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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:Is this the warning they posted on Twitter, or their usual method of just dropping a smaller bomb on the roof a few minutes beforehand?

They dropped pamphlets about two hours before the airstrike.

Senkaku wrote:Let’s think about the proportionate response to two or three people getting killed and some overgrown model rockets keeping your missile defense system busy: is it to launch an intense aerial bombardment of a densely populated urban area?

I'm talking about the recent rocket strikes against Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as well as the recent airstrikes in Gaza since that's what was brought up.

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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 3:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:Is that really the bar you want to set? “It’s not as bad as Aleppo,” one of the bloodiest, most brutal sieges on this side of WW2? “It’s not as bad as Yemen,” where millions of people have been starved because Riyadh thinks famine could be militarily expedient? That’s not an argument for what the Israelis are doing or a defense, that’s just saying “well, it could be worse”... which will literally always be true, unless they set up like, an industrial child-flaying facility or something.

My point is that Israel and Hamas are waging an unconventional war, and one that is not especially bloody by the standards of the region in the present-day. Comparing it to the Holocaust, for very transparent "gotcha" reasons, isn't altogether illuminating or informative. And Israel can plausibly claim to be on the defensive against Hamas.

Senkaku wrote:Now I’m just confused what we’re talking about, were the 30ish dead killed in “clashes” in Jerusalem or something? I thought I read it was the result of an Israeli airstrike?

These are two distinct but related sets of events.
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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 3:13 pm

Senkaku wrote:Is Fahran perhaps talking about some specific other airstrike that didn’t kill any children? Or some strike from years ago? Who knows!

I'm talking about the recent strike on Hanadi Tower since it was brought up and was what prompted the current post chain.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 3:20 pm

Israel said it had sent 80 jets to bomb Gaza, and dispatched infantry and armour to reinforce the tanks already gathered on the border.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/1 ... s-response

This is all going to go oh so well....

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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 3:21 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Israel said it had sent 80 jets to bomb Gaza, and dispatched infantry and armour to reinforce the tanks already gathered on the border.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/1 ... s-response

This is all going to go oh so well....

Welp, here come the war crimes.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue May 11, 2021 3:29 pm

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Israel said it had sent 80 jets to bomb Gaza, and dispatched infantry and armour to reinforce the tanks already gathered on the border.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/1 ... s-response

This is all going to go oh so well....

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This is all we need, another fucking war in Gaza.
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue May 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue May 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Israel said it had sent 80 jets to bomb Gaza, and dispatched infantry and armour to reinforce the tanks already gathered on the border.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/1 ... s-response

This is all going to go oh so well....


When this war inevitably fails to end Hamas, maybe Bibi can explain to the families who lost IDF kids in Gaza why they didn't die for nothing.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue May 11, 2021 3:34 pm

Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?


Because the Bible says it may or may not have been part of the ancient kingdom of Israel like 2000 years ago, so the Israelis would rather fight a war and get many of their own people killed than just let the Palestinians have a country.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 3:34 pm

Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?


The Palestinians have no where else to go and Israel doesn't like the missile strikes.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 3:34 pm

In a moment of self-reflection: I need to work with my empathy. I’m too desensitized to stuff like this.

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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 3:35 pm

Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?

Great chance for the IDF to pump some lead into some Palestinian kids holding olive branches.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue May 11, 2021 3:35 pm

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Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?


The Palestinians have no where else to go and Israel doesn't like the missile strikes.


So is Israel gonna apologize yet for firing tear gas into Al Aqsa or are they gonna just keep doubling down and making it worse?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 3:36 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Palestinians have no where else to go and Israel doesn't like the missile strikes.


So is Israel gonna apologize yet for firing tear gas into Al Aqsa or are they gonna just keep doubling down and making it worse?


Probably the latter.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 3:37 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Palestinians have no where else to go and Israel doesn't like the missile strikes.


So is Israel gonna apologize yet for firing tear gas into Al Aqsa or are they gonna just keep doubling down and making it worse?


Israel will make it worse. No question.

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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Tue May 11, 2021 3:37 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Israel said it had sent 80 jets to bomb Gaza, and dispatched infantry and armour to reinforce the tanks already gathered on the border.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/1 ... s-response

This is all going to go oh so well....


When this war inevitably fails to end Hamas, maybe Bibi can explain to the families who lost IDF kids in Gaza why they didn't die for nothing.

Lucky then that the IDF has been so far successful in not suffering a single casualty, whereas the Hamas terror group has already suffered around 18 dead according to estimates.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 3:38 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?


Because the Bible says it may or may not have been part of the ancient kingdom of Israel like 2000 years ago, so the Israelis would rather fight a war and get many of their own people killed than just let the Palestinians have a country.


I mean jews, muslims and christiand have been giving eachother dirt naps their for a long time.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 11, 2021 3:39 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Because the Bible says it may or may not have been part of the ancient kingdom of Israel like 2000 years ago, so the Israelis would rather fight a war and get many of their own people killed than just let the Palestinians have a country.


I mean jews, muslims and christiand have been giving eachother dirt naps their for a long time.


But maybe it's time to move past that.

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 3:42 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
I mean jews, muslims and christiand have been giving eachother dirt naps their for a long time.


But maybe it's time to move past that.


No shit
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Postby Dowaesk » Tue May 11, 2021 3:42 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Palestinians have no where else to go and Israel doesn't like the missile strikes.


So is Israel gonna apologize yet for firing tear gas into Al Aqsa or are they gonna just keep doubling down and making it worse?

Israel: Apologise? For what? It was self defense. It was the Palestinians who started it.
Rest of the World except US: In what way did they provoke? They were simply praying in Aqsa
Israel: uhh Duhhh. Exactly. Are ye Dumb?
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US: Stop persecuting my little brother. This is anti-semitism.

**Issue dismissed**
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 3:45 pm

Dowaesk wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
So is Israel gonna apologize yet for firing tear gas into Al Aqsa or are they gonna just keep doubling down and making it worse?

Israel: Apologise? For what? It was self defense. It was the Palestinians who started it.
Rest of the World except US: In what way did they provoke? They were simply praying in Aqsa
Israel: uhh Duhhh. Exactly. Are ye Dumb?
Rest of the World except the US: *facepalm*
US: Stop persecuting my little brother. This is anti-semitism.

**Issue dismissed**


Didnt the UN help create israel?
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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 3:45 pm

Lady Victory wrote:Isn't Gaza literally worthless? Why even bother fighting over it?

An Israeli presence in Gaza is literally only meant to prevent rocket strikes from Hamas. There's no economic or cultural value to the region at present, at least not from an Israeli perspective.

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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 3:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:In a moment of self-reflection: I need to work with my empathy. I’m too desensitized to stuff like this.

My condolences go to the families of those people killed.

Yeah, this is pretty awful. It's especially horrible that small children have been killed and harmed.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 11, 2021 3:50 pm

Fahran wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:In a moment of self-reflection: I need to work with my empathy. I’m too desensitized to stuff like this.

My condolences go to the families of those people killed.

Yeah, this is pretty awful. It's especially horrible that small children have been killed and harmed.


Very much so. Israel is has been going on full dumbass about this too long. Come on.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 3:51 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fahran wrote:Yeah, this is pretty awful. It's especially horrible that small children have been killed and harmed.


Very much so. Israel is has been going on full dumbass about this too long. Come on.


Both combatants are extremists theocratics genocidests

This pissing contest of is dumb
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