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UK Politics Thread IX: Try turning the UK off and on again.

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The proposals to end the BBC licence fee agreement are:

An excellent idea; the socialists at the BBC have leeched off the British public for far too long.
48
18%
An idea I'm open to discussing, though I have reservations about the timing and the specifics.
15
6%
A bad idea as framed; I'm open to reform of BBC funding, but not like this, and not now.
28
11%
A terrible idea that the government is using to advance a cynical culture war agenda to save Johnson's skin.
80
30%
I have an altar to Sir David Attenborough in my living room and have watched every episode of Dr Who.
25
9%
Wait... you Brits actually have to pay for a TV licence?
68
26%
 
Total votes : 264

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:06 am

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:All right, it's now time, and with wishing best of luck for Philjia's run(which I should've done before)...here's my take on next week. Remember, with local councils, my predictions are a little less confident given my knowledge, but enough for me to give rough ideas, and I'll only be showing where I think there will be changes.

At first glance, nothing's going to change in the Assembly, Unionists will be the largest group, Nationalists second, Non-Aligned third....but that's a deceiving picture. For the first time in modern NI's history, Sinn Fein is actually expected to have a comfortable lead in seat totals, averaging 27% in the polls, which means that Michelle O'Neill will be the first Nationalist and Left Wing First Minister in the country's history. Again, this is largely symbolic as the FM and the DFM are actually co-leaders with no distinction and the DUP's Jeffrey Donaldson will be Deputy, but it, combined with the rise of the Alliance Party, expected to win its first seats west of the Bann, shows both Northern Ireland's changes and a huge want of confidence in Conservative politics as a whole. Sinn Fein will stay more or less where it is at 26-29 seats, DUP will go down to about 19-22, APNI up to 15, UUP up to 12-14, TUV 5, Greens 4, People Before Profit still hanging on at 1.

Since STV's the rule in Scottish Councils, NOCs are also common, and changes are more towards who'll be leading them. However, the SNP's polls are a lot higher now than they were four years ago, and the Tories' floundering combined with a relatively weak Labour that can't take the initiative means that there will be some council changes, and although Labour will gain some seats, it's the SNP's to lose. Again, this doesn't necessarily say what the actual leadership will look like, just the seat totals themselves. Also, STV means we won't know the full results that night, but you knew that already, right?

Going Full SNP:
Aberdeen
Clackmannanshire
Dundee
East Ayrshire
Glasgow
Renfrewshire

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Aberdeenshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Dumfries and Galloway(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
East Renfrewshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Highland(Independent to SNP-led)
North Ayrshire(NOC to SNP-led)
Perth and Kinross(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
South Ayrshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Stirling(Conservative-led to SNP-led)

Welsh polls are a little harder to find, but the ones we have for Senedd preferences show no real differences. Even so, the same issues affecting Labour in Scotland are prevalent here, despite a good tailwind, Labour's fairly weak reputation means that their gains will be limited whilst Plaid Cymru, the Lib Dems, and the Greens will be able to take up the slack. Even so, Labour will do fairly well and take some council majorities. Welsh councils will also get to go to STV from FPTP, though it won't take effect until the next election in '27. Plus, boundary reviews have meant an overall loss of 23 seats country wide, which does change the math somewhat as some councils shrink drastically whilst others grow.

Going Full Labour:
Bridgend
Cardiff
Flintshire
Merthyr Tydfil

Going Full PC:
Carmarthenshire
Ceredigion

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Conwy(Conservative-led to Independent-led)
Denbighshire(Conservative-led to NOC)
Monmouthshire(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Vale of Glamorgan(Conservative-led to Labour-led)

Now we're arrived in England, and London is going to provide some of the best pickup opportunities for the Liberal Democrats from some of the more traditionally upper-class blue councils, though the number of council they gain won't be proportionate. Polls actually don't show a sizeable change in Lib Dem support and a small increase for the Greens, but I think enough disgusted Tories may choose Lib Dem to turn the tide in several places. Greens will also gain council seats, particularly in the safer red councils like Islington. 2018 was Labour's best result in years, and they're poised to surpass it further as the Tories will be decimated across the city...though not the City, they had their vote already.

