Afghan Conflict: Russian Political Leader Meets With Massoud

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... fghanistan

Islamic State claims credit for deadly mosque bombing in Afghanistan

[Rio Cana]

Found the following informative news source from India, which throws light on the religious conflict going on in Afghanistan and other parts of the world.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xaF5p86Y84

[Turk Cumhuriyeti]

The conflict will continue for very very long. It started in 1978 and was not interrupted til now. Moreover, there is not a real state in Afganistan.

[Corrian]

Massoud Briefly ‘Visited Dushanbe’ for Tajikistan-Pakistan Organized Peace Talks With the Taliban, Taliba Just Didn’t Show Up

Well I guess they can get an ass whooping instead.

[Insaanistan]

Taliban Admit Resistance Fighters are Inflicting Casualties in Baghlan Province, Won’t Specify the Extent

[Kowani]

US to offer Condolence Payments to the relatives of the 10 civilians killed in the last drone strike

The Pentagon said Friday that the U.S. would issue "condolence payments" to relatives of 10 Afghan civilians, including seven children, killed in an August drone strike—an attack military officials had initially defended as a "righteous strike" targeting an explosive-laden vehicle destined for militants and later admitted to being a "horrible tragedy" that claimed innocent lives.

The statement from Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby followed a Thursday virtual meeting that included Dr. Steven Kwon, president and CEO of Nutrition & Education International (NEI), and Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl. NEI had employed as a technical engineer Zemari Ahmadi, who was killed along with nine members of his family in the August 29 Hellfire missile strike in Kabul as the U.S. was pulling its troops out of Afghanistan.

"Kahl noted that the strike was a tragic mistake," said Kirby, "and that Mr. Ezmarai Ahmadi and others who were killed were innocent victims who bore no blame and were not affiliated with ISIS-K or threats to U.S. forces." "Dr. Kahl reiterated Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin's commitment to the families, including offering ex gratia condolence payments," the statement added.

The statement further indicated the Pentagon is working with the State Department to help resettle surviving members of Ahmadi's family in the U.S., according to the Washington Post.

NEI's Kwon, in a Thursday statement, welcomed the meeting with the Pentagon officials as a positive step.

In addition to being "like a son to me," Kwon praised Ahmadi as a "gifted engineer" who was "an essential part of our operations and successes."

The American Civil Liberties Union is representing NEI as it asks the U.S. government to help resettle the victims, provide compensation, and begin a thorough probe into the strike.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism and military mentality of the moguls , just like in Turkey in 1995.

Turkish Type Secularism+Mongol Empire+Social Democracy

[Dowaesk]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism and military mentality of the moguls , just like in Turkey in 1995.

Turkish Type Secularism+Mongol Empire+Social Democracy

Kemalism is Fascism.

Its going to make Afghanistan even worse than it is right now.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Look, friends, some are so afraid of the real solution, they decorate their fears with lies and slander, because what they really fear is science and freedom. We will not oppress the honor of our women and men to the political thought of Islam. It will be a truly free Afghanistan when gays roam freely in the Afghan capital. I especially want political Islamists who support the Taliban to see this, I want them to see real justice. Political Islam is the father of all evil.

[Kumarinadu]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism and military mentality of the moguls , just like in Turkey in 1995.

Turkish Type Secularism+Mongol Empire+Social Democracy

Kemalism is Fascism.

Its going to make Afghanistan even worse than it is right now.

You misspelled “based”

[Vassenor]

Kemalism is Fascism.

Its going to make Afghanistan even worse than it is right now.

You misspelled “based”

It's an ideology literally cited by the Nazis as a "postgenocidal paradise" worthy of emulation.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

A free Afghanistan will be when I am not afraid of being killed while reading Charlie Hebdo magazine and drinking beer with pork in the capital city of Afghanistan. For humanism, political Islam needs to be completely purged from Afghanistan. Secular Afghan youth must now open their eyes. Organizations like the Taliban are pawns of imperialism, be aware of that.

[Kumarinadu]

You misspelled “based”

It's an ideology literally cited by the Nazis as a "postgenocidal paradise" worthy of emulation.

Well, maybe the Nazis were historically illiterate and stupid. Kemalism united a diverse nation under a common cultural identity. Authoritarian means and patriotism does not necessarily make an ideology fascist. Or else we’d have to consider most founders of modern nation states fascists.

[Redeemed Britannia]

It's an ideology literally cited by the Nazis as a "postgenocidal paradise" worthy of emulation.

Well, maybe the Nazis were historically illiterate and stupid. Kemalism united a diverse nation under a common cultural identity. Authoritarian means and patriotism does not necessarily make an ideology fascist. Or else we’d have to consider most founders of modern nation states fascists.

Kemalism is literally an authoritarian ethnonationalist ideology with a heavy insistence in a national palingenesis. The main reason it's not fascism by itself is because a) not authoritarian enough and b) precedes fascism by a few years.

[Kumarinadu]

Well, maybe the Nazis were historically illiterate and stupid. Kemalism united a diverse nation under a common cultural identity. Authoritarian means and patriotism does not necessarily make an ideology fascist. Or else we’d have to consider most founders of modern nation states fascists.

Kemalism is literally an authoritarian ethnonationalist ideology with a heavy insistence in a national palingenesis. The main reason it's not fascism by itself is because a) not authoritarian enough and b) precedes fascism by a few years.

