Afghan Conflict: Russian Political Leader Meets With Massoud

[South Americanastan]

Afghan banks ask Taliban for more cash as dollars run out

I’m tempted to wish for someone to tell the Taliban to just print more money and see what happens.

Knowing the Taliban, they'll probably just wait for Allah to print money for them.

[Kowani]

Afghan banks ask Taliban for more cash as dollars run out

I’m tempted to wish for someone to tell the Taliban to just print more money and see what happens.

the problem is that the afghan economy is not de facto monetarily sovereign
they're running out of american dollars, not afghanis

[Kanaia]

Please. Stop. You don't know anything about fiqh or the definition of fitna from scholars. You're off the map. It's embarrassing. Just accept that covering the face is mandatory in the opinion of many distinguished scholars and you disagree with that and oppose it for your own ideological reasons, whatever they may be

Except it's not mandatory in the opinion of Abu Hanifa to my knowledge. Nor in the opinion of most scholars, either historically or today. It's pretty much always been a minority opinion and is scarcely practiced today beyond the Persian Gulf countries, Afghanistan, and Pakistan - and, despite your objections, that's not solely due to secularism or European influence.

Dhabihah slaughter requires cutting the animal's throat toward the qibla while pronouncing the Basmala and out of view of other animals. I'm not even going to get into Kosher rules because you aren't just speaking ignorance, you are proliferating it in a the cocksure style of an expert. Your posts are like balloons, they are empty of content, just a bunch of jargon and nonsense you try to pass off by acting confident about it. They can be popped with just a pinprick of truth. The beginning of wisdom is to admit you don't know what you don't.

https://jewishlouisville.org/kfc-relaun ... this-time/

The principal issue here is that KFC forbids most of its franchises from making religious claims about the quality of its meat. The thing is though... most meat in the US is already kosher. To be halal there are only two additional requirements. To face towards the qibla and to recite a prayer invoking G-d's name. We (Americans) don't tend to leave blood in our meat if we can help it, especially not in our chicken. Several KFC franchisees have actually gotten hit with a hammer by their HQ for serving kosher/halal meat advertised as such in the past. One can suppose they were lying, but, given how common this is and how much it expands the market, I wouldn't be surprised if they were being honest about it. Unless you're being puritannical about it... the meat could easily pass the test.

Don't try to reason with him about Kosher. He tried to argue with me earlier in this thread that Coca-Cola and Pepsi products weren't Kosher because they don't have a hechsher. Which I proved him wrong with sources and the fact that they do bear a hechsher. He has no idea what he's talking about.
Furthermore, his lack of knowledge on Kashrut, while being authoritarian and unyielding regarding his views on it, make me doubt the accuracy of his views and knowledge of Islam.

[Chess Reloaded]

Except it's not mandatory in the opinion of Abu Hanifa to my knowledge. Nor in the opinion of most scholars, either historically or today. It's pretty much always been a minority opinion and is scarcely practiced today beyond the Persian Gulf countries, Afghanistan, and Pakistan - and, despite your objections, that's not solely due to secularism or European influence.


The principal issue here is that KFC forbids most of its franchises from making religious claims about the quality of its meat. The thing is though... most meat in the US is already kosher. To be halal there are only two additional requirements. To face towards the qibla and to recite a prayer invoking G-d's name. We (Americans) don't tend to leave blood in our meat if we can help it, especially not in our chicken. Several KFC franchisees have actually gotten hit with a hammer by their HQ for serving kosher/halal meat advertised as such in the past. One can suppose they were lying, but, given how common this is and how much it expands the market, I wouldn't be surprised if they were being honest about it. Unless you're being puritannical about it... the meat could easily pass the test.

Don't try to reason with him about Kosher. He tried to argue with me earlier in this thread that Coca-Cola and Pepsi products weren't Kosher because they don't have a hechsher. Which I proved him wrong with sources and the fact that they do bear a hechsher. He has no idea what he's talking about.
Furthermore, his lack of knowledge on Kashrut, while being authoritarian and unyielding regarding his views on it, make me doubt the accuracy of his views and knowledge of Islam.

Tell the truth. I never tried to argue with you. I said (which is wrong, I admit) I didn't drink them because they weren't Kosher (lacking the marking). I figured they must have some animal enzyme.You then corrected me by showing me they were certified just didn't use to the certification on their label. I accepted that. That's presumably because they don't have an animal product.

