67 Palestinian and 7 Israeli Civilians Killed in Conflict

[Herzpunkt]

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/13 ... 75136?s=21

Antifa and pro-palestinians

[Herzpunkt]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

How the fuck is Hamas genociding Israel? 10 Israelis have died, and while that isn't good, thats not shit compared compared Israel flattening city blocks, the AP's headquarters, a couple charities and a hospital.

How many people before you will call it attempted genocide? Whats the exact number?

[The Alamann]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

How the fuck is Hamas genociding Israel? 10 Israelis have died, and while that isn't good, thats not shit compared compared Israel flattening city blocks, the AP's headquarters, a couple charities and a hospital.

War isn’t a game of legos. Shit gets blown up and casualties are part of it.

Of course I will clarify that “genociding” was partially in sarcasm to a previous persons’ remarks regarding Israel wanting to wipe out the Palestinians as a people. Of course were it not for the Dome defense system Israel would be nothing but rubble by now. So you have to wonder…

[Alcala-Cordel]

There's also a very big difference between bombs and bullets and tear gas and flash bangs.

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

Right, because the missile attack was completely at random and not an escalation after a campaign of Israeli bombings.

Israel's been bombing Palestine for decades, but when anyone shoots back all the sudden it's an unprovoked act of terrorism.

[The Alamann]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

Right, because the missile attack was completely at random and not an escalation after a campaign of Israeli bombings.

Israel's been bombing Palestine for decades, but when anyone shoots back all the sudden it's an unprovoked act of terrorism.

I’m not so much interested in playing the game of “who started it” as this shit has been brewing for decades (loosely put), enter the whole pendulum of fault parody. I’m more interested in let’s stop pretending that the Palestinians+ Hamas are the innocent and oppressed people being kicked around by the big Zionist bully.

[Herzpunkt]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

Right, because the missile attack was completely at random and not an escalation after a campaign of Israeli bombings.

Israel's been bombing Palestine for decades, but when anyone shoots back all the sudden it's an unprovoked act of terrorism.

Id say shooting at a suburb for the deliberate purpose of killing jewish people is terrorism in my book but hey what do i know

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

Right, because the missile attack was completely at random and not an escalation after a campaign of Israeli bombings.

Israel's been bombing Palestine for decades, but when anyone shoots back all the sudden it's an unprovoked act of terrorism.

Didn't Hamas fire first? Israel only launched retaliation strikes after the Hamas attack. It isn't their fault their attacks are more effective.

Notably Hamas is firing rockets, not missiles. Rockets are unguided and will hit anywhere. Modern missiles such as those fired by Israel are precise and hit what they intend to hit.

[Odreria]

Right, because the missile attack was completely at random and not an escalation after a campaign of Israeli bombings.

Israel's been bombing Palestine for decades, but when anyone shoots back all the sudden it's an unprovoked act of terrorism.

Didn't Hamas fire first? Israel only launched retaliation strikes after the Hamas attack. It isn't their fault their attacks are more effective.

Notably Hamas is firing rockets, not missiles. Rockets are unguided and will hit anywhere. Modern missiles such as those fired by Israel are precise and hit what they intend to hit.

are you a homosexual? Just curious

[New haven america]

‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.

How the fuck is Hamas genociding Israel? 10 Israelis have died, and while that isn't good, thats not shit compared compared Israel flattening city blocks, the AP's headquarters, a couple charities and a hospital.

They're actually both trying to genocide each other.

Israel under Bibi has all but given up on peace as an option and is trying to get as many Palestinians out of the region as possible, whether through forced relocation or ethnic cleansing, while in the 1980's, Hamas has declared in their charter that they will not rest until all Jews are extinct throughout the world and the religion dies.

[Muzehnaya]

How the fuck is Hamas genociding Israel? 10 Israelis have died, and while that isn't good, thats not shit compared compared Israel flattening city blocks, the AP's headquarters, a couple charities and a hospital.

War isn’t a game of legos. Shit gets blown up and casualties are part of it.

Of course I will clarify that “genociding” was partially in sarcasm to a previous persons’ remarks regarding Israel wanting to wipe out the Palestinians as a people. Of course were it not for the Dome defense system Israel would be nothing but rubble by now. So you have to wonder…

There's a very big difference between things just happening to get blown up, and then going out of your way to destroy things. These didn't just happen to explode as a side effect of war, these civilian centers were intentionally targeted.

And you're right, Israel would be rubble if they didn't have their fantastic missile defense system. However, it is precisely because they have such a missile defense system that they don't need to act like maniacs and start launching missiles at everything in Gaza. They have all the time in the world to execute precise, targeted operations to cut the head off of Hamas. It is not out of necessity that they have decided to go down this route. It is their continued commitment to their failed strategy of trying to brutalize the population into submission that has made them take this route.