Going Full Labour:
Wandsworth
Westminster

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Barnet(Conservative to Labour-led)
Bexley(Conservative to NOC)
Havering(Conservative-led to Havering Residents Association-led)
Hillingdon(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Kensington and Chelsea(Conservative to NOC)


Mayoral Races:
Croydon: Val Shawcross(Labour) elected
Hackney: Phillip Glanville(Labour) re-elected
Lewisham: Damien Egan(Labour) re-elected
Newham: Rokshana Fiaz(Labour) re-elected
Tower Hamlets: John Biggs(Labour) re-elected

Oh, doing England's always a mess because of how the councils are set up, it's where most of my mistakes from last year came about. Even so, the trends away from the Conservatives and towards Labour and the Lib Dems still hold. There's also a ballot measure in Bristol over whether they'll keep their separately elected Mayor, which I think they'll vote to do.

Going Full Independent/Residents Party:
Castle Point(Canvey Island Independent)
Elmbridge(Elmbridge Residents Association)

Going Full Labour:
Amber Valley
Crawley
Harlow
Kirklees
Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Nuneaton and Bedworth
Plymouth
Southhampton
Swindon
West Lancashire
Worthing

Going Full Liberal Democrat:
Gosport
Westmorland and Furness(New council from Cumbria's split)
Woking

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Basildon(Conservative to NOC)
Basingstoke and Deane(Conservative to NOC)
Brentwood(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Bolton(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Cannock Chase(Conservative to NOC)
Colchester(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Cumberland(New council from Cumbria's split: Conservative-led)
Derby(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Dudley(Conservative to NOC)
Hart(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Hartlepool(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Huntingdonshire(Conservative to NOC)
Maidstone(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Milton Keynes(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
North Hertfordshire(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Pendle(Conservative to NOC)
Portsmouth(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Reigate and Banstead(Conservative to NOC)
Rugby(Conservative to NOC)
Somerset(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Southend-on-Sea(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Stockport(Liberal Democrat-led to NOC)
Thurrock(Conservative to NOC)
Walsall(Conservative to NOC)
Welwyn Hatfield(Conservative to NOC)
West Oxfordshire(Conservative to NOC)
Wokingham(Conservative to NOC)
Worcester(Conservative to NOC)

Mayoral Races:
South Yorkshire: Oliver Coppard(Labour hold) Elected
Watford: Peter Taylor(Liberal Democrat) Re-elected


In short, a bad week of counts for anyone with blue rosettes.


Conservatives losing Westminster council would be a very big deal. I hope I can watch the live stream of bbc’s election coverage. I was able to last year.

Shrilland is, shall we say, being slightly overoptimistic. My best-case scenario for Labour would give them 24 to the Conservatives' 30 on Westminster. They should win Barnet (IDK how you get NOC there, it's a straight Labour-Tory fight) and Wandsworth though. Bexley, Hillingdon, and Kensington and Chelsea will all stay Conservative and I have no idea about Havering.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:20 am

Shrillland wrote:All right, it's now time, and with wishing best of luck for Philjia's run(which I should've done before)...here's my take on next week. Remember, with local councils, my predictions are a little less confident given my knowledge, but enough for me to give rough ideas, and I'll only be showing where I think there will be changes.

At first glance, nothing's going to change in the Assembly, Unionists will be the largest group, Nationalists second, Non-Aligned third....but that's a deceiving picture. For the first time in modern NI's history, Sinn Fein is actually expected to have a comfortable lead in seat totals, averaging 27% in the polls, which means that Michelle O'Neill will be the first Nationalist and Left Wing First Minister in the country's history. Again, this is largely symbolic as the FM and the DFM are actually co-leaders with no distinction and the DUP's Jeffrey Donaldson will be Deputy, but it, combined with the rise of the Alliance Party, expected to win its first seats west of the Bann, shows both Northern Ireland's changes and a huge want of confidence in Conservative politics as a whole. Sinn Fein will stay more or less where it is at 26-29 seats, DUP will go down to about 19-22, APNI up to 15, UUP up to 12-14, TUV 5, Greens 4, People Before Profit still hanging on at 1.

Since STV's the rule in Scottish Councils, NOCs are also common, and changes are more towards who'll be leading them. However, the SNP's polls are a lot higher now than they were four years ago, and the Tories' floundering combined with a relatively weak Labour that can't take the initiative means that there will be some council changes, and although Labour will gain some seats, it's the SNP's to lose. Again, this doesn't necessarily say what the actual leadership will look like, just the seat totals themselves. Also, STV means we won't know the full results that night, but you knew that already, right?

