Afghan Conflict: Russian Political Leader Meets With Massoud

[The Black Forrest]

Wouldn’t it have been simpler to write:

I don’t like liberals!

I mean it literally would have been simpler, but it wouldn’t have made the point that that whole paragraph makes, which I assume is what they actually wanted to communicate

At best its disingenuous. It’s leaves out things like all the conservative “cut and run” talk when there was suggestions to get out.

[Punished UMN]

I mean it literally would have been simpler, but it wouldn’t have made the point that that whole paragraph makes, which I assume is what they actually wanted to communicate

At best its disingenuous. It’s leaves out things like all the conservative “cut and run” talk when there was suggestions to get out.

Believe it or not, my discussing metapolitical philosophy from 1922 Germany isn't 1:1 compatible with 2021 America and its political labels.

[Kowani]

pentagon to deploy another 1,000 troops to assist with withdrawal

Overall numbers now will include:

~ 2K Marines
~ 2K soldiers from 82nd
~ 1K from composite unit with Minnesota National Guard
~ Nearly 1K that had been assigned to protect embassy and airport prior to last week

[Atomic Testing Museum]

There are two obvious solutions. The first one is the US should just leave because who cares about what happens in Afghanistan. I'm sure that if it gets to out of hand the UN will step in. The second solution is based on the boxer rebellion. The US should get a bunch of countries that also have interests in the middle east like Russia and China and then they should get a bunch of countries that hate the Taliban. Then they should from a mega alliance and crush the Taliban.

[Salus Maior]

William Wallace also isn't as cool as the legends make him.

>tfw he didn't even actually use a claymore because they didn't exist yet

Hollywood lied to us

IIRC, he did have a greatsword which in Gaelic is "claidheamh-mòr" (which is the origin for the word "claymore"). It just wasn't the form of Claymore sword we're familiar with because that did develop later.

[Immortan Khan]

It's fine to call Alabamans X pejorative about being uneducated brutes because of Y social issue but calling the Taliban the same thing for murdering girls because they want to read is a step too far.

Absolute state of shitty Western postcolonials.

[Chess Guy]

George Washington, William Wallace, Osama bin Laden. Names that will live as long as men are free.

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OBL died like a bitch and Washington owned slaves, they can both pound sand.

OBL's wife rushed to protect him, he calmly shoot up, his head towering above her, looking the man who would kill him calmly in the eye as he gave him a clean shot.

[Salus Maior]

I mean it literally would have been simpler, but it wouldn’t have made the point that that whole paragraph makes, which I assume is what they actually wanted to communicate

At best its disingenuous. It’s leaves out things like all the conservative “cut and run” talk when there was suggestions to get out.

Conservatives are also, broadly speaking, liberal in ideology.

[Diarcesia]

At best its disingenuous. It’s leaves out things like all the conservative “cut and run” talk when there was suggestions to get out.

Conservatives are also, broadly speaking, liberal in ideology.

Fox News in shambles.

[Chess Guy]

It's fine to call Alabamans X pejorative about being uneducated brutes because of Y social issue but calling the Taliban the same thing for murdering girls because they want to read is a step too far.

Absolute state of shitty Western postcolonials.

The Taliban doesn't murder girls, please cut out the lying

[Baltenstein]

OBL died like a bitch and Washington owned slaves, they can both pound sand.

OBL's wife rushed to protect him, he calmly shoot up, his head towering above her, looking the man who would kill him calmly in the eye as he gave him a clean shot.

His last words also reportedly were "Well, do ya, PUNK?"

[Punished UMN]

It's fine to call Alabamans X pejorative about being uneducated brutes because of Y social issue but calling the Taliban the same thing for murdering girls because they want to read is a step too far.

Absolute state of shitty Western postcolonials.

The Taliban doesn't murder girls, please cut out the lying

It murders a lot of people actually, many of them girls.

[Gallia-]

Only Americans qualify as human under the religious cult that constitute the US State Department, in this analogy.

Everyone else is somewhere between "useful inanimate object", like a chair or a hammer, and "wild angry animal" like a badger or wolf.



Schmitt had some spicy critiques but also fell into a trap of pigeonholing. It's not just liberals in the Western concept. ISIS cannot do the same thing (towards infidels). Neither could Hitlerites (towards the Jews).

Plenty of groups have sworn issues that are redlines or whatever. Most groups can be reasoned with to some extent, whether it's something like converting a religion, or at least hashing out a deal over lunch. Afghans are rational people who, historically, tend to be powerfully independent folks. As long as you let them rule their country how they want, they don't really care about other stuff. The British were able to grok this after their first bout. Maybe America will figure it out too, and work out a deal with the Taliban that lets them build railroads or mineral mines in the country.

