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The proposals to end the BBC licence fee agreement are:

An excellent idea; the socialists at the BBC have leeched off the British public for far too long.
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18%
An idea I'm open to discussing, though I have reservations about the timing and the specifics.
15
6%
A bad idea as framed; I'm open to reform of BBC funding, but not like this, and not now.
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11%
A terrible idea that the government is using to advance a cynical culture war agenda to save Johnson's skin.
80
30%
I have an altar to Sir David Attenborough in my living room and have watched every episode of Dr Who.
25
9%
Wait... you Brits actually have to pay for a TV licence?
68
26%
 
Total votes : 264
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:44 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
True, they haven't lost as much as expected so far, but it's still been a pretty bad 24 hours for them.

Have they lost control of any councils?

Yes, 3 in fact and 150 councilors and counting.
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The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:44 am

Three more councils: Conservatives hold Walsall and Wirral remains Labour-led NOC. Labour, meanwhile, hold Chorley.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:45 am

Labor holds Gower for a swing of 4.2 percent to Labor.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:45 am

Shrillland wrote:Three more councils: Conservatives hold Walsall and Wirral remains Labour-led NOC. Labour, meanwhile, hold Chorley.

Labor gets 16 seat majority in Chorley.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:46 am

Conservatives hold Ettrick, Roxburgh, and Berwickshire, their first hold in Scotland, with a 2.2% swing to the SNP.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:52 am

Well, we more or less have the idea, you guys go ahead, I've got to get off and get some sleep, I've been awake 18 hours. I'll be back when I can.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:52 am

Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:52 am

Shrillland wrote:Well, we more or less have the idea, you guys go ahead, I've got to get off and get some sleep, I've been awake 18 hours. I'll be back when I can.

Mad man.

Sleep tight.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 07, 2021 9:54 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%


Drakeford was asked why he thinks his party is doing better than Keirs and gave a vague answer.

Reminder that Drakeford is a Corbynist, so I think we know what he wanted to say.
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Postby CoraSpia » Fri May 07, 2021 9:55 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%


Drakeford was asked why he thinks his party is doing better than Keirs and gave a vague answer.

Reminder that Drakeford is a Corbynist, so I think we know what he wanted to say.

I thought he was one of those weird Christian socialists that pop up in Wales for some reason
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:55 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%


Drakeford was asked why he thinks his party is doing better than Keirs and gave a vague answer.

Reminder that Drakeford is a Corbynist, so I think we know what he wanted to say.

He wanted to rip off his shirt and reveal a hammer and sickle tattoo but held back.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:56 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%

Is that a hold?
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri May 07, 2021 9:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour won Clwyd South, increased their vote share by 7.7%

Is that a hold?

Yep.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:56 am

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 07, 2021 9:58 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Drakeford was asked why he thinks his party is doing better than Keirs and gave a vague answer.

Reminder that Drakeford is a Corbynist, so I think we know what he wanted to say.

I thought he was one of those weird Christian socialists that pop up in Wales for some reason


He's affiliated with them a lot, but no. Though he has a degree in latin.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:58 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:I thought he was one of those weird Christian socialists that pop up in Wales for some reason


He's affiliated with them a lot, but no. Though he has a degree in latin.

Nice quod
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:59 am

Conservatives gain Basildon from NOC.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 10:01 am

One of the candidates in Glasgow Southside was called Greg Energy Advisor.

What a name.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 10:05 am

Labour holds Neath with an increase of 5%
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 07, 2021 10:13 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I know who she is...

Its not Caroline Lucas, its Johnathan Bartley and Sian Berry jointly.

No Huskar, you are leader of the Greens!
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 10:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its not Caroline Lucas, its Johnathan Bartley and Sian Berry jointly.

No Huskar, you are leader of the Greens!

mfw
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 10:18 am

Plaidy bois held Ynys Mon.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri May 07, 2021 10:23 am

I guess she had her reasons but Lucas would have put the Greens in better shape if she had stayed leader for all the last 15 years. She's to environmentalism what Farage is to Brexit.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 10:25 am

Lib Dems hold Edinburgh Western with a spicy swing of 12.8% giving them 54.7% of the vote compared to the SNP's 33.5%. Both Labour and the Tory's took sizable hits so im assuming their voters jumped ship to the Lib Dems to maximise the Unionist vote.

And then on the flipside the Lib Dem vote implodes in Skye, Lochaber & Badenoch, declining by 7.1% and has seemingly went to the SNP for the most party who had a gain of 8.5%
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 07, 2021 10:27 am

42% of healthcare workers surveyed say they intended to vote Tory yesterday. In 2019, that number was 6%.

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/politic ... j0.twitter
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