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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:21 am

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Everyone in the world hates the Taliban it seems


Iran is a Shia theocracy and the Taliban are hardline Sunni's. I'd be more shocked if Iran didn't try to screw with them.
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Nothing bad is going to happen to them, I mean- come on. These are the Taliban's future subjects. If the Taliban is too harsh or impractical in their rule like ISIS was, they'll implode or get overthrown because over time everyone hates them. Taliban has a base of support because their platform is compatible with Afghanistan's culture and precedents in some way that the US supported regime just isn't.


Because that is exactly what happened the last time the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, right?
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Where there is sharia, there is no woman, where there is women, there is no shariah governed by superstition ! Political Islam is doomed to lose before humanity and science.


So is political Christianity. Religion whether it be Christianity or Islam should not be weaponized.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:08 am

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Christian Confederation wrote:Everyone in the world hates the Taliban it seems


Iran is a Shia theocracy and the Taliban are hardline Sunni's. I'd be more shocked if Iran didn't try to screw with them.


You know it’s bad when even Iran doesn’t like you.
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Christian Confederation wrote:Everyone in the world hates the Taliban it seems


Iran is a Shia theocracy and the Taliban are hardline Sunni's. I'd be more shocked if Iran didn't try to screw with them.

Also they’re already up to their eyeballs in heroin so I’m guessing the prospect of an even bigger deluge of Afghan poppies is not super compelling to them lol
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:11 am

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Jerzylvania wrote:Have you not one moral fiber?


Nothing bad is going to happen to them, I mean- come on. These are the Taliban's future subjects.

Do the Taliban strike you as a group particularly concerned with the well-being of their subjects
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:24 am

I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:24 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.


Literally nobody in Afghanistan wants this lol
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Postby Uiiop » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:28 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Iran is a Shia theocracy and the Taliban are hardline Sunni's. I'd be more shocked if Iran didn't try to screw with them.


You know it’s bad when even Iran doesn’t like you.

The point


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The schisms have nothing to do with Tailban going too far for their taste as far as know.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.


Literally nobody in Afghanistan wants this lol
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:51 am



You mean you can actually win if you fight back and don't just give up? Dang, if only we spent 20 years putting actual commanders in charge of the ANA who would have known this from the start lol.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:57 am

I know a lot of people have made Vietnam comparisons but honestly this feels more like 2014 Iraq to me where practically everything above the squad level collapsed and fled which allowed massive ISIS gains until a new officer corps was established to lead the actually fairly decent lower levels and push back.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:58 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I know a lot of people have made Vietnam comparisons but honestly this feels more like 2014 Iraq to me where practically everything above the squad level collapsed and fled which allowed massive ISIS gains until a new officer corps was established to lead the actually fairly decent lower levels and push back.

I mean yes, this was more Late Stage KMT 1949 than the end of South Vietnam.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:13 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.

1. this is a terrible idea, nobody in afghanistan wants this
2. eu bad. no, i shall not elaborate further
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Postby Picairn » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:25 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.

In a decentralized nation with competing tribes looking after their own kin, a centralized regime ruling from the capital, unaware of local issues and enforced by a foreign power is literally the worst thing to the various tribes and peoples of said nation. The US should have brushed up on the history of the short-lived Helvetic Republic (a centralized government imposed by the French on the Swiss cantons) before foolishly establishing a presidential republic in Afghanistan.
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I like to think that the relationship between ISIS and the Taliban is like that of two particularly toxic online gamers.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:33 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.

In a decentralized nation with competing tribes looking after their own kin, a centralized regime ruling from the capital, unaware of local issues and enforced by a foreign power is literally the worst thing to the various tribes and peoples of said nation. The US should have brushed up on the history of the short-lived Helvetic Republic (a centralized government imposed by the French on the Swiss cantons) before foolishly establishing a presidential republic in Afghanistan.

I mean, the entire point that the American politicians thought of for Afghanistan was to export freemarketism, KFC and the American Way.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:I know a lot of people have made Vietnam comparisons but honestly this feels more like 2014 Iraq to me where practically everything above the squad level collapsed and fled which allowed massive ISIS gains until a new officer corps was established to lead the actually fairly decent lower levels and push back.


The Vietnam comparisons come mostly from us running away with our tail between our legs as the central government is overthrown while law and order collapse behind us.

Other than that, yeah, comparisons to 2014 Iraq are apt.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I dream of a social democratic secular liberal big Afghanistan with a partalamnet system. I think of an afghanistan where no one kills each other, gays can marry, civil nationalism is common. Taking the European Union as an example, I think the target should be Asian unity.

In a decentralized nation with competing tribes looking after their own kin, a centralized regime ruling from the capital, unaware of local issues and enforced by a foreign power is literally the worst thing to the various tribes and peoples of said nation. The US should have brushed up on the history of the short-lived Helvetic Republic (a centralized government imposed by the French on the Swiss cantons) before foolishly establishing a presidential republic in Afghanistan.
in fairness, a few other french "sister republics" went quite swimmingly. Er, for a moment, until the french got a little greedy.
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Picairn wrote:In a decentralized nation with competing tribes looking after their own kin, a centralized regime ruling from the capital, unaware of local issues and enforced by a foreign power is literally the worst thing to the various tribes and peoples of said nation. The US should have brushed up on the history of the short-lived Helvetic Republic (a centralized government imposed by the French on the Swiss cantons) before foolishly establishing a presidential republic in Afghanistan.

I mean, the entire point that the American politicians thought of for Afghanistan was to export freemarketism, KFC and the American Way.


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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:09 am

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You mean you can actually win if you fight back and don't just give up? Dang, if only we spent 20 years putting actual commanders in charge of the ANA who would have known this from the start lol.

Yeah, Afghanistan’s troops (especially the Commandos) were super pissed about their commanders forcing them to surrender.
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You mean you can actually win if you fight back and don't just give up? Dang, if only we spent 20 years putting actual commanders in charge of the ANA who would have known this from the start lol.

Yeah, Afghanistan’s troops (especially the Commandos) were super pissed about their commanders forcing them to surrender.

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