The State Department will fuck that up too though unless they purge neocons and ideological radicals from the party clique. Pragmatists need to be brought in who can look past ideological differences toward common goals.

You're right of course, Schmitt was blinded by his dedication to the Nazi Party in his later writings to see his own biases, but his writings can be extrapolated to those ideologies as well.

Absolutely. I think he saw Hitler more as Kaiser Willy 2, than what he truly was, which sort of bit him in the ass later on.

It's also why he avoided jail time in occupied Germany.

Reminds me of an observation, I believe by Schmitt, that liberals are one of the few groups incapable of negotiating the end to a war, because liberal ideology fundamentally does not acknowledge the legitimacy of its enemies to negotiate peace, and so the only form of peace a liberal can accept is the total destruction of the groups it views as its enemies. While less idealistic ideologies are inclined to view war as a matter of conflicting interests, liberals don't accept that their enemies have legitimate, strategic interests, only that they, as a people, are barbaric and must be crushed.

Wouldn’t it have been simpler to write:

I don’t like liberals!

No, because Schmitt had very specific critiques and pretty good reasons for being opposed to liberalism: He didn't want to see Europe embroiled in another Great War and he didn't like the fact that liberal ideology led to the then-current world order which caused a lot of death and destruction in civil wars (like Spain and China) all over the place. These critiques still stand today to an extent, because modern liberalism has absorbed Judeo-Christian universalism into itself.

Most German conservatives like him that formed the nascent Christian Democrats that attempted to destroy national liberalism and replace it with pan-European nationalism instead. Both US neocons and European liberals were pretty heavily influenced by Schmitt whether they consciously realize it (neocons) or not (Euros).

Euros are attempting to do what Schmitt thought Germany should do: establish a Monroe doctrine hegemony over Europe itself.
Neocons are attempting to do what Schmitt thought America did, but to the entire world: establish a Monroe doctrine hegemony over the world.

To varying degrees these were Schmitt's critiques of liberalism. It wouldn't allow for Germany (or the United States) to "own" their respective spheres. "Liberalism" in this case usually refers to the British Empire though.

[Chess Guy]

OBL's wife rushed to protect him, he calmly shoot up, his head towering above her, looking the man who would kill him calmly in the eye as he gave him a clean shot.

His last words also reportedly were "Well, do ya, PUNK?"

Make my day

[The Reformed American Republic]

The Taliban are mostly savages, though I'm still for pulling out.

Yes, we know you're racist against Pashtuns. Most people can put that aside and hash out a deal with different cultures and belief systems, even if they find their beliefs distasteful, though.

You can't really reason with ISIS though, because they're ideological extremists, which is kind of like the United States State Department in a way.

Is this a parody account? Seriously? It's racist to criticize the Taliban not for their race but for their actions?

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Taliban doesn't murder girls, please cut out the lying

It murders a lot of people actually, many of them girls.

There's video evidence of it even lol

[Luminesa]

OBL died like a bitch and Washington owned slaves, they can both pound sand.

OBL's wife rushed to protect him, he calmly shoot up, his head towering above her, looking the man who would kill him calmly in the eye as he gave him a clean shot.

I’ve been avoiding your stupid comments like the plague but here’s something to make people laugh, since you like YouTube links so much:
The Dr. Cox Rebuttal

[Kowani]

Republican Party deletes page from their website that pointed out that Trump wanted to pull out of Afghanistan

[Chess Guy]

The Taliban doesn't murder girls, please cut out the lying

It murders a lot of people actually, many of them girls.

You're thinking of America

[Rusozak]

Republican Party deletes page from their website that pointed out that Trump wanted to pull out of Afghanistan

Back at it trying to rewrite very recent history I see.

[Chess Guy]

OBL's wife rushed to protect him, he calmly shoot up, his head towering above her, looking the man who would kill him calmly in the eye as he gave him a clean shot.

I’ve been avoiding your stupid comments like the plague but here’s something to make people laugh, since you like YouTube links so much:
The Dr. Cox Rebuttal

I'm going by his own wife's account

[Salus Maior]

It murders a lot of people actually, many of them girls.

You're thinking of America

Sure, America does it.

So does the Taliban.

[Diarcesia]

Republican Party deletes page from their website that pointed out that Trump wanted to pull out of Afghanistan

It'S aLl BiDeN's FaUlT!

[Luminesa]

Just as a note for moderation, I’ve added to the Advocating Genocide thread, I didn’t know whether or not to make a new thread or not. Thank ya’ll.

[Old Tyrannia]

OBL died like a bitch and Washington owned slaves, they can both pound sand.

William Wallace also isn't as cool as the legends make him.

I disagree. The real William Wallace was a far more interesting man than the pop-culture version.