UK Politics Thread IX: Try turning the UK off and on again.

[The Blaatschapen]

I want to call this porngate, but I'm afraid it's a website.

[The Archregimancy]

A Neil Parish Venn diagram:

[Ifreann]

A Neil Parish Venn diagram:

(Image)

Haha, brilliant.

[Glevenschester]

Look, just because you don't get hot and horny over heavy farm equipment doesn't mean you should judge the silent Devon majority who fantasise about their brand new combine harvester.

I, for one, support the rights of tractor fetishists to explore their preferences, as any social liberal should be willing to do.

Just so long as the tractors and combine harvesters are over 16, mind; there are limits.

No, combine harvesters mature later than people, they have to be over 21.

Following Boris’ new law it is illegal to “promote relations between man and machine as a pretended family relationship in any maintained school.”

[Hurdergaryp]

No, combine harvesters mature later than people, they have to be over 21.

Following Boris’ new law it is illegal to “promote relations between man and machine as a pretended family relationship in any maintained school.”

That is a bit hypocritical, given how it is common knowledge that Boris had or still has a rather intimate relationship with a fully functional Churchill Mk. VII tank.

[The Archregimancy]

Following Boris’ new law it is illegal to “promote relations between man and machine as a pretended family relationship in any maintained school.”

That is a bit hypocritical, given how it is common knowledge that Boris had or still has a rather intimate relationship with a fully functional Churchill Mk. VII tank.

It's not necessarily the Prime Minister's intimate relationships with tanks that worry me; it's his tendency to lie about those relationships while introducing legislation that would restrict similar relationships despite his past personal record of hot tank love.

And besides, just how many tanks has the Prime Minister produced? And via how many different tank manufacturers? I think the public has a right to know.

[Ostroeuropa]

So... Tractors eh?

[Fartsniffage]

So... Tractors eh?

He was head of the sub committee on environmental and farming affairs.

Farming affairs takes a whole new meaning now.

[Ostroeuropa]

So... Tractors eh?

He was head of the sub committee on environmental and farming affairs.

Farming affairs takes a whole new meaning now.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... &q=cornhub

[The Blaatschapen]

So... Tractors eh?

He was head of the sub committee on environmental and farming affairs.

Farming affairs takes a whole new meaning now.

Why is environmental affairs a sub committee? With global warming being such a big thing, that should be a dominating committee.

[Fartsniffage]

He was head of the sub committee on environmental and farming affairs.

Farming affairs takes a whole new meaning now.

Why is environmental affairs a sub committee? With global warming being such a big thing, that should be a dominating committee.

Run by a conservative government. They love to be dominated.

[The Archregimancy]

He was head of the sub committee on environmental and farming affairs.

Farming affairs takes a whole new meaning now.

Why is environmental affairs a sub committee? With global warming being such a big thing, that should be a dominating committee.

In full, it's the committee on 'Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'; it's not a subcommittee, but rather a full Select Committee that mirrors a government department (in this case DEFRA - the Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs). Chairing a select committee, as Mr Parish did, is therefore a reasonably senior post for a backbencher - though not equivalent to holding a ministerial brief, of course.

The committee's website is here:

https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... committee/

Environmental issues are key to the committee's current work.

Perhaps because it's a bank holiday weekend, Mr Parish is still listed as the chair under the 'membership' tab.

[The Huskar Social Union]

A Neil Parish Venn diagram:

(Image)

Amazing.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

https://youtu.be/46XXVsIUmTM?&t=47
was this scene derived from reality lmao?
prince philip be like "why dont we throw the prime minister in jail?"

[The Archregimancy]

https://youtu.be/46XXVsIUmTM?&t=47
was this scene derived from reality lmao?
prince philip be like "why dont we throw the prime minister in jail?"

There are multiple scenes in that clip, but assuming you're referring to the first one, The Crown - which I don't watch - is likely misrepresenting an incident in 1968, when Cecil King, the chairman of the publisher of the Daily Mirror, instigated a meeting with Prince Philip's uncle Lord Mountbatten and a few others to discuss overthrowing Prime Minister Harold Wilson and putting Mountbatten at the head of the post-coup administration. Mountbatten and the others present point-blank told King that his proposal amounted to treason, and they wanted nothing to do with it. At this point King instructed the Daily Mirror to publish a front page article that he'd written himself headlined 'Enough is Enough' explicitly calling for Wilson to be removed by any means necessary, overriding the newspaper's editorial independence in the process. The board of the publishing company then immediately forced King out when he refused to resign.

