Chess Reloaded wrote:It IS mandatory in his opinion if there is a fitna. That is pretty well defined by scholars. If you are unsure what their definition or idea of it is, for God's sake just stop and accept you don't know what you're talking about
I know what fitna means literally, but I'm questioning what precisely constitutes creating or inviting fitna in a modern-day context. Because, again, I think you're clandestinely massaging the most extreme interpretation possible out of existing precedents and opinions without a lot of substantiation or justification. Especially given that a lot of Hanafi scholars do not presently hold this view. Is it reasonable to expect a normal woman's face to create struggle or strife in a normal man's heart?
Chess Reloaded wrote:Blood being drained from the meat isn't enough to make it Kosher or halal. You should show some shame, I am completely shocked at you, you just went on with your nonsense as if you are impervious to truth. That article just said KFC was kosher in Israel for years and only lately have they ceased to be.
I'm aware. I'm intimately familiar with the laws governing kosher slaughter since I do observe them. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that only the strictest set of laws is ever acceptable or applicable when that's really not the case. Certainly, you do not shy away from honoring and fulfilling the law and do not reject the law for comfort. But you can get by just fine without going to the extremes. With regard to KFC, they expressly forbid franchises from claiming religious certifications - despite that some can and have done so. I imagine in Israel this means that they're going with the strictest possible interpretation of kosher - which requires a shochet and a bunch of other requirements that aren't, strictly speaking, necessary to meet the standards of kosher outside of the most frum communities. The meat is not from a treif animal. The animal is probably not treated inhumanely or fed on meat products. The animal is killed with a single blow and is probably (in the US) not stunned. The major veins are removed. The blood is removed. It's possible an error occurred, but exceedingly unlikely. You're doing your due diligence if you buy most meat in the US or Europe so long as the animal isn't treif or from a factory farm.
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:24 pm