agreed, I wish the administrations cared but that's wishful thinking
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by Heaven Hieghts » Wed May 05, 2021 10:13 am
by Sungoldy-China » Thu May 06, 2021 3:00 am
by Page » Thu May 06, 2021 3:01 am
Sungoldy-China wrote:Whether the United States is present or not, the Taliban will win Afghanistan.
In this land, only the Taliban can carry forward and grow ,Because the Taliban is the way to survival through long-term tempering of this land
Whether it is the Soviet Union or the United States, It is futile to plant delicate systems on this land.
Either cooperate with the Taliban or be eliminated by the Taliban.
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 12:14 pm
by Latorik » Thu May 06, 2021 12:21 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Thu May 06, 2021 12:22 pm
by Ethel mermania » Thu May 06, 2021 12:25 pm
by Heaven Hieghts » Thu May 06, 2021 12:35 pm
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 12:43 pm
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 12:46 pm
by Lady Victory » Thu May 06, 2021 1:05 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Why the fuck are we still in Afghanistan?
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:16 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 06, 2021 1:20 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 06, 2021 1:24 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Why the fuck are we still in Afghanistan?
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 06, 2021 1:28 pm
Page wrote:Sungoldy-China wrote:Whether the United States is present or not, the Taliban will win Afghanistan.
In this land, only the Taliban can carry forward and grow ,Because the Taliban is the way to survival through long-term tempering of this land
Whether it is the Soviet Union or the United States, It is futile to plant delicate systems on this land.
Either cooperate with the Taliban or be eliminated by the Taliban.
The Taliban will be the dominant faction either way but you sound strangely happy about it...
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:29 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Why the fuck are we still in Afghanistan?
"Hitler has shot himself. Job done boys, we can all go home. Nah, no need to worry about the Nazis taking back the territory. S'all good.".
I say that while still thinking we've been there too long and should leave. If the Taliban attack the west on the scale of 9/11 again, we should re-invade and accept the soft nation building measures applied to them will not work, and apply harsher measures. The west is under no obligation to tolerate a threat to its safety like that.
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Page wrote:
The Taliban will be the dominant faction either way but you sound strangely happy about it...
The issue is that the left wing position is "Let's leave", and the right wing position is "Let's stay forever while putting locals in charge of combating taliban ideology and running civilian affairs.".
If Afghani politicians had a clue how to shape a culture so as not to be pro-taliban, there wouldn't be a taliban.
This will mean that eventually we'll leave, the taliban will attack again, and then we're in a pickle.
Either the left just continually self-flaggellates and cucks about saying "We need to let them hit us UwU, we shouldn't invade because imperialism UwU", or the right loses its fucking mind and starts demanding we nuke the place.
This is because the left, deep down, knows the solution. That's why they keep referring to it as the only alternative to "Do nothing" while ignoring that "Just kill every single one of them" is the right wings idea of an alternative.
Invade afghanistan and make it a colony. Take over the governance. Teach them how to be a civilized nation. Take over their schools, their television, their newspapers. Control their culture. Occupy the place for a generation or two and keep cracking down on independence movements until they take on the character and quality of liberal democratic ones.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 06, 2021 1:31 pm
Insaanistan wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The issue is that the left wing position is "Let's leave", and the right wing position is "Let's stay forever while putting locals in charge of combating taliban ideology and running civilian affairs.".
If Afghani politicians had a clue how to shape a culture so as not to be pro-taliban, there wouldn't be a taliban.
This will mean that eventually we'll leave, the taliban will attack again, and then we're in a pickle.
Either the left just continually self-flaggellates and cucks about saying "We need to let them hit us UwU, we shouldn't invade because imperialism UwU", or the right loses its fucking mind and starts demanding we nuke the place.
This is because the left, deep down, knows the solution. That's why they keep referring to it as the only alternative to "Do nothing" while ignoring that "Just kill every single one of them" is the right wings idea of an alternative.
Invade afghanistan and make it a colony. Take over the governance. Teach them how to be a civilized nation. Take over their schools, their television, their newspapers. Control their culture. Occupy the place for a generation or two and keep cracking down on independence movements until they take on the character and quality of liberal democratic ones.
So Kipling, how heavy is that Burden?
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:36 pm
Young love! If you do not fall in the battle of Maiwand,
By Allah, someone is saving you as a symbol of shame!
With a drop of my sweetheart's blood,
Shed in defense of the Motherland,
Will I put a beauty spot on my forehead,
Such as would put to shame the rose in the garden!
by Suriyanakhon » Thu May 06, 2021 1:43 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Invade afghanistan and make it a colony. Take over the governance. Teach them how to be a civilized nation. Take over their schools, their television, their newspapers. Control their culture. Occupy the place for a generation or two and keep cracking down on independence movements until they take on the character and quality of liberal democratic ones.
by Insaanistan » Thu May 06, 2021 1:44 pm
Suriyanakhon wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:Invade afghanistan and make it a colony. Take over the governance. Teach them how to be a civilized nation. Take over their schools, their television, their newspapers. Control their culture. Occupy the place for a generation or two and keep cracking down on independence movements until they take on the character and quality of liberal democratic ones.
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