67 Palestinian and 7 Israeli Civilians Killed in Conflict

[Salus Maior]

With my (admittedly very limited) knowledge, this seems like a pretty good idea, since a lot of terrible states (Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc.) use their possession of these places to legitimize some of the awful things they do. It's one of the reasons why Jerusalem has become such a sacred place in Zionist narrative despite the early ones apparently not caring at all about it.

Right?

There can be a neutral commission providing for the security and administration of the sites. Tbh, I probably wouldn't let Palestinians run the Islamic ones simply because of political issues, but maybe we can have a neutral Islamic group run the Islamic sites to ensure the holy places are accessible, apolitical, and unviolated. Maybe Bosniak volunteers can guard the sites, they have a fairly good reputation as Muslim cultures go.

That's a bit speculative, however. But the idea of a neutral commission for Holy sites in Israel/Palestine I think is a solid one and would solve a lot of issues.

[Jutlop]

With my (admittedly very limited) knowledge, this seems like a pretty good idea, since a lot of terrible states (Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc.) use their possession of these places to legitimize some of the awful things they do. It's one of the reasons why Jerusalem has become such a sacred place in Zionist narrative despite the early ones apparently not caring at all about it.

Right?

There can be a neutral commission providing for the security and administration of the sites. Tbh, I probably wouldn't let Palestinians run the Islamic ones simply because of political issues, but maybe we can have a neutral Islamic group run the Islamic sites to ensure the holy places are accessible, apolitical, and unviolated. Maybe Bosniak volunteers can guard the sites, they have a fairly good reputation as Muslim cultures go.

That's a bit speculative, however. But the idea of a neutral commission for Holy sites in Israel/Palestine I think is a solid one and would solve a lot of issues.

Jordan already does that

[Jarvikan]

Not entirely. In the case of Israel you have to take into account that muslims have been actively purging Jews from their lands - as well as from western Europe through intimidation, harrasment etc. There is a whole new exodus to Israel - and the Jews are pretty open about the fact the main reason for that is muslims being shitty.

Now - is that the fault of the Palestinians ? No. Those have not been purging. But there is anger within the Jews. They have one place left; and damn well they are going to show the muslims they will not be driven away from there as well.

Conclusion: blame muslims for the plight of Palestinians. Had they been nicer to Jews, perhaps the Jews would not have been jerks.

This is one f*cking leap.
It also ignores the fact that many Arab Jews were anti-Israel to begin with and that many Arab Muslims and Arab Jews are positive a lot of anti-Semitic events were staged by the Mossad to convince Arab Jews to leave because frankly, the Mossad knows no bounds.
It also ignores the rise in anti-Semitism in the Middle East is and was largely due to Israel’s own actions so frankly if we’re gonna play that game it’s Israel’s fault for being mean to Palestinian Muslims.

Half convinced you wear a tin hat while writing these

[Vassenor]

This is one f*cking leap.
It also ignores the fact that many Arab Jews were anti-Israel to begin with and that many Arab Muslims and Arab Jews are positive a lot of anti-Semitic events were staged by the Mossad to convince Arab Jews to leave because frankly, the Mossad knows no bounds.
It also ignores the rise in anti-Semitism in the Middle East is and was largely due to Israel’s own actions so frankly if we’re gonna play that game it’s Israel’s fault for being mean to Palestinian Muslims.

Half convinced you wear a tin hat while writing these

Would you rather we talk about the sterilisation of Ethiopian Jewish women who emigrated to Israel?

[Insaanistan]

This is one f*cking leap.
It also ignores the fact that many Arab Jews were anti-Israel to begin with and that many Arab Muslims and Arab Jews are positive a lot of anti-Semitic events were staged by the Mossad to convince Arab Jews to leave because frankly, the Mossad knows no bounds.
It also ignores the rise in anti-Semitism in the Middle East is and was largely due to Israel’s own actions so frankly if we’re gonna play that game it’s Israel’s fault for being mean to Palestinian Muslims.

