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Lady Victory wrote:Literally what the fuck can they even do about it?


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Literally what the fuck can they even do about it?

They could do a lot of things, the real question is what will they do?
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And this is the same group that just a few weeks ago suggested that they'd be completely fine with the US striking Daesh-K in Afghanistan.

They need to get their story straight, because right now they appear to be welcoming US strikes while also promising retaliation for those strikes that the Taliban wants to happen.


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Alcala-Cordel wrote:
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Literally what the fuck can they even do about it?

They could do a lot of things, the real question is what will they do?


Probably nothing of substance to the U.S. They're not like ISIS where they can put people anywhere.
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Alcala-Cordel wrote:They could do a lot of things, the real question is what will they do?


Probably nothing of substance to the U.S. They're not like ISIS where they can put people anywhere.

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Literally what the fuck can they even do about it?

Harbor a terrorist group who will "retaliate" for them.

It's like they didn't learn their lesson the last time...
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Female Afghan judges hunted by murderers they convicted

They were the trailblazers of women's rights in Afghanistan. They were the staunch defenders of the law, seeking justice for their country's most marginalised. But now, more than 220 female Afghan judges are in hiding due to fear of retribution under Taliban rule. Six former female judges spoke to the BBC from secret locations across Afghanistan. All of their names have been changed for their safety.

Throughout her career as a judge, Masooma has convicted hundreds of men for violence against women, including rape, murder and torture.

But just days after the Taliban took control of her city and thousands of convicted criminals were released from prison, the death threats began.

Text messages, voice notes and unknown numbers began bombarding her phone.

"It was midnight when we heard the Taliban had freed all the prisoners from jail," says Masooma.

"Immediately we fled. We left our home and everything behind." In the past 20 years, 270 women have sat as judges in Afghanistan. As some of the most powerful and prominent women in the country, they are known public figures.

"Travelling by car out of the city, I wore a burka, so no-one would recognise me. Fortunately, we made it past all the Taliban checkpoints."

Shortly after they left, her neighbours texted her to say several members of the Taliban had arrived at her old house.

Masooma says that as soon as they described the men, she knew who was looking for her. Several months ago, prior to the Taliban takeover, Masooma was ruling over a case investigating a member of the group for brutally murdering his wife.

Upon finding him guilty, Masooma sentenced the man to 20 years in prison.

"I can still see the image of that young woman in my mind. It was a brutal crime," says Masooma.

"After the case was over, the criminal approached me and said: 'When I get out of prison, I will do to you what I did to my wife.'

"At the time I didn't take him seriously. But since the Taliban took power, he has called me many times and said he has taken all of my information from the court offices.

"He told me: 'I will find you and have my revenge.'" At least 220 former female judges are known to currently be in hiding across Afghanistan, a BBC investigation has found.

Speaking to six former judges from different provinces, their testimonies of the past five weeks were almost identical.

All have received death threats from members of the Taliban whom they previously committed to prison. Four named specific men whom they sentenced for murdering their wives.

All have changed their phone number at least once due to receiving death threats.

They are all currently living in hiding, moving locations every few days.

They all also said their former homes had been visited by members of the Taliban. Their neighbours and friends reported being questioned as to their whereabouts.

In response to the accusations, Taliban spokesman Bilal Karimi told the BBC: "Female judges should live like any other family without fear. No-one should threaten them. Our special military units are obliged to investigate such complaints and act if there is a violation."

He also repeated the Taliban's promise of a "general amnesty" for all former government workers across Afghanistan: "Our general amnesty is sincere. But if some wish to file a case to leave the country, our request is that they do not do this and they stay in their country."

During the mass release of prisoners, many criminals not associated with the Taliban were also released.

With regards to the security of female judges, Mr Karimi also said:

"In the case of drug traffickers, mafia members, our intention is to destroy them. Our action against them will be serious." As highly educated women, these judges were previously the main breadwinner for their families. But now, with their salaries stopped and their bank accounts frozen, they have all been reduced to living off hand-outs from their relatives.

For more than three decades, Judge Sanaa investigated cases of violence against women and children.

She says the majority of her cases involved convicting members of the Taliban as well as militant group Isis.

"I have received more than 20 threatening phone calls from former inmates who have now been released."

She is currently in hiding with more than a dozen family members.

Only once has one of her male relatives returned to their former family home. But as he was packing some clothes, the Taliban arrived at the house in several cars full of armed men, led by a commander.

"I opened the door. They asked me whether this was the judge's house," he says. "When I said I didn't know where she was, they threw me on the stairs. One of them hit me with the butt of his gun and started beating me. My nose and mouth were covered in blood."

