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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 4:16 pm

Odreria wrote:
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Ones a theocratic state “chosen by god” that keeps expanding

The other is theocratic terror group who thinks their god wants to wipe out the jews.

Yea, lets stop drawing straws

Palestine is a theocratic terror group, ah yes


I think he’s talking about Hamas. Could be wrong.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue May 11, 2021 4:16 pm

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Great Algerstonia wrote:Both sides are godawful and there is no better or worse side... if you state you "support Palestine" or "support Israel" you are lying to yourself

he said that both sides are bad... he must be so smart...

Yes. An apartheid state and a state that fucking kills civilians indiscriminately are both bad. Jesus Christ if you did a basic amount of research on this.
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Postby Odreria » Tue May 11, 2021 4:20 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Odreria wrote:he said that both sides are bad... he must be so smart...

Yes. An apartheid state and a state that fucking kills civilians indiscriminately are both bad.

Yeah and both of them are called Israel
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 4:22 pm

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One is a maggot with shitty rockets. The other is a maggot with F-15s. We need to be putting a bit of a muzzle on one of them...

It would be nice if we could do both.


So we need to arm Hamas is what your saying to even the odds cause crying about whats fair between genocidal freaks really make no sense


Do you know what a muzzle is?

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue May 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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Great Algerstonia wrote:Yes. An apartheid state and a state that fucking kills civilians indiscriminately are both bad.

Yeah and both of them are called Israel

You are ridiculous. Palestine literally launched missiles at Israeli population centers, and it was only thanks to Israeli defense system that only four wounded. It's hell-on-earth for Israel and Palestine alike.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 4:29 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Odreria wrote:Yeah and both of them are called Israel

You are ridiculous. Palestine literally launched missiles at Israeli population centers, and it was only thanks to Israeli defense system that only four wounded. It's hell-on-earth for Israel and Palestine alike.

“Palestine” isn’t launching missiles because Palestine has no military.
Hamas is launching missiles, and Israel responds to a barrage of missiles that most don’t even leave Gaza (and of the ones that do, get shot down by Israel 90% of the time) by trying to flatten the world’s largest open air prison.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue May 11, 2021 4:31 pm

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Great Algerstonia wrote:You are ridiculous. Palestine literally launched missiles at Israeli population centers, and it was only thanks to Israeli defense system that only four wounded. It's hell-on-earth for Israel and Palestine alike.

“Palestine” isn’t launching missiles because Palestine has no military.
Hamas is launching missiles, and Israel responds to a barrage of missiles that most don’t even leave Gaza (and of the ones that do, get shot down by Israel 90% of the time) by trying to flatten the world’s largest open air prison.

Has Palestine attempted to stop Hamas, or at least take them out of their territory?
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Postby MGTOWia » Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pm

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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 4:37 pm

US prevents UN from issuing statement

The United States is delaying United Nations Security Council efforts to issue a public statement on escalating tensions between Israel and the Palestinians because it could be harmful to behind-the-scenes efforts to end the violence, according to diplomats and a source familiar with the U.S. strategy.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said Washington is "actively engaged in diplomacy behind the scenes with all parties to achieve a ceasefire" and was concerned that a council statement might be counterproductive at the moment.

The Security Council is instead going to meet privately on Wednesday to discuss the latest violence, diplomats said.

The Security Council first discussed on Monday clashes in East Jerusalem around al-Aqsa mosque. The holy city has been tense during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, with the threat of a court ruling evicting Palestinians from homes claimed by Jewish settlers adding to the friction.

Before a further upsurge of violence, the 15-member Security Council began discussions on a draft statement that would express concern about the clashes and the potential evictions, call on Israel to cease Jewish settlement activities, demolitions and evictions, and urge general restraint.

Such statements have to be agreed by consensus. But diplomats said the United States, a close ally of Israel, told council counterparts that the body should not issue a statement at the moment.

The U.S. mission to the United Nations said: "The United States is engaging constructively to ensure any action by the Security Council is helpful in de-escalating tensions."

State Department spokesman Ned Price told reporters that Washington wanted to see steps to help de-escalate the violence, whether the steps came from Israel, the Palestinian Authority or the Security Council.

"The United Nations is working with all relevant parties to de-escalate the situation urgently," U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said on Tuesday. He said Secretary-General Antonio Guterres is saddened by "the increasingly large numbers of casualties, including children."

"Israeli security forces must exercise maximum restraint and calibrate their use of force. The indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars towards Israeli population centers is unacceptable," Dujarric told reporters.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 4:43 pm

Also, another tower block was just destroyed in gaza

will provide more details when things become clear
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 4:45 pm

MGTOWia wrote:Not feeling the sympathy for so-called palestinians.


