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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 5:46 pm

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I wouldnt doubt for a second the AP has pro hamas journalists colluding with hamas

These groups are not allowed to do whatever they want in palestine without Hamas having the final say on what they can/cannot do.

So yes, its totally likley some work with hamas

This is the dumbest thing I've read today.


Well your a muslim, of course thats your take
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 5:48 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:This is the dumbest thing I've read today.


Well your a muslim, of course thats your take

Okay, congrats? Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 5:50 pm

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Well your a muslim, of course thats your take

Okay, congrats? Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright.


It has everything to do with it, same with people crying about “muh holiest month” as if thats for brownie points
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 5:54 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:Okay, congrats? Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright.


It has everything to do with it, same with people crying about “muh holiest month” as if thats for brownie points

So in other words, you cannot explain the connection at all, and have to try and stop yourself from looking like a clown by vaguely saying "It has everything to do with it" without elaborating.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 5:55 pm

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It has everything to do with it, same with people crying about “muh holiest month” as if thats for brownie points

So in other words, you cannot explain the connection at all, and have to try and stop yourself from looking like a clown by vaguely saying "It has everything to do with it" without elaborating.


The only clowns here are the ones calling rocket attacks on civilians “ palestinians defending themselves against aggression”
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 5:57 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:So in other words, you cannot explain the connection at all, and have to try and stop yourself from looking like a clown by vaguely saying "It has everything to do with it" without elaborating.


The only clowns here are the ones calling rocket attacks on civilians “ palestinians defending themselves against aggression”

Link to any post where I have said such a thing.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:05 pm

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The only clowns here are the ones calling rocket attacks on civilians “ palestinians defending themselves against aggression”

Link to any post where I have said such a thing.


Link to where i said you specifically

Unless your saying you consider yourself one of the “clowns”?
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 6:07 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:Link to any post where I have said such a thing.


Link to where i said you specifically

Unless your saying you consider yourself one of the “clowns”?

Oh, so you weren't continuing the conversation, and instead are trying to run and gesture to random things that are unrelated to the post you quoted? Well, I wasn't expecting that, but go ahead.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:10 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
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Link to where i said you specifically

Unless your saying you consider yourself one of the “clowns”?

Oh, so you weren't continuing the conversation, and instead are trying to run and gesture to random things that are unrelated to the post you quoted? Well, I wasn't expecting that, but go ahead.


Here is a simple question

Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves and if so does that include targeting civilians?
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 6:13 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Oh, so you weren't continuing the conversation, and instead are trying to run and gesture to random things that are unrelated to the post you quoted? Well, I wasn't expecting that, but go ahead.


Here is a simple question

Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves and if so does that include targeting civilians?

By this point, I'm just going to assume you have totally run away from the premise on which you started the conversation on.

And for that matter, yes, I believe they have a right to defend themselves. And no, I don't believe that they have a right to target civilians.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:15 pm

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Here is a simple question

Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves and if so does that include targeting civilians?

By this point, I'm just going to assume you have totally run away from the premise on which you started the conversation on.

And for that matter, yes, I believe they have a right to defend themselves. And no, I don't believe that they have a right to target civilians.


Fatastic

So you would say the palestine is not defending itself when its launching rocket right?
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Postby Muzehnaya » Mon May 17, 2021 6:16 pm

Herzpunkt wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:By this point, I'm just going to assume you have totally run away from the premise on which you started the conversation on.

And for that matter, yes, I believe they have a right to defend themselves. And no, I don't believe that they have a right to target civilians.


Fatastic

So you would say the palestine is not defending itself when its launching rocket right?

That's counter aggression targeted towards the wrong people. Should be hitting IDF instead of civilians.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:20 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:
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Fatastic

So you would say the palestine is not defending itself when its launching rocket right?

That's counter aggression targeted towards the wrong people. Should be hitting IDF instead of civilians.


It is counter aggression, and also not defense

And yes they should be targeting IDF and vice versa

The response to being flash banged and tear gas should not be dumping rockets on a suburb.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon May 17, 2021 6:35 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:This is the dumbest thing I've read today.


Well your a muslim, of course thats your take

I'm not a muslim but I'm gonna have to agree with Muzehnaya here. The AP is very credible and highly regarded.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:36 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
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Well your a muslim, of course thats your take

I'm not a muslim but I'm gonna have to agree with Muzehnaya here. The AP is very credible and highly regarded.


Oh well then its all good huh?
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon May 17, 2021 6:42 pm

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Muzehnaya wrote:That's counter aggression targeted towards the wrong people. Should be hitting IDF instead of civilians.


It is counter aggression, and also not defense

And yes they should be targeting IDF and vice versa

The response to being flash banged and tear gas should not be dumping rockets on a suburb.