Going Full SNP:
Aberdeen
Clackmannanshire
Dundee
East Ayrshire
Glasgow
Renfrewshire

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Aberdeenshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Dumfries and Galloway(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
East Renfrewshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Highland(Independent to SNP-led)
North Ayrshire(NOC to SNP-led)
Perth and Kinross(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
South Ayrshire(Conservative-led to SNP-led)
Stirling(Conservative-led to SNP-led)

Welsh polls are a little harder to find, but the ones we have for Senedd preferences show no real differences. Even so, the same issues affecting Labour in Scotland are prevalent here, despite a good tailwind, Labour's fairly weak reputation means that their gains will be limited whilst Plaid Cymru, the Lib Dems, and the Greens will be able to take up the slack. Even so, Labour will do fairly well and take some council majorities. Welsh councils will also get to go to STV from FPTP, though it won't take effect until the next election in '27. Plus, boundary reviews have meant an overall loss of 23 seats country wide, which does change the math somewhat as some councils shrink drastically whilst others grow.

Going Full Labour:
Bridgend
Cardiff
Flintshire
Merthyr Tydfil

Going Full PC:
Carmarthenshire
Ceredigion

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Conwy(Conservative-led to Independent-led)
Denbighshire(Conservative-led to NOC)
Monmouthshire(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Vale of Glamorgan(Conservative-led to Labour-led)

Now we're arrived in England, and London is going to provide some of the best pickup opportunities for the Liberal Democrats from some of the more traditionally upper-class blue councils, though the number of council they gain won't be proportionate. Polls actually don't show a sizeable change in Lib Dem support and a small increase for the Greens, but I think enough disgusted Tories may choose Lib Dem to turn the tide in several places. Greens will also gain council seats, particularly in the safer red councils like Islington. 2018 was Labour's best result in years, and they're poised to surpass it further as the Tories will be decimated across the city...though not the City, they had their vote already.

Going Full Labour:
Wandsworth
Westminster

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Barnet(Conservative to Labour-led)
Bexley(Conservative to NOC)
Havering(Conservative-led to Havering Residents Association-led)
Hillingdon(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Kensington and Chelsea(Conservative to NOC)


Mayoral Races:
Croydon: Val Shawcross(Labour) elected
Hackney: Phillip Glanville(Labour) re-elected
Lewisham: Damien Egan(Labour) re-elected
Newham: Rokshana Fiaz(Labour) re-elected
Tower Hamlets: John Biggs(Labour) re-elected

Oh, doing England's always a mess because of how the councils are set up, it's where most of my mistakes from last year came about. Even so, the trends away from the Conservatives and towards Labour and the Lib Dems still hold. There's also a ballot measure in Bristol over whether they'll keep their separately elected Mayor, which I think they'll vote to do.

Going Full Independent/Residents Party:
Castle Point(Canvey Island Independent)
Elmbridge(Elmbridge Residents Association)

Going Full Labour:
Amber Valley
Crawley
Harlow
Kirklees
Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Nuneaton and Bedworth
Plymouth
Southhampton
Swindon
West Lancashire
Worthing

Going Full Liberal Democrat:
Gosport
Westmorland and Furness(New council from Cumbria's split)
Woking

Going NOC or Changing NOC:
Basildon(Conservative to NOC)
Basingstoke and Deane(Conservative to NOC)
Brentwood(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Bolton(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Cannock Chase(Conservative to NOC)
Colchester(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Cumberland(New council from Cumbria's split: Conservative-led)
Derby(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Dudley(Conservative to NOC)
Hart(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Hartlepool(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Huntingdonshire(Conservative to NOC)
Maidstone(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Milton Keynes(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
North Hertfordshire(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Pendle(Conservative to NOC)
Portsmouth(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Reigate and Banstead(Conservative to NOC)
Rugby(Conservative to NOC)
Somerset(Conservative-led to Liberal Democrat-led)
Southend-on-Sea(Conservative-led to Labour-led)
Stockport(Liberal Democrat-led to NOC)
Thurrock(Conservative to NOC)
Walsall(Conservative to NOC)
Welwyn Hatfield(Conservative to NOC)
West Oxfordshire(Conservative to NOC)
Wokingham(Conservative to NOC)
Worcester(Conservative to NOC)

Mayoral Races:
South Yorkshire: Oliver Coppard(Labour hold) Elected
Watford: Peter Taylor(Liberal Democrat) Re-elected


In short, a bad week of counts for anyone with blue rosettes.


