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Austreylia wrote:

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Because most attackers are black, and this is a way to turn the narrative, and put the idea in people's heads that Asians are under attack from white rednecks.

And it actually somehow works.

Only in America.

Or, both white and black people have been racist in there own ways.


Crowder has been very racist both before and during the pandemic.

Political Geography wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Or, both white and black people have been racist in there own ways.

It's grey racism man, not even brown people can escape the hate.

Crowder has been very racist both before and during the pandemic.

I'll take your word for that.

No need to just take my word for it.

The Reformed American Republic wrote:

Austreylia wrote:
I said:

Because most attackers are black, and this is a way to turn the narrative, and put the idea in people's heads that Asians are under attack from white rednecks.

How exactly do the slogans “stop Asian hate” and “Black Lives Matter” implicate white rednecks? Afraid I lost you there.

Wahlid wrote:

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Because most attackers are black, and this is a way to turn the narrative, and put the idea in people's heads that Asians are under attack from white rednecks.

How exactly do the slogans “stop Asian hate” and “Black Lives Matter” implicate white rednecks? Afraid I lost you there.

Because BLM is holding up "Stop Asian Hate" signs in an effort to whitewash the fact that a large chunk of anti-Asian hate crimes are committed by black people, therefore suspicion automatically falls on white rednecks since they're the default hate crime boogeyman.

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Wahlid wrote:
How exactly do the slogans “stop Asian hate” and “Black Lives Matter” implicate white rednecks? Afraid I lost you there.

Because BLM is holding up "Stop Asian Hate" signs in an effort to whitewash the fact that a large chunk of anti-Asian hate crimes are committed by black people, therefore suspicion automatically falls on white rednecks since they're the default hate crime boogeyman.

Given that i was informed of this by BLM supporters this claim seems sus.

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Wahlid wrote:
How exactly do the slogans “stop Asian hate” and “Black Lives Matter” implicate white rednecks? Afraid I lost you there.

Because BLM is holding up "Stop Asian Hate" signs in an effort to whitewash the fact that a large chunk of anti-Asian hate crimes are committed by black people, therefore suspicion automatically falls on white rednecks since they're the default hate crime boogeyman.

Or maybe, just maybe, the BLM people also believe hate crimes against Asians are wrong. You know, rather than this being some devious plot.

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Anti-Asian sentiment and violence only entered mainstream discourse both in Europe and America when a white guy finally committed some. They put a white face to the phenomena that is overwhelmingly not committed by white people. OP did the same.

I agree with this. Why hide parts of the story, unless there is something politically motivated for the pushing of passive-aggressive shadowing that we are not seeing in the modern day media.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Or, both white and black people have been racist in there own ways.

Yep. And blacks commit most of the crimes against Asians.

But guess which race gets blamed for it; white people.

Crowder has been very racist both before and during the pandemic.

Alright. That's not even relevant in the slightest.

Sungoldy-China wrote:When you live in a foreign country, you have to be prepared for such things to happen to you.
Freedom does not come without a price

Mate.

It is not legal in any country around the world to attack people with cinder blocks. This is not "freedom", this is just some arsehole breaking the law.

Austreylia wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Or, both white and black people have been racist in there own ways.

Yep. And blacks commit most of the crimes against Asians.

But guess which race gets blamed for it; white people.

Crowder has been very racist both before and during the pandemic.

Alright. That's not even relevant in the slightest.

How is it not relevant?

Crowder is an influencer. He posts racist garbage like this alot. His echo chamber of an audience then rally around him to do the same thing.


Painting it as only blacks being racist against asians is wrong. White people have done it alot in recent memory too. How many Karen's out there have been hating on asians during the pandemic? Lots.

Everyone who is racist towards asians regardless of skin colour should be blamed for there own racism against asian people.

To single out one race is dumb. We shouldn't pretend its only one race or another.