After the armed men left, Sanaa's relative took himself to hospital.

"I told another relative we must keep changing the house where my sister is staying. There is no other way out now. We can't escape to any other country, even Pakistan."
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:20 pm

See, criticising a social, political, or philosophical stance is easier than trying to defend one, all other things being equal. Therefore, in politics, it can sometimes be useful to make sure that your statements and actions do not add up to any coherent stance, so that you can spend your time criticising your enemies’ stances while not having to properly defend your own.

The Taliban simultaneously wants there to be and despises the practice of US drone bombings. They insist on the education and social participation of women while also insisting that they stay away from schools and workplaces. All hail doublethink. All hail Big Brother Allah.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:07 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Literally what the fuck can they even do about it?

Harbor a terrorist group who will "retaliate" for them.

It's like they didn't learn their lesson the last time...

As revenge they might be extremely vaguely associated with someone responsible for an entirely unrelated plot to do something bad, causing the United States to commit unspeakable crimes against humanity and further destabilize the region for a third time

What I meant is they might kill publicly execute people in retaliation
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Aaand, the Taliban-Tajikistan Back & Forth Continues
The Taliban said Tajikistan and Pakistan were interfering in Afghan affairs (both were calling for inclusive govt in Afghanistan and criticizing banning girls from schools). Tajikistan fired back that the Taliban should clothe and feed Afghans, including Talib fighters, before they worry about what Tajikistan does.

The Talibs sent a butload of fighters to an area that borders Tajikistan. Tajikistan has apprarently responded by holding a militant parade on their side of the border with that area.
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Insaanistan wrote:Aaand, the Taliban-Tajikistan Back & Forth Continues
The Taliban said Tajikistan and Pakistan were interfering in Afghan affairs (both were calling for inclusive govt in Afghanistan and criticizing banning girls from schools). Tajikistan fired back that the Taliban should clothe and feed Afghans, including Talib fighters, before they worry about what Tajikistan does.

The Talibs sent a butload of fighters to an area that borders Tajikistan. Tajikistan has apprarently responded by holding a militant parade on their side of the border with that area.


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By the way, Insaanistan, really appreciate your updates. You're the only one I've been getting the more in-depth behind the scenes updates from.
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Corrian wrote:By the way, Insaanistan, really appreciate your updates. You're the only one I've been getting the more in-depth behind the scenes updates from.

You’re welcome.
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I mean it's true. The State Department is the one that is officially in charge of calling for an evacuation, until the State Department calls for an evacuation there isn't mush the Department of Defense can do. There is some, they could have better re positioned aircraft and moved some more forces into the airport as an example, but they couldn't start evacuating anyone.
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So, essentially, the Taliban simps have just been outright lying about the Taliban's attitude and policies regarding women - as if we needed more of a demonstration. They accept and support men who murder their wives murdering female judges who convicted them for murdering their wives.
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Evil Wolf wrote:And this is the same group that just a few weeks ago suggested that they'd be completely fine with the US striking Daesh-K in Afghanistan.

They need to get their story straight, because right now they appear to be welcoming US strikes while also promising retaliation for those strikes that the Taliban wants to happen.

This is the usual politico-diplomatic noise. They want to seem like they're strong and in charge, so they're issuing vague pronouncements like this pledging to do...something...but they're not GOING to DO anything as long as the matter doesn't pose a threat to them, just make angry noises.

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Fahran wrote:So, essentially, the Taliban simps have just been outright lying about the Taliban's attitude and policies regarding women - as if we needed more of a demonstration. They accept and support men who murder their wives murdering female judges who convicted them for murdering their wives.


Oh no! What a surprise! I'm so shocked!

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Fahran wrote:So, essentially, the Taliban simps have just been outright lying about the Taliban's attitude and policies regarding women - as if we needed more of a demonstration. They accept and support men who murder their wives murdering female judges who convicted them for murdering their wives.


Gee, didn't see this one coming from half a world away.

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Fahran wrote:So, essentially, the Taliban simps have just been outright lying about the Taliban's attitude and policies regarding women - as if we needed more of a demonstration. They accept and support men who murder their wives murdering female judges who convicted them for murdering their wives.

But 4 out of 5 doctors smoke Camels Muslims support this interpretation of sharia!
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:32 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Fahran wrote:So, essentially, the Taliban simps have just been outright lying about the Taliban's attitude and policies regarding women - as if we needed more of a demonstration. They accept and support men who murder their wives murdering female judges who convicted them for murdering their wives.

But 4 out of 5 doctors smoke Camels Muslims support this interpretation of sharia!


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