Human Rights Watch accuses Israel of apartheid.

[Odreria]

seems reasonable to me.

[Heloin]

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

So you think that the people of the United States should be forcibly removed to make way for Native Americans?

[Washington Resistance Army]

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

Muslims took Jerusalem from the Romans. Meanwhile the Romans were killing Jews like they were animals. Jews sided with the Muslims and fought beside them against the Romans. Even during the crusades

I'm p sure the Romans explicitly wrote protections into law for the Jewish religion and only subjugated them when they attempted to rebel. There was even at least one attempt to build a new temple for them by the Roman government.

[Jarvikan]

Ah yes!Because of course the Israelis segregate beaches and schools!

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

[Nakena]

Basically Israel is in fact every white supremacist wet dream, except that is jewish of course. So basically different team but functionally not too different.

It's a very sucessfull state that managed to come back to live after over two thousend years of world historical absence. A state with a clear racial and ethnically and religiously hierarchy, close-kin tribal and citizen ethos, militarized to the teeth (everyone include females serves) and its existing in a hostile environment fighting and claiming more and more lebensraum from primitive tribes surrounding them and ruthlessy subjecting them and cultivating lands it as it expands. All while formally maintaining semi-democratic norms and a fair degree of free sprech and free press etc. (except for obligatory military censorship but come on)

Whats not to love?

Israel doesn’t commit genocide.Simple as that.Israel protects Palestinian human rights.They shoot children as their parents have pushed them into the firing line to get a good photo for the mdedia.

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[Heloin]

Muslims took Jerusalem from the Romans. Meanwhile the Romans were killing Jews like they were animals. Jews sided with the Muslims and fought beside them against the Romans. Even during the crusades

I'm p sure the Romans explicitly wrote protections into law for the Jewish religion and only subjugated them when they attempted to rebel. There was even at least one attempt to build a new temple for them by the Roman government.

And expelled most Jews from Judea after the end of the Jewish-Roman Wars, several centuries before Muhammad did his thing.

[Romextly]

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

It was palestinian before it was jewish

[Heloin]

Someone living in Palestine is freely allowed to entry the illegal Israeli settlements in their own country?

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

Did you forget that you already replied to me?

[Suvadive Republic]

Muslims took Jerusalem from the Romans. Meanwhile the Romans were killing Jews like they were animals. Jews sided with the Muslims and fought beside them against the Romans. Even during the crusades

I'm p sure the Romans explicitly wrote protections into law for the Jewish religion and only subjugated them when they attempted to rebel. There was even at least one attempt to build a new temple for them by the Roman government.

In 380, Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire. After that, Jews were often persecuted and deprived of their rights by the Roman Leaders.
I cant be a witness as I didnt exist back then. But what I know, is what I get from Google.

[United Australasian Commonwealth]

Oh boy , this thread is going to be locked for sure

[Peatiktist]

Perhaps I worded what I said a bit confusingly.

What I meant was that it wasn't intended to be an apartheid state by the UN people who divided it up, but they didn't really think about what would happen past formation.

Israel has pretty much been an apartheid state since they started governing themselves.

I dont oppose the idea of a Jewish state. But what has this state become. Which is why we must stand up to this kind of racism. This goes to Iran, Saudi Arabia, China and North Korea as well.
Standing up to this apartheid state is not anti-semitism. Same way standing up to China is not anti-asian or standing up to Iran is not anti-Shia (even though some people do it with these intentions)

The Idea of a Jewish state is certainly a good idea, but there was poor excection. Obviously none of the areas that the UN brought up were completely unpopulated, but they could have at least chosen an area not populated by people who have historically had ideological issues between them and the jewish.

I personally feel that out of all the blatantly racist nations in the world, Israel isn't as bad as some of the others. But that doesn't mean what they do should just be tolerated for any reason.

[Nakena]

Oh boy , this thread is going to be locked for sure

It's going to be great. It's already up to a head start.