The black people who assulted the asian people should be held responsible for there crimes. As should any white people who make an ass out of themselves being racist both IRL and on the internet, like Crowder.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:How is it not relevant?

Crowder is an influencer. He posts racist garbage like this alot. His echo chamber of an audience then rally around him to do the same thing.

And Crowder isn't the one going round physically attacking asians.

Painting it as only blacks being racist against asians is wrong. White people have done it alot in recent memory too. How many Karen's out there have been hating on asians during the pandemic? Lots.

"Karens" haven't been the ones physically attacking asians.

To single out one race is dumb. We shouldn't pretend its only one race or another.

You're right. But the perpetrators of the beatings of asians are most often black.

The black people who assulted the asian people should be held responsible for there crimes. As should any white people who make an ass out of themselves being racist both IRL and on the internet, like Crowder.

Saying racist things isn't a crime.

Austreylia wrote:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:How is it not relevant?

Crowder is an influencer. He posts racist garbage like this alot. His echo chamber of an audience then rally around him to do the same thing.

And Crowder isn't the one going round physically attacking asians.

Painting it as only blacks being racist against asians is wrong. White people have done it alot in recent memory too. How many Karen's out there have been hating on asians during the pandemic? Lots.

"Karens" haven't been the ones physically attacking asians.

To single out one race is dumb. We shouldn't pretend its only one race or another.

You're right. But the perpetrators of the beatings of asians are most often black.

The black people who assulted the asian people should be held responsible for there crimes. As should any white people who make an ass out of themselves being racist both IRL and on the internet, like Crowder.

Saying racist things isn't a crime.

He isn't, but promoting racist things with his unfunny excuse of ""humor"" gets people to treat asian people badly. Not in a physical way but in a mental way. Both are racism at the core so both are bad. Being violent towards asians is a bigger deal then just being a douchebag in public or online so I do have to give you that. But both are bad in the same way, just different degrees.


Karens haven't for the most part, but they have been rude and harass asians in public. Also Karens have tried to get asians arrested and or fired depending on the situation.


Depends on the severity and the laws of your local jurisdiction. But despite whether or not it is legal, I think we both agree that if anyone says racist things that makes that person an asshole.


Overall, BLM saying stop asian hate is a good thing. It shows that people in BLM don't want anyone black or white to harass or get violent towards asian people.

[quote="Political Geography";p="38624963"]I'm not the one who responded to a thread with a link to NBC, by saying "media will never talk about it".
Let's skip the struggle against the obvious, and just deny the obvious shall we?[quote]

Insisting on a dumb argument does not make that argument right.

The reality is that MOST TVs and newspapers and big tech have a narrative and that narrative is anti white and pro black.

You yourself have not denied this. Instead you just try to divert to bla bla, it is complex thing [quote="Political Geography";p="38624963"]The media is an enormous, diverse thing. I think what you're following isn't "the media" so much as voices in your head.[quote]

Did Don Lemon say the problem with america was black people or white people? MSNBC? NYT? TWP?

You are just trying to muddy the waters. Just admit reality:

The anti-asian crime wave was blamed on redneck trump supporters, Reality is that it is DNC supporting blacks.

[quote="Political Geography";p="38624963"]The facts of the article are that 1 (one) black man, possibly in the company of another person, assaulted 2 (two) Asian women, with a cinder block.
If that seems "significant" to you in establishing a trend, then you need less media of any sort, and a few days with a book about statistics.[quote]

Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

Care the educate which racial group disproportionately commits violent crime in the USA? especially against asians?........................................

yeah I didn't think so

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

Care the educate which racial group disproportionately commits violent crime in the USA? especially against asians?........................................

yeah I didn't think so

The fact that the race of the attacker is the most important part of this story to a lot of people is deeply concerning. I thought this thread was about a violent hate crime against Asians, not a poorly veiled "black people do crime" argument.

