UK Politics Thread IX: Try turning the UK off and on again.

[The Huskar Social Union]

*NEW: @JLPartnersPolls on why people voted the way they did, for @Channel4News*

The top reason given for not voting Labour on Thursday was Keir Starmer’s leadership. This was followed by not agreeing with Labour’s policies, or worrying that they did not have any at all.

GRIM.

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Well, fuck.

And for people who did vote labour, Starmer is cited at 1% as the reason why


There are a bunch more graphs in that post for Labour voters from 2019 who went to other parties (Starmer's leadership is second as to why they jumped ship) and for people who voted for other parties like Lib Dems etc

[Dresderstan]

CON HOLD Eastwood swing of .3% to the Conservatives

[The Huskar Social Union]

Labour Gains Rhondda from Plaid, increasing their vote share by 18.8% meanwhile Plaids fell by over 19%

Labour has lost one seat in Wales and gained one.

[The Huskar Social Union]

*NEW: @JLPartnersPolls on why people voted the way they did, for @Channel4News*

The top reason given for not voting Labour on Thursday was Keir Starmer’s leadership. This was followed by not agreeing with Labour’s policies, or worrying that they did not have any at all.

GRIM.

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Whats also interesting is "Too Woke" and "Bad at Immigration" rank really really lowly as for why people didnt vote for the party.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

*NEW: @JLPartnersPolls on why people voted the way they did, for @Channel4News*

The top reason given for not voting Labour on Thursday was Keir Starmer’s leadership. This was followed by not agreeing with Labour’s policies, or worrying that they did not have any at all.

GRIM.

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Whats also interesting is "Too Woke" and "Bad at Immigration" rank really really lowly as for why people didnt vote for the party.

So it's not the culture war?

Labour Gains Rhondda from Plaid, increasing their vote share by 18.8% meanwhile Plaids fell by over 19%

Labour has lost one seat in Wales and gained one.

It's the seat of Plaid's leader too, Labour doing better in Wales than elsewhere for sure.

[Vassenor]

*NEW: @JLPartnersPolls on why people voted the way they did, for @Channel4News*

The top reason given for not voting Labour on Thursday was Keir Starmer’s leadership. This was followed by not agreeing with Labour’s policies, or worrying that they did not have any at all.

GRIM.

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Whats also interesting is "Too Woke" and "Bad at Immigration" rank really really lowly as for why people didnt vote for the party.

But I thought the party was doomed because it refused to center white males in everything.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

The Hartlepool inflatable Johnson looks more like Jo than Boris.

[Souseiseki]

i'm having a huge sous over people not voting labour because of keir's leadership

remember when we were told corbyn needed to go to make room for The Electables

lmao

one job

[The Huskar Social Union]

Whats also interesting is "Too Woke" and "Bad at Immigration" rank really really lowly as for why people didnt vote for the party.

So it's not the culture war?

Labour Gains Rhondda from Plaid, increasing their vote share by 18.8% meanwhile Plaids fell by over 19%

Labour has lost one seat in Wales and gained one.

It's the seat of Plaid's leader too, Labour doing better in Wales than elsewhere for sure.

Id say its probably a factor for some people but maybe not to the extent people like Ostro think it does.

[The Huskar Social Union]

i'm having a huge sous over people not voting labour because of keir's leadership

remember when we were told corbyn needed to go to make room for The Electables

lmao

one job

[The Huskar Social Union]

Conservatives gained Brecon & Radnorshire from the Lib Dems.

Lib Dem vote share fell by 24% where as the Con vote share increased by 14.3%. Labour gained 6.3%

That was the only Lib Dem member of the Senedd.

[Dresderstan]

LAB HOLD Dumbarton Majority increases to nearly 1,500 votes.

1.8% swing from SNP to Labour.

[SD_Film Artists]

Whats also interesting is "Too Woke" and "Bad at Immigration" rank really really lowly as for why people didnt vote for the party.

But I thought the party was doomed because it refused to center white males in everything.

More like 'Diane Abbot's every waking thought'.