Now that that is cleared up, are you going to assert KFC is kosher, yes, or no? If no then your point here is in bad faith

[Fahran]

Afghan banks ask Taliban for more cash as dollars run out

I’m tempted to wish for someone to tell the Taliban to just print more money and see what happens.

That's unironically Ko's economic policy though.

[Kowani]

I’m tempted to wish for someone to tell the Taliban to just print more money and see what happens.

That's unironically Ko's economic policy though.

Wrong currency, wrong circumstances!
The problem here isn’t something the Taliban can solve-it is (stereotypical leftism here) entirely the fault of foreign meddling


Also not quite how it works

[Diahon]

That's unironically Ko's economic policy though.

Wrong currency, wrong circumstances!
The problem here isn’t something the Taliban can solve-it is (stereotypical leftism here) entirely the fault of foreign meddling

and we're glad to meddle!

- love, world

[Fahran]

Wrong currency, wrong circumstances!
The problem here isn’t something the Taliban can solve-it is (stereotypical leftism here) entirely the fault of foreign meddling

If only they were China...

Also not quite how it works

Whatever. Accept the bulli.

[Kanaia]

Don't try to reason with him about Kosher. He tried to argue with me earlier in this thread that Coca-Cola and Pepsi products weren't Kosher because they don't have a hechsher. Which I proved him wrong with sources and the fact that they do bear a hechsher. He has no idea what he's talking about.
Furthermore, his lack of knowledge on Kashrut, while being authoritarian and unyielding regarding his views on it, make me doubt the accuracy of his views and knowledge of Islam.

Tell the truth. I never tried to argue with you. I said (which is wrong, I admit) I didn't drink them because they weren't Kosher (lacking the marking). I figured they must have some animal enzyme.You then corrected me by showing me they were certified just didn't use to the certification on their label. I accepted that. That's presumably because they don't have an animal product.

Now that that is cleared up, are you going to assert KFC is kosher, yes, or no? If no then your point here is in bad faith

You didn't argue? You're still arguing. Coca-Cola and Pepsi products DO put a certification mark on them.
As for KFC, am I going to assert that it is Kosher? Absolutely not, I'm not a rabbinical authority, nor would I dictate what other people can or cannot consume. Keeping Kosher is not black and white, it is variable on what tradition you follow and how strict the precedent is. This might be a difficult concept for a fundamentalist, but literal interpretation is not the only way to adhere to a religion. All that being said, there are a significant portion of people who consider themselves to be keeping Kosher that would eat KFC and believe it Kosher.

[Senkaku]

Tell the truth. I never tried to argue with you. I said (which is wrong, I admit) I didn't drink them because they weren't Kosher (lacking the marking). I figured they must have some animal enzyme.You then corrected me by showing me they were certified just didn't use to the certification on their label. I accepted that. That's presumably because they don't have an animal product.

Now that that is cleared up, are you going to assert KFC is kosher, yes, or no? If no then your point here is in bad faith

You didn't argue? You're still arguing. Coca-Cola and Pepsi products DO put a certification mark on them.
As for KFC, am I going to assert that it is Kosher? Absolutely not, I'm not a rabbinical authority, nor would I dictate what other people can or cannot consume. Keeping Kosher is not black and white, it is variable on what tradition you follow and how strict the precedent is. This might be a difficult concept for a fundamentalist, but literal interpretation is not the only way to adhere to a religion. All that being said, there are a significant portion of people who consider themselves to be keeping Kosher that would eat KFC and believe it Kosher.

Have the Taliban infiltrated the FDA's Bureau of Talmudic Affairs or something?

[Kowani]

Wrong currency, wrong circumstances!
The problem here isn’t something the Taliban can solve-it is (stereotypical leftism here) entirely the fault of foreign meddling

and we're glad to meddle!

- love, world

this will, surprisingly, hurt the average afghan the most

Wrong currency, wrong circumstances!
The problem here isn’t something the Taliban can solve-it is (stereotypical leftism here) entirely the fault of foreign meddling

If only they were China...

Also not quite how it works

Whatever. Accept the bulli.

why would i do that when i can deflect it with pedantry?

[Maricarland]

I’m tempted to wish for someone to tell the Taliban to just print more money and see what happens.

That's unironically Ko's economic policy though.

Modern Monetary Theory only applies to fiat currency and a countries relationship to fiat currency.

