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Postby Giovenith » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:47 am

Miternet wrote:And yet I do, Nazis are not welcome on this site and are not welcome anywhere. Nazis condone an ideology that would see millions killed so you'll forgive me if I'm mildly rude to them.


Again, you do not dictate the rules of this site. If you don't want to adhere to them, you are free to leave.

I didn't know opposing Nazis was against the rules on NS.


Flaming, trolling, and baiting any group of people is against the rules. You can oppose Nazis without doing any of that. Kindly do not strawman what is being expected of you in order to play the victim.

That would imply that Nazi ideology is worth debating. It's not, it's garbage and so are they.


Then don't. You are free to not debate them. You are not free to break our rules.



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Postby Kubra » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:56 am

Arvenia wrote:
Kubra wrote: Sorry fella, but if you go somewhere that encourages diverse political opinions you're going to get diverse political opinions, in particular the ones you don't like.
Look on the bright side: Sai is really the only one. A few come and go here and there, but this place informally tends to be quite unwelcoming to the folks, just as they are usually unwelcoming to the lot of us in general. And in any case, Sai is relatively benign, largely because his views are, if I can say this, kind of ridiculous. Like, even for a fascist. Like, norwegian black metal political thought ridiculous, except much more benign.

Norwegian black metal also tends to be Satanic and anti-Christian.
I'm talking more the ridiculous edginess in general. Euronymous had a very novel take on communism that didn't quite fit in when he tried to join the communists.
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:01 am

Kubra wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Norwegian black metal also tends to be Satanic and anti-Christian.
I'm talking more the ridiculous edginess in general. Euronymous had a very novel take on communism that didn't quite fit in when he tried to join the communists.

I see. Euronymous was also fascinated with mass surveillance, secret police and forced disappearance, which contrasts with how black metal tends to be very anti-authoritarian (just like punk rock).
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Postby Kubra » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:13 am

Arvenia wrote:
Kubra wrote: I'm talking more the ridiculous edginess in general. Euronymous had a very novel take on communism that didn't quite fit in when he tried to join the communists.

I see. Euronymous was also fascinated with mass surveillance, secret police and forced disappearance, which contrasts with how black metal tends to be very anti-authoritarian (just like punk rock).
"also"? No, that was his communism. Again: made it very awkward when he joined a communist org and found that they weren't too fond of "oh boy how will we torture people when we're secret police comrades haha"
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:16 am

Kubra wrote:
Arvenia wrote:I see. Euronymous was also fascinated with mass surveillance, secret police and forced disappearance, which contrasts with how black metal tends to be very anti-authoritarian (just like punk rock).
"also"? No, that was his communism. Again: made it very awkward when he joined a communist org and found that they weren't too fond of "oh boy how will we torture people when we're secret police comrades haha"

Okay. Maybe we should put black metal aside and focus more on Afghanistan as usual.
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Postby Kubra » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:30 am

Well, on topic, the "resistance" now starving insurgents up in the mountains of Panjshir just shows how much a mistake the thing was. Tack that on the list of examples of name recognition generally being a piss poor way of choosing who does up your strategic plans.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:37 am

It's always amusing when the people who oppose Nazis act more like Nazis than the actual nazis.
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Postby Duvniask » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:45 am

Tarsonis wrote:It's always amusing when the people who oppose Nazis act more like Nazis than the actual nazis.

Being mean to Nazis online and saying you don't want to share your online space with them is apparently the same as being part of a deeply reactionary and totalitarian political movement that would have a good chunk of the people on this site killed.

Whatever you say, buddy.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:50 am

Guys, I think you have the wrong politically extremist group. This thread is about the Taliban, not the Nazis.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:52 am

Duvniask wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:It's always amusing when the people who oppose Nazis act more like Nazis than the actual nazis.

Being mean to Nazis online and saying you don't want to share your online space with them is apparently the same as being part of a deeply reactionary and totalitarian political movement that would have a good chunk of the people on this site killed.

Whatever you say, buddy.