I suspect that the people who didn't vote for Labour because of 'wokeness' probably use an older term like 'PC brigade'.

[The Archregimancy]

Conservatives gained Brecon & Radnorshire from the Lib Dems.

Lib Dem vote share fell by 24% where as the Con vote share increased by 14.3%. Labour gained 6.3%

That was the only Lib Dem member of the Senedd.

Yes - though that's because they weren't eligible for a top-up seat on the basis of the combination of winning a constituency seat won and their overall share of the vote. There's a slim chance that they might win a top-up seat this time having now lost Brecon (a loss which was expected).

That said, it's been a very poor night for the LibDems in Wales; a tradition of Welsh liberalism stretching back to Gladstone seems to be on life support and in danger of having the plug pulled.

Personally I blame Lembit Opik (semi-seriously).

[Ostroeuropa]

But I thought the party was doomed because it refused to center white males in everything.

More like 'Diane Abbot's every waking thought'.

I suspect that the people who didn't vote for Labour because of 'wokeness' probably use an older term like 'PC brigade'.

Mostly this. There's the fields of "Do not agree with policy" "Generally opposed" and "Do not share my values" which also cover this section.

[Fartsniffage]

In more light hearted news.

A ‘peak Brexit’ moment as man fires musket at French ships in Jersey fishing row.

https://www.indy100.com/politics/jersey ... t-b1843024

[The Archregimancy]

Separately, Mr Salmond has conceded that Alba are unlikely to win any seats in the list vote.

I'll see if I can find a reliable link to the video of this.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I wonder if UKIP will finally throw in the towel now.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So what do we reckon the likelihoods are for an SNP majority in Scotland and a Labour Majority in Wales?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

So what do we reckon the likelihoods are for an SNP majority in Scotland and a Labour Majority in Wales?

Yer man Curtice seems to think it is unlikely the SNP will get an outright majority now.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

i'm having a huge sous over people not voting labour because of keir's leadership

remember when we were told corbyn needed to go to make room for The Electables

lmao

one job

The BBC has published its projected national share. What this means is that the number-crunchers have, using results from the English local elections, worked out what percentage of the vote the parties would have run had this been a general election.

The results put the Conservatives on 36%, Labour on 29% and the Liberal Democrats on 17% - with the remaining parties on 18%.

Polling expert Sir John Curtice says the results show Labour has made some progress since the 2019 general election but "it is more like the progress of a snail, rather than a hare".

[The Archregimancy]

So what do we reckon the likelihoods are for an SNP majority in Scotland and a Labour Majority in Wales?

I don't follow Wales closely enough to offer an opinion there, but with Labour holding Dumbarton in Scotland (with an increased and surprisingly comfortable majority), it's likely now near-impossible for the SNP to win a majority after list seats are distributed.

However, with the Greens almost certainly taking advantage of Alex Salmond helpfully pointing out how to increase the number of pro-independence MSPs by voting differently in the list vote (even if he didn't intend for the Greens to be the party that benefits), there will probably be a slightly increased overall majority of pro-independence MSPs due to a rise in Green list MSPs.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So what do we reckon the likelihoods are for an SNP majority in Scotland and a Labour Majority in Wales?

Yer man Curtice seems to think it is unlikely the SNP will get an outright majority now.

Ah i see.

So what do we reckon the likelihoods are for an SNP majority in Scotland and a Labour Majority in Wales?

I don't follow Wales closely enough to offer an opinion there, but with Labour holding Dumbarton in Scotland (with an increased and surprisingly comfortable majority), it's likely now near-impossible for the SNP to win a majority after list seats are distributed.

However, with the Greens almost certainly taking advantage of Alex Salmond helpfully pointing out how to increase the number of pro-independence MSPs by voting differently in the list vote (even if he didn't intend for the Greens to be the party that benefits), there will probably be a slightly increased overall majority of pro-independence MSPs due to a rise in Green list MSPs.

Will be interesting to see how many seats the Greens pick up.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The meme youtuber beat Laurence Fox. Get fucked.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Ha. Count Binface got 5000 more votes than UKIP's Gammons.