[Herzpunkt]

War isn’t a game of legos. Shit gets blown up and casualties are part of it.

Of course I will clarify that “genociding” was partially in sarcasm to a previous persons’ remarks regarding Israel wanting to wipe out the Palestinians as a people. Of course were it not for the Dome defense system Israel would be nothing but rubble by now. So you have to wonder…

There's a very big difference between things just happening to get blown up, and then going out of your way to destroy things. These didn't just happen to explode as a side effect of war, these civilian centers were intentionally targeted.

And you're right, Israel would be rubble if they didn't have their fantastic missile defense system. However, it is precisely because they have such a missile defense system that they don't need to act like maniacs and start launching missiles at everything in Gaza. They have all the time in the world to execute precise, targeted operations to cut the head off of Hamas. It is not out of necessity that they have decided to go down this route.

You know how expensive the iron dome system is?

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

War isn’t a game of legos. Shit gets blown up and casualties are part of it.

Of course I will clarify that “genociding” was partially in sarcasm to a previous persons’ remarks regarding Israel wanting to wipe out the Palestinians as a people. Of course were it not for the Dome defense system Israel would be nothing but rubble by now. So you have to wonder…

There's a very big difference between things just happening to get blown up, and then going out of your way to destroy things. These didn't just happen to explode as a side effect of war, these civilian centers were intentionally targeted.

And you're right, Israel would be rubble if they didn't have their fantastic missile defense system. However, it is precisely because they have such a missile defense system that they don't need to act like maniacs and start launching missiles at everything in Gaza. They have all the time in the world to execute precise, targeted operations to cut the head off of Hamas. It is not out of necessity that they have decided to go down this route. It is their continued commitment to their failed strategy of trying to brutalize the population into submission that has made them take this route.

Israel has been executing precise, targeted operations. All of them are targeted. It isn't as if when they hit the AP building, they carpet bombed the area. They have killed several top Hamas commanders, targeted homes of several others, and killed dozens of Hamas fighters in their air strikes. They have destroyed several rocket launchers and hit their stockpiles and tunnels.

However it is notable their Iron Dome system isn't sustainable. Each interceptor is $80,000. Each Hamas rocket is a couple hundred bucks. It is simple economics. Iran has also pointed out a multi-front rocket attack would overwhelm their systems. That wouldn't turn Israel to rubble, but it would be very very bad. Israel is defending itself. It is justified.

are you a homosexual? Just curious

Not sure if this is meant to be some sort of weird insult but no.

[Muzehnaya]

There's a very big difference between things just happening to get blown up, and then going out of your way to destroy things. These didn't just happen to explode as a side effect of war, these civilian centers were intentionally targeted.

And you're right, Israel would be rubble if they didn't have their fantastic missile defense system. However, it is precisely because they have such a missile defense system that they don't need to act like maniacs and start launching missiles at everything in Gaza. They have all the time in the world to execute precise, targeted operations to cut the head off of Hamas. It is not out of necessity that they have decided to go down this route. It is their continued commitment to their failed strategy of trying to brutalize the population into submission that has made them take this route.

Israel has been executing precise, targeted operations. All of them are targeted. It isn't as if when they hit the AP building, they carpet bombed the area. They have killed several top Hamas commanders, targeted homes of several others, and killed dozens of Hamas fighters in their air strikes. They have destroyed several rocket launchers and hit their stockpiles and tunnels.

However it is notable their Iron Dome system isn't sustainable. Each interceptor is $80,000. Each Hamas rocket is a couple hundred bucks. It is simple economics. Iran has also pointed out a multi-front rocket attack would overwhelm their systems. That wouldn't turn Israel to rubble, but it would be very very bad. Israel is defending itself. It is justified.

are you a homosexual? Just curious

Not sure if this is meant to be some sort of weird insult but no.

And so if these missiles are so precise, that then leads to the question, why are they targeting what they are targeting? They may have precisely killed dozens of Hamas fighters, but they have also precisely killed 188 civilians. They have precisely blown up a media tower under absurd pretenses, precisely blown up a hospital, precisely blown up a children's relief fund, and have precisely blown up an ice cream factory. If they are so precise, and not just shooting off their missiles in random directions, one is left seriously questioning these target selections.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Israel has been executing precise, targeted operations. All of them are targeted. It isn't as if when they hit the AP building, they carpet bombed the area. They have killed several top Hamas commanders, targeted homes of several others, and killed dozens of Hamas fighters in their air strikes. They have destroyed several rocket launchers and hit their stockpiles and tunnels.

However it is notable their Iron Dome system isn't sustainable. Each interceptor is $80,000. Each Hamas rocket is a couple hundred bucks. It is simple economics. Iran has also pointed out a multi-front rocket attack would overwhelm their systems. That wouldn't turn Israel to rubble, but it would be very very bad. Israel is defending itself. It is justified.