So did a newspaper baron attempt to convince Prince Philip's uncle to support a coup? Yes. Did it get much beyond a single meeting where everyone refused to back the idea, and a single newspaper article? No. Did Prince Philip involved in any way? No.

Oddly, though, the Mirror doesn't seem to be called up nearly as often for its front page call for the unconstitutional removal of a Labour Prime Minister as the Mail does for its infamous 1930s 'hurrah for the Blackshirts' article.

[San Lumen]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna26809

U.K. lawmaker resigns after watching porn in Parliament
Neil Parish, a member of Parliament since 2010, announced his decision Saturday after pressure from members of his own Conservative Party seeking to defuse sleaze allegations.

[The Huskar Social Union]

by-election lets goooooooooo

[The Huskar Social Union]

Four days till voting day, i iz very excited.

[Ifreann]

Four days till voting day, i iz very excited.

Nothing like a good vote.

[The Blaatschapen]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna26809

U.K. lawmaker resigns after watching porn in Parliament
Neil Parish, a member of Parliament since 2010, announced his decision Saturday after pressure from members of his own Conservative Party seeking to defuse sleaze allegations.

Thanks, we weren't aware of this yet.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Four days till voting day, i iz very excited.

Nothing like a good vote.

Go to work at 6am for my fill shift, pop up to the voting booth after work at 10:30, then dander round to the house and enjoy the political shenanigans for the rest of the day. Lovely.

Speaking of political shenanigans i believe ive narrowed down how im gona vote this time around, which wont be too surprising to any of you i imagine but the order will most likely be as follows:

1st Preference: Alliance Party: The local Candidate, Donnamarie Higgins, seems like a decent enough sort, pro LGBT, feminist, seems to have a big focus on mental health and apprenticeship programs from what ive seen of her campaigning material lately which is all good stuff, especially mental health which matters to me personally a lot with some of my own... experiences the last few years, which im still a bit hesitant talking about here on in full detail, but its an issue that resonates quite strongly with me this election.

Im more voting for the party overall and their work to reform Stormont and its institutions (offices of FM/DFM, community designation system etc as ive talked about on here before), as well as the legal work they have done introducing new laws for stalking making it an offence for the first time, updating laws for sexual offences (upskirting, revenge porn etc) rather than for the local candidate, but she seems like a decent enough sort which is good too and helps with the decision. I know Alliance is not gona win a seat here, but its still the party i support the most, so im backing them and hopefully they can build on it for local elections in the future, who knows we might get an APNI councillor round my way some point in the next few years if they do well enough here.

2nd Preference: SDLP: The main reason im voting SDLP is that even though the party overall has annoyed me a few times over the last two years, they are the best placed party to take a seat from Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein dominates my home constituency, they have for years and the place is a deprived fucking mess, so having them get a bit of a wake up call by losing another seat would be pretty great imo.

Their local candidate, Paul Doherty also comes across as a very nice fella overall, he has his own foodbank he has worked in for a while now, he took part in a food drive for Ukraine, got a truck full of supplies raised by his team and literally brought it to the Ukrainian border which was pretty fucking awesome ngl. He also worked in the health service for 14 years, and the NHS in NI is a fucking mess and needs serious work, so candidates prioritising that are gona get some support from me. He is pro life and is against Abortion, which is a knock against him for me (and a greater issue i have with the party at large) but as far as i am concerned there are more positives here than negatives, so he will be getting my vote too.

3rd Preference: Green Party NI: They are the Greens, i like Green Politics (mostly) and they are a decent enough sort, especially their local candidate Stevie Maginn who is focusing on reforming how relationship and sex education is taught to children in school, mental health and the lack of access to it for kids in west belfast, housing waiting lists (which can be fucking atrocious in this part of the city), expanding cycling infrastructure etc. They will get a transfer from me but its probably not gona get to them honestly and will stay with the SDLP as i cant see the Greens getting close to winning a seat.

Im also considering a fourth preference for one of the local independents who is from an architect background and is a single issue candidate for housing, but he will most likely get eliminated early on so i dont think there would be much point. He would probably be out of the running early on and i want to give my first preference to the Alliance party.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

https://youtu.be/46XXVsIUmTM?&t=47
was this scene derived from reality lmao?
prince philip be like "why dont we throw the prime minister in jail?"