It’s culturally nationalist. It doesn’t have the racialist overtones of Naziism. Kurds that embraced the state ideology were considered just as much citizens as ethnic Turks.

[Kumarinadu]

I don’t agree with secularism in every case. I don’t really agree with the materialist premises it’s based on or that it’s universally applicable to all cultures everywhere. But for most of the middle east it would probably be a good start. Don’t see a chance that any country there would fully embrace it in a million years but it’s good to see individuals with that kind of mindset.

Also to comment on the events actually at hand it’s a surprise to no one that Shi’as are being massacred after the Taliban took the country. Just disgusting.

[Gallia-]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism and military mentality of the moguls , just like in Turkey in 1995.

Turkish Type Secularism+Mongol Empire+Social Democracy

Turkey isn't secular lol. It's like one parliament vote away from application of Sharia law and instituting state Islam. Kemalism was a failed experiment by a group of people who decided, about 100 years ago, that derailing a train is the best way to keep it from crashing into a station. Erdogan just put the final nails in the coffin. "Political Islam" is the reality of Turkey now, which means its laws and its governance are becoming closer to what the sociopolitical reality is.

This explains how Erdogan was able to defeat the shadow secularist Kemalists in the army and air force with a bunch of human chains holding hands and singing in the streets as opposed to shooting them or something.

[Risottia]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism

Turkey doesn't strike me as very secular right now though.

[Lady Victory]

Kemalism is literally an authoritarian ethnonationalist ideology with a heavy insistence in a national palingenesis. The main reason it's not fascism by itself is because a) not authoritarian enough and b) precedes fascism by a few years.

It’s culturally nationalist. It doesn’t have the racialist overtones of Naziism. Kurds that embraced the state ideology were considered just as much citizens as ethnic Turks.

As a cultural nationalist: fuck Kemalism.

Promotion of national culture shouldn't come with ethnic cleansing and genocide. That's a Fascist approach.

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism

Turkey doesn't strike me as very secular right now though.

That's because "Turkish secularism" (which is actually *French* secularism that Ataturk appropriated; it's also more like a lite form of State Atheism than it is true separation of church and state) doesn't exist anymore.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism and military mentality of the moguls , just like in Turkey in 1995.

Turkish Type Secularism+Mongol Empire+Social Democracy

Turkey isn't secular lol. It's like one parliament vote away from application of Sharia law and instituting state Islam. Kemalism was a failed experiment by a group of people who decided, about 100 years ago, that derailing a train is the best way to keep it from crashing into a station. Erdogan just put the final nails in the coffin. "Political Islam" is the reality of Turkey now, which means its laws and its governance are becoming closer to what the sociopolitical reality is.

This explains how Erdogan was able to defeat the shadow secularist Kemalists in the army and air force with a bunch of human chains holding hands and singing in the streets as opposed to shooting them or something.

Kemalism is an understanding that will never disappear as long as Turkey continues to exist. It is suitable with European culture. The Taliban and their supporters will surely understand this one day. Kemalist understanding will always prevail over political Islam. Afghan youth should interpret the Turkey of 1923 with a social democratic understanding.

The Taliban can be fought with a Turkish type of secularism

Turkey doesn't strike me as very secular right now though.

Unfortunately, you are right, but this will not last. I refuse to recognize the Taliban. we are social democratic kemalists who believe in the modern rule of law. Shaking hands with the Taliban is a genocide against humanity.

[FNU]

Kemalism is an understanding that will never disappear as long as Turkey continues to exist. It is suitable with European culture. The Taliban and their supporters will surely understand this one day. Kemalist understanding will always prevail over political Islam. Afghan youth should interpret the Turkey of 1923 with a social democratic understanding.

Gent, you chose the worst possible date to say "They should take inspiration from this year in Turkish history" considering that was the year the Armenian Genocide ended. Afghan youth are also presumably more busy surviving the warzone they call home. Also, assuming that an extremist political group will ever come to an understanding with others is just plain silly.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Don't you all love an overwhelming dosage of cultural imperialism with your dinners?

[Duvniask]

Kemalism is an understanding that will never disappear as long as Turkey continues to exist. It is suitable with European culture. The Taliban and their supporters will surely understand this one day. Kemalist understanding will always prevail over political Islam. Afghan youth should interpret the Turkey of 1923 with a social democratic understanding.

Gent, you chose the worst possible date to say "They should take inspiration from this year in Turkish history" considering that was the year the Armenian Genocide ended. Afghan youth are also presumably more busy surviving the warzone they call home. Also, assuming that an extremist political group will ever come to an understanding with others is just plain silly.

Hakinda doesn't believe the Armenian genocide was a thing. As close-minded and myopic as any stereotypical Turk you will encounter online.

[Kowani]

IBA, one of the top universities in Pakistan, invites Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen as a keynote speaker to give a lecture on geopolitics

[FNU]

Hakinda doesn't believe the Armenian genocide was a thing. As close-minded and myopic as any stereotypical Turk you will encounter online.

I figured, but nonetheless, it's an important point to bring up. Does Turkey really need a hand in deciding Afghanistan's fate? I personally don't think so, but then again, I'm an American, far disconnected from the issues they face.