If you are monetarily sovereign and have a fiat currency, your currency is not backed up by gold, or silver, or other assets, or another state's currency. The only thing backing your currency is that people need it to pay their taxes and your state has the power to enforce taxation law. When you have a fiat currency, you will never run out of currency because currency is only created when the government spends it into existence and is destroyed at the moment of taxation. The problem with creating too much money is that if your supply of money outstrips your supply of real resources (including unutilized resources, such as the labor of people who want to work but are involuntarily unemployed), then you create inflation and must remove money from circulation (usually through the use of taxation).

Most non-fiat currencies today back up their currencies in a reserve currency (which is usually fiat), such as the U.S. dollar, and that is how the currency in Afghanistan works. When you have to back up your currency in gold, or silver, or U.S. dollars, or Euros, etc... you are limited in how much money you can spend, or you will run out of what you back your currency in.

[Kowani]

A standing army maybe?

Afghanistan’s Army Chief Qari Fasihuddin Makhdoom said on Wednesday that a new regular army will be created in the near future and consultations are ongoing for this purpose.

“Such an army would be created which could defend Afghanistan,” Fasihuddin, an ethnic Tajik, told a gathering in capital Kabul, a week after the Taliban’s Islamic Emirate appointed him as the country’s Chief of the Army Staff. Fasihuddin hails from Badakhshan Province Fasihuddin, who has not held any regular military’s position, has served as the Deputy Commander of the Taliban Military Commission during the war against the US and its NATO allies.

He did not offer comments about the fate of the nearly 300,000 Afghan National Army and other security forces, who were created and trained during the 20 years of foreign forces’ invasion.

“We will create such a strong and disciplined army which is trained and could defend Afghanistan,” the Afghan army chief said. Pro-Taliban media reported Fasihuddin’s comments. He said no one will be allowed to disrupt the peace and stability of Afghanistan and those would be crushed who are bent upon spoiling security under the pretext of resistance, nationalism defending the 20 years of achievement and democracy,” he said. He said those elements would be countered who want bloodshed in Afghanistan. Taliban officials have earlier indicated that those military and security officials could be allowed to return to the security forces who do not have “bad previous record.” There is a strong possibility the Taliban fighters could be merged with the new army. A United Nations report said in May this year that estimates of the armed Taliban fighters range from approximately 58,000 to 100,000, with numbers fluctuating as forces are actively deployed on the battlefield or placed in reserve.

“Taliban numbers remain robust in spite of significant attrition rates incurred in the past few years,” according to the report of the Analytical Support and Sanctions Monitoring Team established pursuant to a resolution, which was submitted to the Security Council Committee established pursuant to another resolution.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I'm more than happy to close my mind against Nazis.

We know, you have already stated this. No need to repeat yourself.

Just like how I'm free to inform any Nazi reading this that they are not welcome on this site and that if every last one of them were to throw themselves into the sea, the world would be a much better place.

Actually, no, you do not have that right to tell people that they are not welcome on this site. Only the site owner and the moderation team can do that. You are clearly neither. You also might want to be a little more careful on how you word things, as wishing death upon people generally is frowned upon.

As has your sympathy for Nazis.

Yes yes, I'm showing sympathy for Nazi's by advocating for Free Speech.

..........

*Thunk*

I think Nazis don't meet most people's standards of approval but if you're happy to have Nazis here...

As stated, so long as people are civil, I'm happy to have anyone here. Why that's such a difficult concept to understand despite being so plain is beyond me, yet here we are for some strange reason. Odd that.....

Nazis are inherently uncivil. Their ideology calls for mass murder of 'lesser races' and the establishment of ethnostates. I think most people would disagree with that even if you're not one of them.

Yes, that is your opinion, and I've pretty clearly stated mine on the matter. Why you are choosing to put words in my mouth that I've not said and pretend that I did is again beyond me, but here were are regardless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

A civil Nazi is still a Nazi.

Again, if someone is truly not bothering anyone besides just "existing" and are being civil, then they have just as much of a right to be here as anyone.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Freedom of thought and conscience is the foundation of any progressive democratic society.

As long as all we do is talk - and this is an Internet forum, talk is all that we do - I don’t see any particular need why we need to banish people of less conventional political persuasions.

[Miternet]

I'm more than happy to close my mind against Nazis.

We know, you have already stated this. No need to repeat yourself.

You're the one who keeps implying I'm a bad person for disliking Nazis.

Just like how I'm free to inform any Nazi reading this that they are not welcome on this site and that if every last one of them were to throw themselves into the sea, the world would be a much better place.

Actually, no, you do not have that right to tell people that they are not welcome on this site. Only the site owner and the moderation team can do that.

And they should. And Nazis still aren't welcome here.

