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UK Politics Thread IX: Try turning the UK off and on again.

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The proposals to end the BBC licence fee agreement are:

An excellent idea; the socialists at the BBC have leeched off the British public for far too long.
48
18%
An idea I'm open to discussing, though I have reservations about the timing and the specifics.
15
6%
A bad idea as framed; I'm open to reform of BBC funding, but not like this, and not now.
28
11%
A terrible idea that the government is using to advance a cynical culture war agenda to save Johnson's skin.
80
30%
I have an altar to Sir David Attenborough in my living room and have watched every episode of Dr Who.
25
9%
Wait... you Brits actually have to pay for a TV licence?
68
26%
 
Total votes : 264

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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 8:54 am



Fantastic news. Congrats to her on making history. Im curious to see how the city council election goes.

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The Notorious Mad Jack
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri May 07, 2021 8:55 am

Tories have taken Plymouth from Labour.
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That is a huge red flag for LD. That's not a seat that should have even been close for them. SNP could very well get a majority.


On the other hand we held Orkney very comfortably; really not sure what to make of that, to be honest.


It's bit like trying to work out why the LibDems did so badly in Hartlepool, but have picked up some spectacular gains in Sunderland on swings of up to 50%. Several head scratchers today.

Also worth noting that the LD candidate increased their vote share to higher than in the byelection they were elected at.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 8:56 am

SNP HOLD Strathkelvin & Bearsden 2.1% swing to SNP
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Tories have taken Plymouth from Labour.
The Archregimancy wrote:
On the other hand we held Orkney very comfortably; really not sure what to make of that, to be honest.


It's bit like trying to work out why the LibDems did so badly in Hartlepool, but have picked up some spectacular gains in Sunderland on swings of up to 50%. Several head scratchers today.

Also worth noting that the LD candidate increased their vote share to higher than in the byelection they were elected at.


Not quite, there's still nine seats to go.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 8:59 am

Dresderstan wrote:SNP HOLD Strathkelvin & Bearsden 2.1% swing to SNP


We're now at the halfway point for the Scottish count today, and it's 21-3 to the SNP against the Lib Dems.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:00 am

Burnley remains Labour-led NOC.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:01 am

SNP HOLD Renfrewshire North & West 2.6% swing to Labour
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:02 am

Welsh Labor holds Delyn for a swing of .7 percent to Conservatives.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:03 am

Labour HOLD Delyn.
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Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
Remake the Free World, wipe the slate clean, a nation born and baptized in blood and fire shall be reborn again.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:03 am

Reckon the SNP will take Dumbarton from Labour? They were really close last time. Like less than 0.20% difference iirc
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:06 am

Conservatives hold Kent Council.
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Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:09 am

Con HOLD Aberconwy
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Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:10 am

Conservatives hold Aberconwy

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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:10 am

Labour hold Caerphilly with a 5.9% swing in their favour.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:11 am

Labour Holds Caerphilly with an increase of 10.7%
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:12 am

SNP hold Stirling
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:12 am

SNP HOLD Stirling 1.5% swing to the Conservatives

Labour HOLD Wrexham
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Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri May 07, 2021 9:17 am

SNP HOLD Rutherglen

EDIT: Ayr has now been delayed due to recounts.
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23 year old, PA male. Love sports like baseball, hockey and American football, enjoy video games and TV. Music chart nerd, can't live without it. I'm gay. Fuck neo-liberalism

Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
Remake the Free World, wipe the slate clean, a nation born and baptized in blood and fire shall be reborn again.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri May 07, 2021 9:17 am

Dresderstan wrote:SNP HOLD Stirling 1.5% swing to the Conservatives

Labour HOLD Wrexham


what are the chances Labor gets an outright majority in the Welsh Parliament?

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri May 07, 2021 9:18 am

San Lumen wrote:The Greens making gains is a great thing. Their leader Caroline Lucas seems like a great person. She's being interviewed on BBC.


That moment when you realise nobody knows who the leaders of the Greens are.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:18 am

Conservatives hold North East Lincolnshire
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:18 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The Greens making gains is a great thing. Their leader Caroline Lucas seems like a great person. She's being interviewed on BBC.


That moment when you realise nobody knows who the leaders of the Greens are.


I know who she is...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:20 am

Shrillland wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
That moment when you realise nobody knows who the leaders of the Greens are.


I know who she is...

Its not Caroline Lucas, its Johnathan Bartley and Sian Berry jointly.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 07, 2021 9:20 am

Ah, he's right, nobody knows who they are. Anyway...

Conservatives hold Broxbourne
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 07, 2021 9:21 am

Conservatives hold Preseli Pembrokeshire but Labour increased its vote by 9.3%
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