Half convinced you wear a tin hat while writing these

The allegations against Israeli agents [that is, they were behind the anti-Semitic bombings in the 1950s in Iraq] had "wide consensus" amongst Iraqi Jews in Israel...theory that "certain Jews" carried out the attacks "in order to focus the attention of the Israel Government on the plight of the Jews" was viewed as "more plausible than most" by the British Foreign Office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950–1951_Baghdad_bombings
There’s a reason Israel allows aliyah. They’ll do anything possible to have every Jew in Israel.
The worst part is, Arab Jews, whether from Yemen, Iraq or elsewhere, got treated like absolute garbage in Israel, as did Ethiopian Jews.

[Insaanistan]

Half convinced you wear a tin hat while writing these

Would you rather we talk about the sterilisation of Ethiopian Jewish women who emigrated to Israel?

“B-but Israel’s a democracy!”

[SD_Film Artists]

Half convinced you wear a tin hat while writing these

The allegations against Israeli agents [that is, they were behind the anti-Semitic bombings in the 1950s in Iraq] had "wide consensus" amongst Iraqi Jews in Israel...theory that "certain Jews" carried out the attacks "in order to focus the attention of the Israel Government on the plight of the Jews" was viewed as "more plausible than most" by the British Foreign Office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950–1951_Baghdad_bombings
There’s a reason Israel allows aliyah. They’ll do anything possible to have every Jew in Israel.
The worst part is, Arab Jews, whether from Yemen, Iraq or elsewhere, got treated like absolute garbage in Israel, as did Ethiopian Jews.

One of Mossad's best agents was an Arab Jew. That said, he likely still received discrimination. As the Cohen mini-series said: "I'm Jewish but when [Israelis] look at me they still only see an Arab."

[NationStates Puppet]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950–1951_Baghdad_bombings
There’s a reason Israel allows aliyah. They’ll do anything possible to have every Jew in Israel.
The worst part is, Arab Jews, whether from Yemen, Iraq or elsewhere, got treated like absolute garbage in Israel, as did Ethiopian Jews.

One of Mossad's best agents was an Arab Jew. That said, he likely still received discrimination. As the Cohen mini-series said: "I'm Jewish but when [Israelis] look at me they still only see an Arab."

And your point is...?

[SD_Film Artists]

One of Mossad's best agents was an Arab Jew. That said, he likely still received discrimination. As the Cohen mini-series said: "I'm Jewish but when [Israelis] look at me they still only see an Arab."

And your point is...?

That they can get to high places.

[Insaanistan]

And your point is...?

That they can get to high places.

So could black people pre-Civil War occasionally.

[SD_Film Artists]

That they can get to high places.

So could black people pre-Civil War occasionally.

Is black people in the US relivant to this thread or are you trying to bring up comparable discrimination that I've already talked about? I didn't say "they could get to high places, so life was fine for all of them".

[Kowani]

Pro-Palestinian activists occupy/shut down drone facility in Leicester, Fire Brigades refuse to help police remove them

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

[Nakena]

Pro-Palestinian activists occupy/shut down drone facility in Leicester, Fire Brigades refuse to help police remove them

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

Probably they will end up moving their facilities out of the UK into a more... friendly country such as Czech Republic.

[Kowani]

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

Probably they will end up moving their facilities out of the UK into a more... friendly country such as Czech Republic.

how easy is it to move a drone factory, anyway?
i can't imagine it'd be easy to set up all the infrastructure you'd need to support it...

[Insaanistan]

So could black people pre-Civil War occasionally.

Is black people in the US relivant to this thread or are you trying to bring up comparable discrimination that I've already talked about? I didn't say "they could get to high places, so life was fine for all of them".

I wasn’t aware you had already spoken about it, but I stand by my point.

[Ifreann]

Pro-Palestinian activists occupy/shut down drone facility in Leicester, Fire Brigades refuse to help police remove them

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

Extremely cool.

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Probably they will end up moving their facilities out of the UK into a more... friendly country such as Czech Republic.

how easy is it to move a drone factory, anyway?
i can't imagine it'd be easy to set up all the infrastructure you'd need to support it...