Rusozak wrote:

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

Care the educate which racial group disproportionately commits violent crime in the USA? especially against asians?........................................

yeah I didn't think so

The fact that the race of the attacker is the most important part of this story to a lot of people is deeply concerning. I thought this thread was about a violent hate crime against Asians, not a poorly veiled "black people do crime" argument.

The OP assumed it was a white boy who made the attack. To bash white on Asian racism.. Which is why the emphasis is on the fact it was a Person of Color who did it.

These people are paid to do such things. All of these attacks on Asians is Biden and the Left's way of getting revenge on them for their alleged support of Trump.

White people have also been racist towards Asians, but the overwhelming number (spanning decades) of physical violence against Asians have been committed by Blacks. Which is funny that BLM is pretending to care when their higher ups knows exactly what they are doing secretly.

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

Care the educate which racial group disproportionately commits violent crime in the USA? especially against asians?........................................

yeah I didn't think so

I mean
hate crime wise, anti-asian crime is committed more by white people than any other group combined

i mean, we can talk violent crime in the abstract if you want, but that's not really comparable here

Kowani wrote:

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

Care the educate which racial group disproportionately commits violent crime in the USA? especially against asians?........................................

yeah I didn't think so

I mean
hate crime wise, anti-asian crime is committed more by white people than any other group combined

i mean, we can talk violent crime in the abstract if you want, but that's not really comparable here

Or you can look at %'s. Are blacks 1/3rd the population of whites in this country? 76% of the country is white. 13% black. So a disproportionate share of the anti Asian hate crimes reported are from blacks.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045219

But this of course doesn't count quota's

Ethel mermania wrote:

Kowani wrote:I mean
hate crime wise, anti-asian crime is committed more by white people than any other group combined

i mean, we can talk violent crime in the abstract if you want, but that's not really comparable here

Or you can look at %'s. Are blacks 1/3rd the population of whites in this country? 76% of the country is white. 13% black. So a disproportionate share of the anti Asian hate crimes reported are from blacks.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045219

But this of course doesn't count quota's

...your numbers are still wrong
30 is not 1/3 of 205

Kowani wrote:

Ethel mermania wrote:Or you can look at %'s. Are blacks 1/3rd the population of whites in this country? 76% of the country is white. 13% black. So a disproportionate share of the anti Asian hate crimes reported are from blacks.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045219

But this of course doesn't count quota's

...your numbers are still wrong
30 is not 1/3 of 205

205 was the total, 95 by whites.

The Sovereign Realist State wrote:Sure, LETS TALK STATS!!

NSG really hates crime statistics.

Ethel mermania wrote:

Kowani wrote:...your numbers are still wrong
30 is not 1/3 of 205

95 by whites.

that...doesn't support your claim that a disproportionate percentage of anti-asian hate crimes are committed by black people

Kowani wrote:

Ethel mermania wrote:95 by whites.

that...doesn't support your claim that a disproportionate percentage of anti-asian hate crimes are committed by black people

That isn't the point I am trying to make, 30 of 205 is proportional. My claim is anti Asian hate crime is not a "white racism " issue.

Unless you are talking about quotas

Ethel mermania wrote:

Kowani wrote:that...doesn't support your claim that a disproportionate percentage of anti-asian hate crimes are committed by black people

That isn't the point I am trying to make, 30 of 205 is proportional. My claim is anti Asian hate crime is not a "white racism " issue.

Ethel mermania wrote:So a disproportionate share of the anti Asian hate crimes reported are from blacks.

????????

Unless you are talking about quotas

tf are you talking about

Kowani wrote:

Ethel mermania wrote:That isn't the point I am trying to make, 30 of 205 is proportional. My claim is anti Asian hate crime is not a "white racism " issue.

Ethel mermania wrote:So a disproportionate share of the anti Asian hate crimes reported are from blacks.

????????

Unless you are talking about quotas

tf are you talking about

1. I compared the 30 to the 95, not 205, my bad

2. Quota systems for school admissions or jobs. Discriminate against Asians.