You are clearly neither. You also might want to be a little more careful on how you word things, as wishing death upon people generally is frowned upon.

If the mods object to me wanting Nazis to die they are more than welcome to warn and/or ban me then they can. But hating Nazis and wanting them all to die is a very common viewpoint outside NS.

As has your sympathy for Nazis.

Yes yes, I'm showing sympathy for Nazi's by advocating for Free Speech.

You're advocating free speech for Nazis so, yes you are.

..........

*Thunk*

Was that your brain falling out?

I think Nazis don't meet most people's standards of approval but if you're happy to have Nazis here...

As stated, so long as people are civil, I'm happy to have anyone here. Why that's such a difficult concept to understand despite being so plain is beyond me, yet here we are for some strange reason. Odd that.....

Because Nazis are inherently evil. 'Civil' as they are, the still desire ethnic cleansing of the 'lesser races'. Why would you want people like that here?

Nazis are inherently uncivil. Their ideology calls for mass murder of 'lesser races' and the establishment of ethnostates. I think most people would disagree with that even if you're not one of them.

Yes, that is your opinion, and I've pretty clearly stated mine on the matter. Why you are choosing to put words in my mouth that I've not said and pretend that I did is again beyond me, but here were are regardless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because you're defending Nazis.

A civil Nazi is still a Nazi.

Again, if someone is truly not bothering anyone besides just "existing" and are being civil, then they have just as much of a right to be here as anyone.

Not if they are a Nazi.

[Kubra]

We know, you have already stated this. No need to repeat yourself.

You're the one who keeps implying I'm a bad person for disliking Nazis.

Actually, no, you do not have that right to tell people that they are not welcome on this site. Only the site owner and the moderation team can do that.

And they should. And Nazis still aren't welcome here.

You are clearly neither. You also might want to be a little more careful on how you word things, as wishing death upon people generally is frowned upon.

If the mods object to me wanting Nazis to die they are more than welcome to warn and/or ban me then they can. But hating Nazis and wanting them all to die is a very common viewpoint outside NS.

Yes yes, I'm showing sympathy for Nazi's by advocating for Free Speech.

You're advocating free speech for Nazis so, yes you are.

..........

*Thunk*

Was that your brain falling out?

As stated, so long as people are civil, I'm happy to have anyone here. Why that's such a difficult concept to understand despite being so plain is beyond me, yet here we are for some strange reason. Odd that.....

Because Nazis are inherently evil. 'Civil' as they are, the still desire ethnic cleansing of the 'lesser races'. Why would you want people like that here?

Yes, that is your opinion, and I've pretty clearly stated mine on the matter. Why you are choosing to put words in my mouth that I've not said and pretend that I did is again beyond me, but here were are regardless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because you're defending Nazis.

Not if they are a Nazi.

no one is defending Sai, only his right to participate.

[Bears Armed]

As well as the often bizaree conception Pashtuns have regarding homosexuality, namely that only the victim or passive participant is gay.

A view that was shared more-or-less by the ancient Romans: In one electoral campaign an accusation levelled at the candidate Julius Caesar was that he had "played the woman's part".

[Diahon]

yet more rubble-raising from the guys who are totally afghans from afghanistan, we fucking pinky swear

this joke of a fuckedup emirate doing what it does best -- destroying everyone and everything

[Christian Confederation]

yet more rubble-raising from the guys who are totally afghans from afghanistan, we fucking pinky swear

this joke of a fuckedup emirate doing what it does best -- destroying everyone and everything

Honestly a few years down the line someone should make a comedy like the Dictator mixed with the Office.
'The Emirate': The Story of Mahmud and Osama leading a group of Terrorists as they attempt to make a government after toppling their nation's government.

[Giovenith]

Just like how I'm free to inform any Nazi reading this that they are not welcome on this site and that if every last one of them were to throw themselves into the sea, the world would be a much better place.

We know, you have already stated this. No need to repeat yourself.

You're the one who keeps implying I'm a bad person for disliking Nazis.

Actually, no, you do not have that right to tell people that they are not welcome on this site. Only the site owner and the moderation team can do that.

And they should. And Nazis still aren't welcome here.

You are clearly neither. You also might want to be a little more careful on how you word things, as wishing death upon people generally is frowned upon.

If the mods object to me wanting Nazis to die they are more than welcome to warn and/or ban me then they can. But hating Nazis and wanting them all to die is a very common viewpoint outside NS.

Yes yes, I'm showing sympathy for Nazi's by advocating for Free Speech.