You just attach drones to each corner and fly it away.

[MGTOWia]

About as human as the residents of Dresden and Tokyo during WWII.

Dresden was a war crime. Firebombing civilians didn’t do anything substantial for the war effort.

Something that was already obvious by the fact that it didn’t do anything when Britain was bombed.

Well, I must have missed studying that part of post-war judicial procedures in which Dresden was adjudicated to be a war crime.

Or, since there was no such adjudication, it would appear that your opinion of Dresden doesn't carry much weight, does it?

[MGTOWia]

Pro-Palestinian activists occupy/shut down drone facility in Leicester, Fire Brigades refuse to help police remove them

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

END THE OCCUPATION!

[Thermodolia]

About as human as the residents of Dresden and Tokyo during WWII.

Dresden was a war crime. Firebombing civilians didn’t do anything substantial for the war effort.

Something that was already obvious by the fact that it didn’t do anything when Britain was bombed.

Dresden wasn’t a war crime. The city was an economic center and since it was total war breaking the will of the people is an entirely legal thing to do

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pro-Palestinian activists occupy/shut down drone facility in Leicester, Fire Brigades refuse to help police remove them

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

Unfathomably based, I hope they keep it up.

[Salus Maior]

Dresden was a war crime. Firebombing civilians didn’t do anything substantial for the war effort.

Something that was already obvious by the fact that it didn’t do anything when Britain was bombed.

Dresden wasn’t a war crime. The city was an economic center and since it was total war breaking the will of the people is an entirely legal thing to do

The intent behind Dresden was specifically targeting civilians for the purpose of breaking the morale of the German people (which worked just as well as when the Germans were doing it to the Brits, which is to say barely at all) which is why they targeted residential areas. That is a war crime, you should know, you were in the military.

WWII being a total war doesn’t change the law regarding war crimes. Otherwise, there’s plenty we couldn’t accuse Germany of.

[Salus Maior]

They have now occupied another factory, in Tamworth, after 6 consecutive days of occupying the original one in Leicester

END THE OCCUPATION!

‘You know what, I’m going to occupy even harder’

[Salus Maior]

Dresden was a war crime. Firebombing civilians didn’t do anything substantial for the war effort.

Something that was already obvious by the fact that it didn’t do anything when Britain was bombed.

Well, I must have missed studying that part of post-war judicial procedures in which Dresden was adjudicated to be a war crime.

Or, since there was no such adjudication, it would appear that your opinion of Dresden doesn't carry much weight, does it?

A lot of Allied war crimes weren’t prosecuted. Why would they try themselves? We can plainly see where the allies have violated the Geneva conventions and from that standpoint see what is a war crime and what is not. Just like the present.

I’m sure you consider Soviet war crimes to be true war crimes, for example. Even though they were never prosecuted.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Well, I must have missed studying that part of post-war judicial procedures in which Dresden was adjudicated to be a war crime.

Or, since there was no such adjudication, it would appear that your opinion of Dresden doesn't carry much weight, does it?

A lot of Allied war crimes weren’t prosecuted. Why would they try themselves? We can plainly see where the allies have violated the Geneva conventions and from that standpoint see what is a war crime and what is not. Just like the present.

I’m sure you consider Soviet war crimes to be true war crimes, for example. Even though they were never prosecuted.

LeMay straight up admitted if the Allies lost that he would have been on trial for war crimes. We only got away with it because we won.

[Thermodolia]

Dresden wasn’t a war crime. The city was an economic center and since it was total war breaking the will of the people is an entirely legal thing to do

The intent behind Dresden was specifically targeting civilians for the purpose of breaking the morale of the German people (which worked just as well as when the Germans were doing it to the Brits, which is to say barely at all) which is why they targeted residential areas. That is a war crime, you should know, you were in the military.

WWII being a total war doesn’t change the law regarding war crimes. Otherwise, there’s plenty we couldn’t accuse Germany of.

At the time it wasn’t a war crime. The indiscriminate bombing only became a war crime later after WW2. You are applying a law that didn’t exist at the time.