Not sure if this is meant to be some sort of weird insult but no.

And so if these missiles are so precise, that then leads to the question, why are they targeting what they are targeting? They may have precisely killed dozens of Hamas fighters, but they have also precisely killed 188 civilians. They have precisely blown up a media tower under absurd pretenses, precisely blown up a hospital, precisely blown up a children's relief fund, and have precisely blown up an ice cream factory. If they are so precise, and not just shooting off their missiles in random directions, one is left seriously questioning these target selections.

Their targeting selections are based on their intelligence. It is highly likely Hamas hid their weapons or people there. Notably 188 isn't that high of a number. Unfortunate, but not that high.

It is interesting you choose to go off numbers given out by the Hamas health ministry. It is likely Hamas dead are also in this figure, so actual civilian dead are lesser. At the end of the day, it is just unfortunate and unintended killing as a result of the conflict Hamas started. You have no one to blame but Hamas.

[Odreria]

And so if these missiles are so precise, that then leads to the question, why are they targeting what they are targeting? They may have precisely killed dozens of Hamas fighters, but they have also precisely killed 188 civilians. They have precisely blown up a media tower under absurd pretenses, precisely blown up a hospital, precisely blown up a children's relief fund, and have precisely blown up an ice cream factory. If they are so precise, and not just shooting off their missiles in random directions, one is left seriously questioning these target selections.

Their targeting selections are based on their intelligence. It is highly likely Hamas hid their weapons or people there. Notably 188 isn't that high of a number. Unfortunate, but not that high.

It is interesting you choose to go off numbers given out by the Hamas health ministry. It is likely Hamas dead are also in this figure, so actual civilian dead are lesser. At the end of the day, it is just unfortunate and unintended killing as a result of the conflict Hamas started. You have no one to blame but Hamas.

Hamas is the government of gaza.”hamas dead are also in this figure” is like saying “oh that figure includes republicans”

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Their targeting selections are based on their intelligence. It is highly likely Hamas hid their weapons or people there. Notably 188 isn't that high of a number. Unfortunate, but not that high.

It is interesting you choose to go off numbers given out by the Hamas health ministry. It is likely Hamas dead are also in this figure, so actual civilian dead are lesser. At the end of the day, it is just unfortunate and unintended killing as a result of the conflict Hamas started. You have no one to blame but Hamas.

Hamas is the government of gaza.”hamas dead are also in this figure” is like saying “oh that figure includes republicans”

You are not understanding. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Its members are terrorists and legitimate military targets. I am saying there are Hamas terrorists included in the civilian casualty count.

To put it in an easier to understand situation for you, it is like how Syria after a recent strike said one "civilian" was killed. This person was not a member of any military, but he was a militia fighter. As such, while the government may consider the person to be a "civilian" they are actually not and legitimate military targets.

[Odreria]

Hamas is the government of gaza.”hamas dead are also in this figure” is like saying “oh that figure includes republicans”

You are not understanding. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Its members are terrorists and legitimate military targets.

no

[Muzehnaya]

And so if these missiles are so precise, that then leads to the question, why are they targeting what they are targeting? They may have precisely killed dozens of Hamas fighters, but they have also precisely killed 188 civilians. They have precisely blown up a media tower under absurd pretenses, precisely blown up a hospital, precisely blown up a children's relief fund, and have precisely blown up an ice cream factory. If they are so precise, and not just shooting off their missiles in random directions, one is left seriously questioning these target selections.

Their targeting selections are based on their intelligence. It is highly likely Hamas hid their weapons or people there. Notably 188 isn't that high of a number. Unfortunate, but not that high.

It is interesting you choose to go off numbers given out by the Hamas health ministry. It is likely Hamas dead are also in this figure, so actual civilian dead are lesser.

Even if, for the sake of the argument, there were weapons in the hospital, it still does not justify missile striking the hospital and killing patients and doctors inside. And furthermore, I find it unlikely that an entire hospital would happily just let Hamas hide their weapons there without issue. Of course, this is all totally useless speculation, because even the IDF hasn't spoken up about what prompted the strike.

EDIT: Also I went by The Independent report on the hospital strike for latest civilian casualties.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Their targeting selections are based on their intelligence. It is highly likely Hamas hid their weapons or people there. Notably 188 isn't that high of a number. Unfortunate, but not that high.

It is interesting you choose to go off numbers given out by the Hamas health ministry. It is likely Hamas dead are also in this figure, so actual civilian dead are lesser.