You're advocating free speech for Nazis so, yes you are.

..........

*Thunk*

Was that your brain falling out?

As stated, so long as people are civil, I'm happy to have anyone here. Why that's such a difficult concept to understand despite being so plain is beyond me, yet here we are for some strange reason. Odd that.....

Because Nazis are inherently evil. 'Civil' as they are, the still desire ethnic cleansing of the 'lesser races'. Why would you want people like that here?

Yes, that is your opinion, and I've pretty clearly stated mine on the matter. Why you are choosing to put words in my mouth that I've not said and pretend that I did is again beyond me, but here were are regardless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because you're defending Nazis.

Not if they are a Nazi.

*** Warning for Flaming/Trolling ***

No Miternet, you do not get to dictate who is and is not welcome on NS and are not "free" to tell anyone to do whatever you want. We're all well-aware of the opinion some hold about Nazis and civility, and while you're free to practice that philosophy in other places, you do not get a free pass to break established NS rules in accordance with it.

Plenty of people here have been smashing Nazi opinions to pieces without falling afoul of our rules long before you came along, there's no reason that you can't either.

[Miternet]

Just like how I'm free to inform any Nazi reading this that they are not welcome on this site and that if every last one of them were to throw themselves into the sea, the world would be a much better place.

You're the one who keeps implying I'm a bad person for disliking Nazis.



And they should. And Nazis still aren't welcome here.



If the mods object to me wanting Nazis to die they are more than welcome to warn and/or ban me then they can. But hating Nazis and wanting them all to die is a very common viewpoint outside NS.



You're advocating free speech for Nazis so, yes you are.




Was that your brain falling out?



Because Nazis are inherently evil. 'Civil' as they are, the still desire ethnic cleansing of the 'lesser races'. Why would you want people like that here?



Because you're defending Nazis.



Not if they are a Nazi.

*** Warning for Flaming/Trolling ***
No Miternet, you do not get to dictate who is and is not welcome on NS and are not "free" to tell anyone to do whatever you want.

And yet I do, Nazis are not welcome on this site and are not welcome anywhere. Nazis condone an ideology that would see millions killed so you'll forgive me if I'm mildly rude to them.

We're all well-aware of the opinion some hold about Nazis and civility, and while you're free to practice that philosophy in other places, you do not get a free pass to break established NS rules in accordance with it.

I didn't know opposing Nazis was against the rules on NS.

Plenty of people here have been smashing Nazi opinions to pieces without falling afoul of our rules long before you came along, there's no reason that you can't either.

That would imply that Nazi ideology is worth debating. It's not, it's garbage and so are they.

[Miternet]

You're the one who keeps implying I'm a bad person for disliking Nazis.



And they should. And Nazis still aren't welcome here.



If the mods object to me wanting Nazis to die they are more than welcome to warn and/or ban me then they can. But hating Nazis and wanting them all to die is a very common viewpoint outside NS.



You're advocating free speech for Nazis so, yes you are.




Was that your brain falling out?



Because Nazis are inherently evil. 'Civil' as they are, the still desire ethnic cleansing of the 'lesser races'. Why would you want people like that here?



Because you're defending Nazis.



Not if they are a Nazi.

no one is defending Sai, only his right to participate.

He shouldn't be participating in anything. He's a Nazi.

[Kubra]

no one is defending Sai, only his right to participate.

He shouldn't be participating in anything. He's a Nazi.

Sorry fella, but if you go somewhere that encourages diverse political opinions you're going to get diverse political opinions, in particular the ones you don't like.
Look on the bright side: Sai is really the only one. A few come and go here and there, but this place informally tends to be quite unwelcoming to the folks, just as they are usually unwelcoming to the lot of us in general. And in any case, Sai is relatively benign, largely because his views are, if I can say this, kind of ridiculous. Like, even for a fascist. Like, norwegian black metal political thought ridiculous, except much more benign.

[Arvenia]

He shouldn't be participating in anything. He's a Nazi.

Sorry fella, but if you go somewhere that encourages diverse political opinions you're going to get diverse political opinions, in particular the ones you don't like.
Look on the bright side: Sai is really the only one. A few come and go here and there, but this place informally tends to be quite unwelcoming to the folks, just as they are usually unwelcoming to the lot of us in general. And in any case, Sai is relatively benign, largely because his views are, if I can say this, kind of ridiculous. Like, even for a fascist. Like, norwegian black metal political thought ridiculous, except much more benign.

Norwegian black metal also tends to be Satanic and anti-Christian.