While I would be delighted if your assessment is proven to be correct, I think it fair to note that it's much more optimistic about LibDem gains than internal LibDem calculations would suggest.

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Postby El Lazaro » Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:36 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/27/uk-investigation-after-complaint-about-mp-watching-porn-in-parliament


UK investigation after complaint about MP watching porn in parliament

Top tip: Dont watch porn at work

Literally 1984

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:29 am

Very disappointed by the Elections Act. I have far better ideas for electoral reform. Return to the one-eighth threshold (12.5% of the vote), deposit for parliamentary elections set at £5,000.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:38 am

This was surely inevitable given that so many people were aware of the accusations, but we have a name on the Tory (alleged) porn watcher.

It's Neil Parish, MP for Tiverton & Honiton. While I imagine it will be quickly locked and edited soon, as of this writing, his Wikipedia page has been edited to read 'loves porn' across the top.

Mr Parish won 60% of the vote in his constituency in the last general election.

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Postby Arvenia » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:45 am

The Archregimancy wrote:This was surely inevitable given that so many people were aware of the accusations, but we have a name on the Tory (alleged) porn watcher.

It's Neil Parish, MP for Tiverton & Honiton. While I imagine it will be quickly locked and edited soon, as of this writing, his Wikipedia page has been edited to read 'loves porn' across the top.

Mr Parish won 60% of the vote in his constituency in the last general election.

Where can I find that edit?
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:54 am

Arvenia wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:This was surely inevitable given that so many people were aware of the accusations, but we have a name on the Tory (alleged) porn watcher.

It's Neil Parish, MP for Tiverton & Honiton. While I imagine it will be quickly locked and edited soon, as of this writing, his Wikipedia page has been edited to read 'loves porn' across the top.

Mr Parish won 60% of the vote in his constituency in the last general election.

Where can I find that edit?


Alas, I neglected to take a screen shot - and his page is now protected from vandalism edits.

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Postby Arvenia » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:37 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Where can I find that edit?


Alas, I neglected to take a screen shot - and his page is now protected from vandalism edits.

Okay.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:44 am

Sinn Fein remain on course to land First Minister position in latest LucidTalk poll

First Preference Vote Share:

SF: 26% (=)
DUP: 20% (+1)
APNI: 14% (-2)
UUP: 14% (+1)
SDLP: 10% (-1)
TUV: 9% (=)
GRN: 3% (+1)
PBP: 2% (=)
OTH/IND: 2% (=)

Second Preference Vote Share per party:

SDLP: 44%
PBP: 14%
APNI: 11%
GRN: 6%
OTH/IND: 6%
UUP: 1%
DUP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 17%
UUP: 44%
TUV: 38%
OTH/IND: 6%
APNI: 2%
SDLP: 2%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 5%
SDLP: 33%
UUP: 20%
SF: 19%
GRN: 15%
OTH/IND: 3%
DUP: 3%
PBP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
DUP: 52%
APNI: 13%
SDLP: 10%
TUV: 10%
OTH/IND: 7%
PBP: 1%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
SF: 46%
APNI: 16%
GRN: 9%
OTH/IND: 8%
PBP: 6%
UUP: 6%
DUP: 2%
1st Preference vote only: 7%
DUP: 74%
UUP: 11%
IND/OTH: 6%
1st Preference vote only: 9%


--Almost equal amounts of Sinn Fein and SDLP supporters plan to transfer to the other party, 46% of SDLP supporters transferring to Sinn Fein and 44% of Sinn Fein supporters transferring to SDLP.
--Unionist voters overwhelmingly transferring to other Unionist parties, with 84% of DUP voters transferring to the TUV and UUP, 62% of UUP supporters to the DUP and TUV, 85% of TUV supporters to DUP and UUP.
--52% of Alliance supporters say they will transfer to a Nationalist party, with only 23% going towards a Unionist Party.
--Alliance is the most popular second transfer party for Greens, with 27% promising to transfer to Alliance.
--39% of Green supporters will transfer to a Nationalist party, but just 13% to a Unionist Party.
--17% of Sinn Fein supporters wont second transfer to another party, the highest percentage, followed by the TUV on 9%.

Ill add more later but you can read the article, im off to have dinner.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:53 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Where can I find that edit?