Oh dear. Are they even human to you?

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Postby Odreria » Tue May 11, 2021 4:46 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:“Palestine” isn’t launching missiles because Palestine has no military.
Hamas is launching missiles, and Israel responds to a barrage of missiles that most don’t even leave Gaza (and of the ones that do, get shot down by Israel 90% of the time) by trying to flatten the world’s largest open air prison.

Has Palestine attempted to stop Hamas, or at least take them out of their territory?

have you attempted to know what you're talking about
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue May 11, 2021 4:48 pm

Odreria wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Has Palestine attempted to stop Hamas, or at least take them out of their territory?

have you attempted to know what you're talking about

Perhaps you could educate me if you feel this way?
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Postby Kannap » Tue May 11, 2021 4:48 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Odreria wrote:he said that both sides are bad... he must be so smart...


Ones a theocratic state “chosen by god” that keeps expanding

The other is theocratic terror group who thinks their god wants to wipe out the jews.

Yea, lets stop drawing straws


Israel is the one committing a USA-backed genocide.
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 11, 2021 4:50 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:“Palestine” isn’t launching missiles because Palestine has no military.
Hamas is launching missiles, and Israel responds to a barrage of missiles that most don’t even leave Gaza (and of the ones that do, get shot down by Israel 90% of the time) by trying to flatten the world’s largest open air prison.

Has Palestine attempted to stop Hamas, or at least take them out of their territory?

Yes. Palestine is technically in the middle of a Civil War. Hamas control the Gaza strip and Israel sure as hell doesn't want Fatah and the PLO marching an army through Israel.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 4:50 pm

Kowani wrote:Also, another tower block was just destroyed in gaza

will provide more details when things become clear


I guess this will just continue to get worse. *sigh*
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 4:52 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Odreria wrote:have you attempted to know what you're talking about

Perhaps you could educate me if you feel this way?


The PLO has no military. Israel has ensured this. How would you expect them to police HAMAS?

Israel is the occupying power in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. But they don't provide security. They leave it to the locals but don't allow them any of the things needed to provide security, Then they blow them up for not doing the thing they can't do.

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 4:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
MGTOWia wrote:Not feeling the sympathy for so-called palestinians.


Oh dear. Are they even human to you?


Oh dear two religious fanatics that have cut a bloody swath of torture, forced conversion and mass death across the planet, yeah better they take eachother out before they try to finish off whats left of the rest of the worlds faiths.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 11, 2021 4:53 pm

I like how news is whining about worstest violence in middle east in seven years.

What the fuck is Syria to you? What's an Aleppo?

Fuck you MSM.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Oh dear. Are they even human to you?


Oh dear two religious fanatics that have cut a bloody swath of torture, forced conversion and mass death across the planet, yeah better they take eachother out before they try to finish off whats left of the rest of the worlds faiths.


Now I know you're taking the piss. On to ignore you go.

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Postby Heloin » Tue May 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Oh dear. Are they even human to you?


Oh dear two religious fanatics that have cut a bloody swath of torture, forced conversion and mass death across the planet, yeah better they take eachother out before they try to finish off whats left of the rest of the worlds faiths.

How edgy.

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 4:59 pm

Nakena wrote:I like how news is whining about worstest violence in middle east in seven years.

What the fuck is Syria to you? What's an Aleppo?

Fuck you MSM.


Like ISIS just dosnt exist anymore to them or the thousands of beheaded christians on beachs
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Tue May 11, 2021 5:00 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Perhaps you could educate me if you feel this way?


The PLO has no military. Israel has ensured this. How would you expect them to police HAMAS?

Israel is the occupying power in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. But they don't provide security. They leave it to the locals but don't allow them any of the things needed to provide security, Then they blow them up for not doing the thing they can't do.

I appreciate this. You and Heloin have made me more pro-Palestine.

Has Palestine tried to negotiate with hamas however?
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Postby Heloin » Tue May 11, 2021 5:07 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The PLO has no military. Israel has ensured this. How would you expect them to police HAMAS?

Israel is the occupying power in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. But they don't provide security. They leave it to the locals but don't allow them any of the things needed to provide security, Then they blow them up for not doing the thing they can't do.

I appreciate this. You and Heloin have made me more pro-Palestine.

Has Palestine tried to negotiate with hamas however?

Yes. Both sides understand that Israel is the more pressing threat to the existence of the Palestinian people. It's not succeeded generally but Hamas is still willing to attack Israel if they think the rest of Palestine is under a direct threat. Which to be fair to Hamas, Palestine often is under a direct threat from Israel.

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