There are multiple scenes in that clip, but assuming you're referring to the first one, The Crown - which I don't watch - is likely misrepresenting an incident in 1968, when Cecil King, the chairman of the publisher of the Daily Mirror, instigated a meeting with Prince Philip's uncle Lord Mountbatten and a few others to discuss overthrowing Prime Minister Harold Wilson and putting Mountbatten at the head of the post-coup administration. Mountbatten and the others present point-blank told King that his proposal amounted to treason, and they wanted nothing to do with it. At this point King instructed the Daily Mirror to publish a front page article that he'd written himself headlined 'Enough is Enough' explicitly calling for Wilson to be removed by any means necessary, overriding the newspaper's editorial independence in the process. The board of the publishing company then immediately forced King out when he refused to resign.

So did a newspaper baron attempt to convince Prince Philip's uncle to support a coup? Yes. Did it get much beyond a single meeting where everyone refused to back the idea, and a single newspaper article? No. Did Prince Philip involved in any way? No.

Oddly, though, the Mirror doesn't seem to be called up nearly as often for its front page call for the unconstitutional removal of a Labour Prime Minister as the Mail does for its infamous 1930s 'hurrah for the Blackshirts' article.

No it's a scene set in 1974. Also not what happened, came out a few years ago Mountbatten loved the idea even more than he did abusing children.

[The Archregimancy]

There are multiple scenes in that clip, but assuming you're referring to the first one, The Crown - which I don't watch - is likely misrepresenting an incident in 1968, when Cecil King, the chairman of the publisher of the Daily Mirror, instigated a meeting with Prince Philip's uncle Lord Mountbatten and a few others to discuss overthrowing Prime Minister Harold Wilson and putting Mountbatten at the head of the post-coup administration. Mountbatten and the others present point-blank told King that his proposal amounted to treason, and they wanted nothing to do with it. At this point King instructed the Daily Mirror to publish a front page article that he'd written himself headlined 'Enough is Enough' explicitly calling for Wilson to be removed by any means necessary, overriding the newspaper's editorial independence in the process. The board of the publishing company then immediately forced King out when he refused to resign.

So did a newspaper baron attempt to convince Prince Philip's uncle to support a coup? Yes. Did it get much beyond a single meeting where everyone refused to back the idea, and a single newspaper article? No. Did Prince Philip involved in any way? No.

Oddly, though, the Mirror doesn't seem to be called up nearly as often for its front page call for the unconstitutional removal of a Labour Prime Minister as the Mail does for its infamous 1930s 'hurrah for the Blackshirts' article.

No it's a scene set in 1974. Also not what happened, came out a few years ago Mountbatten loved the idea even more than he did abusing children.

I'm obviously mistaken about the date. But I think we'll need a source for both parts of the underlined, please.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Sinn Fein approached New IRA group Saoradh over potential ‘co-operation’ on Irish unity referendum

Sinn Fein sought a potential “co-operation” agreement with dissident republicans to achieve a border poll, according to the Sunday Times.

The newspaper reported that the party’s chairman Declan Kearney made direct contact with Saoradh – widely considered to be the political wing of the New IRA – in late 2020.

According to the Sunday Times, Mr Kearney wrote to Brian Kenna who acts as the chairman for Saoradh, offering to arrange a meeting on promoting “engagement on developing a common strategy and co-operation" around a referendum.

He also offered an invite for a “delegation” from the dissident group to “meet with myself and other members of the Sinn Fein leadership”.

Sinn Fein defended the move to the newspaper arguing “dialogue and engagement” is a “vital part of the peace process”.

The New IRA has previously claimed it was responsible for the murder of journalist and author Lyra McKee in Londonderry in April 2019 as she observed rioting in the Creggan area.

Sinn Fein previously condemned the killing “in the strongest terms possible” in 2019, just a year before the reported approach to the group was made.

=CONTINUES=

So it seems Sinn Fein communicated with Saoradh, the political wing of the new IRA, with an offer to cooperate in regards to planning a referendum on a United Ireland, citing a change in public opinion due to brexit and the pandemic.

Great outlook Sinn Fein, terrific, well done! Especially doing it a year after they murdered Lyra McKee.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

No it's a scene set in 1974. Also not what happened, came out a few years ago Mountbatten loved the idea even more than he did abusing children.

I'm obviously mistaken about the date. But I think we'll need a source for both parts of the underlined, please.

The revelation that he wasn't nearly as disinterested as has been pretended was in Andrew Lownie's book, which I believe also (though unlike the coup it's hardly new) covers the paedophilia.