When did this become a Nazi debate, and it stop being about afghani political chaos.
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Postby Duvniask » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:54 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Being mean to Nazis online and saying you don't want to share your online space with them is apparently the same as being part of a deeply reactionary and totalitarian political movement that would have a good chunk of the people on this site killed.

Whatever you say, buddy.

When did this become a Nazi debate, and it stop being about afghani political chaos.

Admittedly with Miternet continually making it known that he hates Sai's guts or whatever, to the point of breaking the site rules. But I digress: that comment stirred a reaction from me so that I felt it was necessary to respond.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:37 am

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Postby Valrifall » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:10 pm



To be fair 75 people is already 150% of Montana

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:15 pm



I guess the senator is unaware the mayor of the state capital is a refugee.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:06 pm

https://www.wkbw.com/news/state-news/as ... in-buffalo

As many as 1,143 Afghan evacuees coming to NYS, up to 335 expected in Buffalo

https://www.wfsb.com/news/ct-to-accept- ... da72c.html

Connecticut to accept more than 300 Afghan refugees

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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:39 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Fahran wrote:As well as the often bizaree conception Pashtuns have regarding homosexuality, namely that only the victim or passive participant is gay.
A view that was shared more-or-less by the ancient Romans: In one electoral campaign an accusation levelled at the candidate Julius Caesar was that he had "played the woman's part".

Well, he was every woman's husband and every man's wife. Unlike the Chad Hadrian.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:41 pm

Diahon wrote:yet more rubble-raising from the guys who are totally afghans from afghanistan, we fucking pinky swear

this joke of a fuckedup emirate doing what it does best -- destroying everyone and everything

A lot of them are probably Pashtuns from southern Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. They're local enough. The problem is they don't hold even the good aspects of their culture in terribly high regard.

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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:51 pm


Breaking News: 75 Afghan refugees rebuke American human rights abuses, claim "nobody deserves to live in Montana."

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Postby Diahon » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:04 pm

Fahran wrote:
Diahon wrote:yet more rubble-raising from the guys who are totally afghans from afghanistan, we fucking pinky swear

this joke of a fuckedup emirate doing what it does best -- destroying everyone and everything

A lot of them are probably Pashtuns from southern Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. They're local enough. The problem is they don't hold even the good aspects of their culture in terribly high regard.

they forfeited their claim to afghan culture when they joined the taliban, and their wanton murder and destruction tells me the feeling's mutual

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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:09 pm

Diahon wrote:they forfeited their claim to afghan culture when they joined the taliban, and their wanton murder and destruction tells me the feeling's mutual

Plenty of organizations and movements have some intention of bending and changing their extant culture to accommodate ideological goals. The Taliban simply happen to be Islamist hardliners and horrid brutes.

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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:09 pm

Fahran wrote:

Breaking News: 75 Afghan refugees rebuke American human rights abuses, claim "nobody deserves to live in Montana."

Oooh how the turntables.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:18 pm

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Breaking News: 75 Afghan refugees rebuke American human rights abuses, claim "nobody deserves to live in Montana."

I feel like you hate on a lot of states for a patriot… :p
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:39 pm

Kowani wrote:I feel like you hate on a lot of states for a patriot… :p

Well, duh. I'm a Texan patriot. :^)

In all seriousness, Montana is rather pretty. It's just their culture is a bit alien to me. I imagine they're like a mishmash of Texans and Coloradans.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:41 pm

There are reports the NRF now controls areas of Badakhshan that border Tajikistan. If true, well, we’ll see how strong Tajik brotherhood is.

Additionally, Chamtaleh Station in Kabul was attacked by rockets in Kabul. As no one has officially claimed responsibility, we have no clue who actually did it.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:26 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:I feel like you hate on a lot of states for a patriot… :p

Well, duh. I'm a Texan patriot. :^)

my sincerest condolences for your condition
In all seriousness, Montana is rather pretty. It's just their culture is a bit alien to me. I imagine they're like a mishmash of Texans and Coloradans.

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