[Suvadive Republic]

I'm p sure the Romans explicitly wrote protections into law for the Jewish religion and only subjugated them when they attempted to rebel. There was even at least one attempt to build a new temple for them by the Roman government.

And expelled most Jews from Judea after the end of the Jewish-Roman Wars, several centuries before Muhammad did his thing.

Not Muhammad. It was during Umar ibn Al-Khattab that the conquest happened. Muhammad died a few years before the Rashidun Caliphate conquered Jerusalem.

[Peatiktist]

Oh boy , this thread is going to be locked for sure

Of course it is, it's just a matter of waiting for it to devolve into pointless side arguments and flaming.

[Tinhampton]

The Guardian wrote: "Human Rights Watch has accused Israeli officials of committing the crimes of apartheid and persecution, claiming the government enforces an overarching policy to “maintain the domination by Jewish Israelis over Palestinians”. In a report released on Tuesday, the New York-based advocacy group became the first major international rights body to level such allegations..."

Were they, really?

[Heloin]

And expelled most Jews from Judea after the end of the Jewish-Roman Wars, several centuries before Muhammad did his thing.

Not Muhammad. It was during Umar ibn Al-Khattab that the conquest happened. Muhammad died a few years before the Rashidun Caliphate conquered Rome.

I'm only talking about Palestine and Al-Khattab never conquered Rome.

[Suvadive Republic]

The Guardian wrote: "Human Rights Watch has accused Israeli officials of committing the crimes of apartheid and persecution, claiming the government enforces an overarching policy to “maintain the domination by Jewish Israelis over Palestinians”. In a report released on Tuesday, the New York-based advocacy group became the first major international rights body to level such allegations..."

Were they, really?

The Chinese Government also released reports denying allegations of Genocide in Uyghur and dened any human rights abuses.
So...........

[Suvadive Republic]

Not Muhammad. It was during Umar ibn Al-Khattab that the conquest happened. Muhammad died a few years before the Rashidun Caliphate conquered Rome.

I'm only talking about Palestine and Al-Khattab never conquered Rome.

Sorry sorry. Mistake

[Jarvikan]

It was never their own country.The invaded the Jews and took the territory.It was jewish before Islam even existed

So you think that the people of the United States should be forcibly removed to make way for Native Americans?

Yes,apart from the thirteen colonies area

[Washington Resistance Army]

So you think that the people of the United States should be forcibly removed to make way for Native Americans?

Yes,apart from the thirteen colonies area

Do you think natives just didn't live on the east coast or something?

[Heloin]

Yes,apart from the thirteen colonies area

Do you think natives just didn't live on the east coast or something?

Jarvikan hasn't heard the stories of Pocahontas or Squanto apparently.

[Picairn]

The Chinese Government also released reports denying allegations of Genocide in Uyghur and dened any human rights abuses.
So...........

You misunderstood Tin. What Tin was saying is that the UN and BTSelem (a non-profit based in Jerusalem) all recognized Israel as an apartheid state before HRW. BTSelem is not widely recognized as a major international rights body though. Their scope of operation was documenting war crimes in Palestinian territories from the start.

[The Huskar Social Union]

omg you antisemites! /s

So you think that the people of the United States should be forcibly removed to make way for Native Americans?

Yes,apart from the thirteen colonies area

Yeah because no native Americans lived in those areas at all right

[Tinhampton]

Well, some people who wrote a report for a subcommittee which has now been purged from UN e-premises - but do carry on, Picairn

[Insaanistan]

Muslims took Jerusalem from the Romans. Meanwhile the Romans were killing Jews like they were animals. Jews sided with the Muslims and fought beside them against the Romans. Even during the crusades

I'm p sure the Romans explicitly wrote protections into law for the Jewish religion and only subjugated them when they attempted to rebel. There was even at least one attempt to build a new temple for them by the Roman government.

Life as a Roman Jew generally sucked, hence one of the reasons why they were quite receptive to Muslim rule.