Even if, for the sake of the argument, there were weapons in the hospital, it still does not justify missile striking the hospital and killing patients and doctors inside. And furthermore, I find it unlikely that an entire hospital would happily just let Hamas hide their weapons there without issue. Of course, this is all totally useless speculation, because even the IDF hasn't spoken up about what prompted the strike.

EDIT: Also I went by The Independent report on the hospital strike for latest civilian casualties.

This is a quote from an article regarding the past experiences of an AP reporter in Gaza during the past conflicts.

"Cameramen waiting outside Shifa Hospital in Gaza City would film the arrival of civilian casualties and then, at a signal from an official, turn off their cameras when wounded and dead fighters came in, helping Hamas maintain the illusion that only civilians were dying. (This too happened; the information comes from multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of these incidents.)"

Funny the same hospital stuck was the same one sources say in the past conflicts have treated Hamas fighters. Note that this is a Hamas operated hospital as well. Everyone working there knew the risks.

You went off of The Independent which got its numbers from the Gaza health ministry.

"Israeli strikes on Gaza have damaged health facilities, killed two prominent Palestinian doctors, and destroyed roads around the strip’s largest hospital, Gaza health officials and international rights groups have claimed."

"The latest bombardment was so intense, it has impacted the ability of medics to treat the wounded, health officials added."

[Fahran]

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1393706938995675136?s=21

Antifa and pro-palestinians

Well, that was exceedingly stupid.

[Saiwania]

If Gaza Strip is supposedly an open air "prison" that's been blockaded indefinitely..

How do foreign press/media even get access to go into the locale in question?
Do any people ever manage to smuggle themselves out and go overseas to get asylum elsewhere?
Does Gaza get resupplied at all or it is somehow an autarky that can produce everything it needs locally?
What trade goes in or out of the place if any of it exists?
How does any reconstruction get done in terms of procuring materials for building?
Would it perhaps be better for residents there to build underground to the most extent possible, and live below instead of at ground level or above if air superiority will never be theirs?

What is the West Bank's status with regards to the same above questions I pose?

I can get why Israel blocks off their side of the border, but why does Egypt? -what is their motivation to keep Palestine locals from leaving Gaza via that route?

[Vassenor]

So we're still expected to swallow the "Hamas exists so Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants" tripe?

[Herzpunkt]

So we're still expected to swallow the "Hamas exists so Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants" tripe?

Yup kneel before israel and its imperator julius bidenus

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Even if, for the sake of the argument, there were weapons in the hospital, it still does not justify missile striking the hospital and killing patients and doctors inside. And furthermore, I find it unlikely that an entire hospital would happily just let Hamas hide their weapons there without issue. Of course, this is all totally useless speculation, because even the IDF hasn't spoken up about what prompted the strike.

EDIT: Also I went by The Independent report on the hospital strike for latest civilian casualties.

This is a quote from an article regarding the past experiences of an AP reporter in Gaza during the past conflicts.

"Cameramen waiting outside Shifa Hospital in Gaza City would film the arrival of civilian casualties and then, at a signal from an official, turn off their cameras when wounded and dead fighters came in, helping Hamas maintain the illusion that only civilians were dying. (This too happened; the information comes from multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of these incidents.)"

Funny the same hospital stuck was the same one sources say in the past conflicts have treated Hamas fighters. Note that this is a Hamas operated hospital as well. Everyone working there knew the risks.

You went off of The Independent which got its numbers from the Gaza health ministry.

"Israeli strikes on Gaza have damaged health facilities, killed two prominent Palestinian doctors, and destroyed roads around the strip’s largest hospital, Gaza health officials and international rights groups have claimed."

"The latest bombardment was so intense, it has impacted the ability of medics to treat the wounded, health officials added."

That a hospital provides treatment to wounded combatants does not make it a morally acceptable target.

[Vassenor]

This is a quote from an article regarding the past experiences of an AP reporter in Gaza during the past conflicts.

"Cameramen waiting outside Shifa Hospital in Gaza City would film the arrival of civilian casualties and then, at a signal from an official, turn off their cameras when wounded and dead fighters came in, helping Hamas maintain the illusion that only civilians were dying. (This too happened; the information comes from multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of these incidents.)"

Funny the same hospital stuck was the same one sources say in the past conflicts have treated Hamas fighters. Note that this is a Hamas operated hospital as well. Everyone working there knew the risks.

You went off of The Independent which got its numbers from the Gaza health ministry.

"Israeli strikes on Gaza have damaged health facilities, killed two prominent Palestinian doctors, and destroyed roads around the strip’s largest hospital, Gaza health officials and international rights groups have claimed."

"The latest bombardment was so intense, it has impacted the ability of medics to treat the wounded, health officials added."

That a hospital provides treatment to wounded combatants does not make it a morally acceptable target.

You're forgetting that Hamas just existing justifies anything Israel does.