Alas, I neglected to take a screen shot - and his page is now protected from vandalism edits.


The edit in question has also been purged from the public record.
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Postby Deblar » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:27 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Alas, I neglected to take a screen shot - and his page is now protected from vandalism edits.


The edit in question has also been purged from the public record.

literally 1984

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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:56 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Sinn Fein remain on course to land First Minister position in latest LucidTalk poll

First Preference Vote Share:

SF: 26% (=)
DUP: 20% (+1)
APNI: 14% (-2)
UUP: 14% (+1)
SDLP: 10% (-1)
TUV: 9% (=)
GRN: 3% (+1)
PBP: 2% (=)
OTH/IND: 2% (=)

Second Preference Vote Share per party:

SDLP: 44%
PBP: 14%
APNI: 11%
GRN: 6%
OTH/IND: 6%
UUP: 1%
DUP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 17%
UUP: 44%
TUV: 38%
OTH/IND: 6%
APNI: 2%
SDLP: 2%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 5%
SDLP: 33%
UUP: 20%
SF: 19%
GRN: 15%
OTH/IND: 3%
DUP: 3%
PBP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
DUP: 52%
APNI: 13%
SDLP: 10%
TUV: 10%
OTH/IND: 7%
PBP: 1%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
SF: 46%
APNI: 16%
GRN: 9%
OTH/IND: 8%
PBP: 6%
UUP: 6%
DUP: 2%
1st Preference vote only: 7%
DUP: 74%
UUP: 11%
IND/OTH: 6%
1st Preference vote only: 9%


--Almost equal amounts of Sinn Fein and SDLP supporters plan to transfer to the other party, 46% of SDLP supporters transferring to Sinn Fein and 44% of Sinn Fein supporters transferring to SDLP.
--Unionist voters overwhelmingly transferring to other Unionist parties, with 84% of DUP voters transferring to the TUV and UUP, 62% of UUP supporters to the DUP and TUV, 85% of TUV supporters to DUP and UUP.
--52% of Alliance supporters say they will transfer to a Nationalist party, with only 23% going towards a Unionist Party.
--Alliance is the most popular second transfer party for Greens, with 27% promising to transfer to Alliance.
--39% of Green supporters will transfer to a Nationalist party, but just 13% to a Unionist Party.
--17% of Sinn Fein supporters wont second transfer to another party, the highest percentage, followed by the TUV on 9%.

Ill add more later but you can read the article, im off to have dinner.


I'm entertained that there's a statistically measurable subset of SF voters who will apparently vote for the DUP on second preference.

And yes, it's only 1%; but that's still more than I was expecting.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:05 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Sinn Fein remain on course to land First Minister position in latest LucidTalk poll

First Preference Vote Share:

SF: 26% (=)
DUP: 20% (+1)
APNI: 14% (-2)
UUP: 14% (+1)
SDLP: 10% (-1)
TUV: 9% (=)
GRN: 3% (+1)
PBP: 2% (=)
OTH/IND: 2% (=)

Second Preference Vote Share per party:

SDLP: 44%
PBP: 14%
APNI: 11%
GRN: 6%
OTH/IND: 6%
UUP: 1%
DUP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 17%
UUP: 44%
TUV: 38%
OTH/IND: 6%
APNI: 2%
SDLP: 2%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 5%
SDLP: 33%
UUP: 20%
SF: 19%
GRN: 15%
OTH/IND: 3%
DUP: 3%
PBP: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
DUP: 52%
APNI: 13%
SDLP: 10%
TUV: 10%
OTH/IND: 7%
PBP: 1%
GRN: 1%
1st Preference vote only: 6%
SF: 46%
APNI: 16%
GRN: 9%
OTH/IND: 8%
PBP: 6%
UUP: 6%
DUP: 2%
1st Preference vote only: 7%
DUP: 74%
UUP: 11%
IND/OTH: 6%
1st Preference vote only: 9%


--Almost equal amounts of Sinn Fein and SDLP supporters plan to transfer to the other party, 46% of SDLP supporters transferring to Sinn Fein and 44% of Sinn Fein supporters transferring to SDLP.
--Unionist voters overwhelmingly transferring to other Unionist parties, with 84% of DUP voters transferring to the TUV and UUP, 62% of UUP supporters to the DUP and TUV, 85% of TUV supporters to DUP and UUP.
--52% of Alliance supporters say they will transfer to a Nationalist party, with only 23% going towards a Unionist Party.
--Alliance is the most popular second transfer party for Greens, with 27% promising to transfer to Alliance.
--39% of Green supporters will transfer to a Nationalist party, but just 13% to a Unionist Party.
--17% of Sinn Fein supporters wont second transfer to another party, the highest percentage, followed by the TUV on 9%.

