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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:10 am

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Fahran wrote:I'm not certain telling Palestinians in the process of getting evicted from their homes in East Jerusalem will soothe them overly much.

The issue is that Israel legally has no jurisdiction over East Jerusalem, it is a military occupation.


Legality means nothing when you have tanks and nukes, China is a good example with its concentration camps, UN dosn’t give a shit
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 10:14 am

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Punished UMN wrote:The issue is that Israel legally has no jurisdiction over East Jerusalem, it is a military occupation.


Legality means nothing when you have tanks and nukes, China is a good example with its concentration camps, UN dosn’t give a shit

It’s not so much the UN doesn’t give a sh*t so much as it is China sits on the UN Security Council because it was one of the winners in World War II.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 11, 2021 10:17 am

I find it difficult to hypothesize even the most basic of solutions for this. Once again, there really are no winners here.

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:19 am

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Herzpunkt wrote:
Legality means nothing when you have tanks and nukes, China is a good example with its concentration camps, UN dosn’t give a shit

It’s not so much the UN doesn’t give a sh*t so much as it is China sits on the UN Security Council because it was one of the winners in World War II.


If they cared they wouldnt let global politics be held hostage by a genocidal maoist police state.

They dont have the balls
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 10:19 am

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Insaanistan wrote:It’s not so much the UN doesn’t give a sh*t so much as it is China sits on the UN Security Council because it was one of the winners in World War II.


If they cared they wouldnt let global politics be held hostage by a genocidal maoist police state.

They dont have the balls

Okay, so so far, you’ve demonstrated you don’t know how either immigration or the UN works.
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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 10:23 am

Punished UMN wrote:The issue is that Israel legally has no jurisdiction over East Jerusalem, it is a military occupation.

Are we going to make purely legalistic arguments regarding these matters? Because, even then, Resolution 242 is a lot less clear than some would like to admit and it has been interpreted differently by different national governments. For instance, Israel accepts Resolution 242 and acknowledges that withdrawal from territories would accompany a negotiated peace settlement, something that Ariel Sharon's offer in 2005 arguably would have satisfied.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 11, 2021 10:23 am

Herzpunkt wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:It’s not so much the UN doesn’t give a sh*t so much as it is China sits on the UN Security Council because it was one of the winners in World War II.


If they cared they wouldnt let global politics be held hostage by a genocidal maoist police state.

They dont have the balls


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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 10:25 am

Vassenor wrote:Chinese Veto Power says hi.

We've gotten around veto powers before. It's not impossible if you really, really want to do it and are willing to fight dirty.
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Postby Sword Island » Tue May 11, 2021 10:28 am

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Vassenor wrote:Chinese Veto Power says hi.

We've gotten around veto powers before. It's not impossible if you really, really want to do it and are willing to fight dirty.

Well, when nukes are on the table you have to let some things slide... or really everything slide
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:30 am

Sword Island wrote:
Fahran wrote:We've gotten around veto powers before. It's not impossible if you really, really want to do it and are willing to fight dirty.

Well, when nukes are on the table you have to let some things slide... or really everything slide


Okay well then there it is

They are held hostage, which means we can’t take the UN seriously or “international law”
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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 10:32 am

Sword Island wrote:Well, when nukes are on the table you have to let some things slide... or really everything slide

I doubt China would respond to a strongly written letter with nukes. They're more likely to resort to their usual gaslighting than anything. But this really isn't about China. It's about Israel and Palestine.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 10:33 am

Herzpunkt wrote:
Sword Island wrote:Well, when nukes are on the table you have to let some things slide... or really everything slide


Okay well then there it is

They are held hostage, which means we can’t take the UN seriously or “international law”

That’s not what that means.

Please, no one elect Herzpunkt as leader, cuz I’m pretty sure he’d start a dictatorship and force Muslims to... “accept national values”.
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Postby Fahran » Tue May 11, 2021 10:33 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
Okay well then there it is

They are held hostage, which means we can’t take the UN seriously or “international law”

That’s not what that means.

Please, no one elect Herzpunkt as leader, cuz I’m pretty sure he’d start a dictatorship and force Muslims to... “accept national values”.

But what if he got elected in a country where the national values were Islamic? :^)
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:35 am

Fahran wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:That’s not what that means.

Please, no one elect Herzpunkt as leader, cuz I’m pretty sure he’d start a dictatorship and force Muslims to... “accept national values”.

But what if he got elected in a country where the national values were Islamic? :^)


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But im “shirk” so someone would probably assasinate me before that happned
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 10:36 am

Fahran wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:That’s not what that means.

Please, no one elect Herzpunkt as leader, cuz I’m pretty sure he’d start a dictatorship and force Muslims to... “accept national values”.

But what if he got elected in a country where the national values were Islamic? :^)

Forcing Islam and forcing non-Muslims to follow shariā is haram, so...
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:37 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Fahran wrote:But what if he got elected in a country where the national values were Islamic? :^)

Forcing Islam and forcing non-Muslims to follow shariā is haram, so...


I would just do what muslims do, move into the area and make laws that make life uncomfortable until all the religious minorities convert or leave, then claim the land as my own
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Postby Sword Island » Tue May 11, 2021 10:38 am

Herzpunkt wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Forcing Islam and forcing non-Muslims to follow shariā is haram, so...


I would just do what muslims do, move into the area and make laws that make life uncomfortable until all the religious minorities convert or leave, then claim the land as my own


That's straight from the Christian playbook
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 10:39 am

Herzpunkt wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Forcing Islam and forcing non-Muslims to follow shariā is haram, so...


I would just do what muslims do, move into the area and make laws that make life uncomfortable until all the religious minorities convert or leave, then claim the land as my own

Ah yes. Like the Islamic Republic of Minnesotastan.

Could you grow up for a moment and realize Muslims aren’t here to take over?
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 10:39 am

Sword Island wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:
I would just do what muslims do, move into the area and make laws that make life uncomfortable until all the religious minorities convert or leave, then claim the land as my own


That's straight from the Christian playbook too


And?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 11, 2021 10:39 am

Herzpunkt wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Forcing Islam and forcing non-Muslims to follow shariā is haram, so...


I would just do what muslims do, move into the area and make laws that make life uncomfortable until all the religious minorities convert or leave, then claim the land as my own


You could always pop the mask back on, man.

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Postby Luziyca » Tue May 11, 2021 12:09 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I find it difficult to hypothesize even the most basic of solutions for this. Once again, there really are no winners here.

The only basic solution that is not just "remove everyone from the premises because they're never going to share" that I could think of is a Belgian-esque federation between Israel and Palestine, which would ensure that there would be no ethnic cleansing whatsoever.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 12:12 pm

https://youtu.be/9nyK7QwAIVY

You got to love the calls for jihad and caliphates, even have a nice black flag in their
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue May 11, 2021 12:16 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:https://youtu.be/9nyK7QwAIVY

You got to love the calls for jihad and caliphates, even have a nice black flag in their

Let everyone note the protest in the video is years old, half of the people are waiving white, not black flags, and not one do they say the words “jihad” or “caliphate”.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Tue May 11, 2021 12:21 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Herzpunkt wrote:https://youtu.be/9nyK7QwAIVY

You got to love the calls for jihad and caliphates, even have a nice black flag in their

Let everyone note the protest in the video is years old, half of the people are waiving white, not black flags, and not one do they say the words “jihad” or “caliphate”.


How old does it have to be? You have argued a hundred years ago in some cases have you not? Or does that only apply when its politically convenient?
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Israel's airstrikes have killed 29 people in the last 2 days, including 9 children. Just felt that was important to point out since the thread title is still only focusing on injuries.
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