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There's also a very big difference between bombs and bullets and tear gas and flash bangs.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon May 17, 2021 6:44 pm

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Alcala-Cordel wrote:I'm not a muslim but I'm gonna have to agree with Muzehnaya here. The AP is very credible and highly regarded.


Oh well then its all good huh?

...so it's extremely unlikely that they would b infiltrated by Hamas. How about you wait for Israel to release the intelligence behind it that they refuse to release before making farfetched assumptions like that?
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:47 pm

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Oh well then its all good huh?

...so it's extremely unlikely that they would b infiltrated by Hamas. How about you wait for Israel to release the intelligence behind it that they refuse to release before making farfetched assumptions like that?


Wow thats an idea

Why dont we wait for the reports, excellent, yes let us do that Alcala-Cordel.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon May 17, 2021 6:49 pm

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Alcala-Cordel wrote:I'm not a muslim but I'm gonna have to agree with Muzehnaya here. The AP is very credible and highly regarded.


Oh well then its all good huh?

Given that the AP is widely regarded as extremely credible, that the Israelis claimed to have shared intelligence about Hamas’ presence in the building with the US, and that the Secretary of State claims to have seen no such intelligence, you’d think you’d be able to admit that maybe something’s up here with the story Israel’s telling instead of doubling down on wild conspiracy theories.
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 6:54 pm

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Oh well then its all good huh?

Given that the AP is widely regarded as extremely credible, that the Israelis claimed to have shared intelligence about Hamas’ presence in the building with the US, and that the Secretary of State claims to have seen no such intelligence, you’d think you’d be able to admit that maybe something’s up here with the story Israel’s telling instead of doubling down on wild conspiracy theories.


Suspicous sure

But not “ this is total zionist propagands to annihlate all palestinian muslims”
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Postby Senkaku » Mon May 17, 2021 8:02 pm

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Senkaku wrote:Given that the AP is widely regarded as extremely credible, that the Israelis claimed to have shared intelligence about Hamas’ presence in the building with the US, and that the Secretary of State claims to have seen no such intelligence, you’d think you’d be able to admit that maybe something’s up here with the story Israel’s telling instead of doubling down on wild conspiracy theories.


Suspicous sure

But not “ this is total zionist propagands to annihlate all palestinian muslims”

No, it’s Zionist propaganda to justify the suppression of foreign media outlets that are giving too much exposure to the suffering of the Palestinian people for the Israeli right’s liking. If you want to keep inventing reasons to tell yourself why bombing journalists is actually good, that’s your prerogative, but it just makes you look silly as the evidence that you’re being duped continues to mount (very publicly).
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Postby Herzpunkt » Mon May 17, 2021 8:14 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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Suspicous sure

But not “ this is total zionist propagands to annihlate all palestinian muslims”

No, it’s Zionist propaganda to justify the suppression of foreign media outlets that are giving too much exposure to the suffering of the Palestinian people for the Israeli right’s liking. If you want to keep inventing reasons to tell yourself why bombing journalists is actually good, that’s your prerogative, but it just makes you look silly as the evidence that you’re being duped continues to mount (very publicly).


Oh there it is

“Making excuses for bombing journalists”

You literally can’t help yourself can you :roll:

Yeah thats what i want dead journalists you caught me and my dastardly plan of zionism.
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Postby The Alamann » Mon May 17, 2021 8:22 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
There's also a very big difference between bombs and bullets and tear gas and flash bangs.


‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon May 17, 2021 8:55 pm

The Alamann wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:
There's also a very big difference between bombs and bullets and tear gas and flash bangs.


‘Couldn’t agree with you more. Too bad the Palestinians don’t. A thousand missiles in a blitz attack attempting to overwhelm the Israeli Dome defense aimed at heavily populated areas. Yes, someone’s’ genociding here but I’m not sure it’s Israel.


How the fuck is Hamas genociding Israel? 10 Israelis have died, and while that isn't good, thats not shit compared compared Israel flattening city blocks, the AP's headquarters, a couple charities and a hospital.
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Postby Odreria » Mon May 17, 2021 8:58 pm

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Senkaku wrote:No, it’s Zionist propaganda to justify the suppression of foreign media outlets that are giving too much exposure to the suffering of the Palestinian people for the Israeli right’s liking. If you want to keep inventing reasons to tell yourself why bombing journalists is actually good, that’s your prerogative, but it just makes you look silly as the evidence that you’re being duped continues to mount (very publicly).


Oh there it is

“Making excuses for bombing journalists”

You literally can’t help yourself can you :roll:

Yeah thats what i want dead journalists you caught me and my dastardly plan of zionism.

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