Ill add more later but you can read the article, im off to have dinner.


I'm entertained that there's a statistically measurable subset of SF voters who will apparently vote for the DUP on second preference.

And yes, it's only 1%; but that's still more than I was expecting.

I shared a poll here the other month, think it was another lucidtalk poll that had like 2% of TUV supporters planning on also voting SF which was hilarious
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:11 am

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Alas, I am a mere American, and council votes always trip me up since I can only make semi-educated guesses based on general trends, it might take a few years before I get more accurate.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:33 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:This was surely inevitable given that so many people were aware of the accusations, but we have a name on the Tory (alleged) porn watcher.

It's Neil Parish, MP for Tiverton & Honiton. While I imagine it will be quickly locked and edited soon, as of this writing, his Wikipedia page has been edited to read 'loves porn' across the top.

Mr Parish won 60% of the vote in his constituency in the last general election.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvQWbqSABmQ

He spoke about it on tv before he was outed...

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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:This was surely inevitable given that so many people were aware of the accusations, but we have a name on the Tory (alleged) porn watcher.

It's Neil Parish, MP for Tiverton & Honiton. While I imagine it will be quickly locked and edited soon, as of this writing, his Wikipedia page has been edited to read 'loves porn' across the top.

Mr Parish won 60% of the vote in his constituency in the last general election.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvQWbqSABmQ

He spoke about it on tv before he was outed...


Thank you!

I heard clips of this interview on Radio 4 while driving home today, and was going to go looking for it later - you've spared me the trouble.

Pure unintentional retrospective comedy gold.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:30 pm

Shrillland wrote:
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Alas, I am a mere American, and council votes always trip me up since I can only make semi-educated guesses based on general trends, it might take a few years before I get more accurate.


Do you think there will be a live stream on the BBC website like there was last year? That's how I was able to get results at least for a few hours.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Alas, I am a mere American, and council votes always trip me up since I can only make semi-educated guesses based on general trends, it might take a few years before I get more accurate.


Do you think there will be a live stream on the BBC website like there was last year? That's how I was able to get results at least for a few hours.


Over the several days of counting? Oh yes, certainly.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 pm

Shrillland wrote:
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Do you think there will be a live stream on the BBC website like there was last year? That's how I was able to get results at least for a few hours.


Over the several days of counting? Oh yes, certainly.


Do you think it will take several days? I thought that was a special circumstance. They seem to only allow international viewers for a few hours on polling day. That's what happened to me at least.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:59 pm

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Over the several days of counting? Oh yes, certainly.


Do you think it will take several days? I thought that was a special circumstance. They seem to only allow international viewers for a few hours on polling day. That's what happened to me at least.


It always takes several days for the councils to be counted and finish up, they stagger what councils get counted when, so it does usually take three to four days even in normal circumstances.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:05 pm

Shrillland wrote:
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Do you think it will take several days? I thought that was a special circumstance. They seem to only allow international viewers for a few hours on polling day. That's what happened to me at least.


It always takes several days for the councils to be counted and finish up, they stagger what councils get counted when, so it does usually take three to four days even in normal circumstances.


Ah ok. What do you use as a live stream for results? BBC?

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San Lumen wrote:
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It always takes several days for the councils to be counted and finish up, they stagger what councils get counted when, so it does usually take three to four days even in normal circumstances.


Ah ok. What do you use as a live stream for results? BBC?


Yeah, and I stay here and have KNN going with all the tweets of the early numbers.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:08 pm

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Ah ok. What do you use as a live stream for results? BBC?


Yeah, and I stay here and have KNN going with all the tweets of the early numbers.


Did it cut off for you after a few hours on polling day? That's what happened to me. I wasn't able to access it again after that.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Yeah, and I stay here and have KNN going with all the tweets of the early numbers.


Did it cut off for you after a few hours on polling day? That's what happened to me. I wasn't able to access it again after that.


They only have the special coverage for a few hours on polling day, it's not like a general election or anything.
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