doing something for political reasons is political, to call anything beyond that "political" is to stretch the meaning and concept of the term beyond practical or symbolic relevance entirely!


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Novostia wrote:Well No, They Are Only Political If People Make Them Political

this is nonsensical
an apolitical stance is nothing more than apathetic conservatism
there is exceedingly little that exists outside the realm of politics

See above.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun May 09, 2021 1:37 am

James_xenoland wrote:"BLM" =/= black lives mattering though. It's an extremist political/ideological organization, with a entire list of political demands no less, and thus wholly out of place for this type of event.


"Police shouldn't kill people" is an extremist view now?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 09, 2021 1:50 am

A Salmon Named Harold wrote:I agree with the fact that the Olympics should not be a place for any political agenda both good and bad. It should just remain an event of friendly competition and entertainment.


The mere fact that the Olympics recognise (or not recognise) certain countries as existing is already very political ofc.
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Postby Dakini » Sun May 09, 2021 1:54 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
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TIL racism only exists in America. I mean it's not like there were BLM rallies the world over or anything. 100% a uniquely American thing.

Notice how most in Japan are foreigners protesting about such a thing

Uh... are you just pretending that people who aren't ethnically Japanese can't be from Japan (also, several of the people in the picture of protest in Japan in that article are ethnically Japanese)?
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sun May 09, 2021 2:21 am

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The Lone Alliance wrote:Furthermore which Black Lives? Because there's a whole lot of Black Lives in Africa suffering under worse conditions than the US, and for them Black Lives Matter is a first world problem.


Getting shot to death or asphyxiated is a First World Problem? Also, this is wrong.

Should just teach cops to use their batons or fists lmao. Use your gun when someone is armed. I suggest cops stop using Cock-17's and start using MP9 SMG's, 10mm Auto Pistols or .44 Mag Revolvers
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sun May 09, 2021 2:23 am

Dakini wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Notice how most in Japan are foreigners protesting about such a thing

Uh... are you just pretending that people who aren't ethnically Japanese can't be from Japan (also, several of the people in the pictures of protests in Japan are ethnically Japanese)?

No. They aren't japs, that's like calling an American man who can speak Arabic and believe in Islam a Palestinian
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This thread would make for a fascinating case study of right-wing reactionaries who actually believe they're apolitical.
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Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Dakini wrote:Uh... are you just pretending that people who aren't ethnically Japanese can't be from Japan (also, several of the people in the pictures of protests in Japan are ethnically Japanese)?

No. They aren't japs, that's like calling an American man who can speak Arabic and believe in Islam a Palestinian

Wow. Using a racial slur while attacking anti-racism protests. Fun times.

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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sun May 09, 2021 2:30 am

Vikanias wrote:
Political Geography wrote:
Wow, is that a dumb swing. I don't think ANY of those countries were technically third world when their dictators were done with them.

Few people in the third world NOW care about woke culture. Maybe answer that rather than what you thought you saw on the page?


Cuba’s economy is still garbage after Castro died
Libya is in a fucking civil war for christs sakes
Tito left Yugoslavia pretty in the middle but after a while a decade war started
I don’t know much about Nasser so eh

Cuba was probably a poor example of third world despite them being apart of the Non-Allignment Movement
Libya would have been fine if the USA didn't intervene
Yugoslavia would have gone a less bloodier route if Milosevic wasn't elected or Tito appointed his son to be a successor, even then the economy went to poo afterwards
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Roblox Crossroads wrote:No. They aren't japs, that's like calling an American man who can speak Arabic and believe in Islam a Palestinian

Wow. Using a racial slur while attacking anti-racism protests. Fun times.

Where. Please make me laugh, where is a racial slur my friend
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Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Vikanias wrote:
Cuba’s economy is still garbage after Castro died
Libya is in a fucking civil war for christs sakes
Tito left Yugoslavia pretty in the middle but after a while a decade war started
I don’t know much about Nasser so eh

Cuba was probably a poor example of third world despite them being apart of the Non-Allignment Movement
Libya would have been fine if the USA didn't intervene
Yugoslavia would have gone a less bloodier route if Milosevic wasn't elected or Tito appointed his son to be a successor, even then the economy went to poo afterwards
Dakini wrote:Wow. Using a racial slur while attacking anti-racism protests. Fun times.

Where. Please make me laugh, where is a racial slur my friend


Just because we're not at war any more doesn't make Jap suddenly acceptable.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sun May 09, 2021 2:34 am

Vassenor wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Cuba was probably a poor example of third world despite them being apart of the Non-Allignment Movement
Libya would have been fine if the USA didn't intervene
Yugoslavia would have gone a less bloodier route if Milosevic wasn't elected or Tito appointed his son to be a successor, even then the economy went to poo afterwards

Where. Please make me laugh, where is a racial slur my friend


Just because we're not at war any more doesn't make Jap suddenly acceptable.

Jap is a shorter way of saying Japanese? I'm pretty sure you're confusing it with Nips or Tojos
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Postby Drongonia » Sun May 09, 2021 2:38 am

Vassenor wrote:Just because we're not at war any more doesn't make Jap suddenly acceptable.

If "Jap" is a slur, so are Yank, Roo, Gerry and leaf. But go off, kween

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Maybe it's just me, but The Opinion Guy's threads just seem like false flag race baiting.
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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Maybe it's just me, but The Opinion Guy's threads just seem like false flag race baiting.

Ditto
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Postby Vassenor » Sun May 09, 2021 2:43 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
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Just because we're not at war any more doesn't make Jap suddenly acceptable.

Jap is a shorter way of saying Japanese? I'm pretty sure you're confusing it with Nips or Tojos


Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". Today, it is generally regarded as an ethnic slur among Japanese minority populations in other countries, although English-speaking countries differ in the degree to which they consider the term offensive.

In the United States, Japanese Americans have come to find the term very offensive, even when used as an abbreviation. Prior to the Attack on Pearl Harbor, Jap was not considered primarily offensive. However, following the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the Japanese declaration of war on the US, the term became derogatory, as anti-Japanese sentiment increased.[1] During the war, signs using the epithet, with messages such as "No Japs Allowed", were hung in some businesses, with service denied to customers of Japanese descent.[2]
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