67 Palestinian and 7 Israeli Civilians Killed in Conflict

[G-Tech Corporation]

I mean, I don’t like civilian casualties either. But I don’t think anyone does. But they do kinda tend to happen when modern warfare occurs. And the Israelis seem to be trying pretty hard to avoid them.

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

[SD_Film Artists]

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I mean, I don’t like civilian casualties either. But I don’t think anyone does. But they do kinda tend to happen when modern warfare occurs. And the Israelis seem to be trying pretty hard to avoid them.

No I'm sorry, the rules of warTwitter say that if there are any civilian casualities then you have to support the opposing side even if that opposing side would gladly kill civilians too if they've given half the chance.

[Vassenor]

Question: Who? Cause I don't think any of us like hamas.

I didnt say “like” im saying that people have used “proportionality” as a defence against israel

So who has justified civilian casualties when Hamas inflicts them?

[Ifreann]

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

I think that if they were trying very hard to avoid civilian casualties then they wouldn't be invading Gaza at all.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

I dont think people who bomb a hospital and news headquarters and who ordered their men to fire on civilians in 2014 deserve trust or respect or anything good for the matter. They deserve to be called out.

[Senkaku]

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

I'm guessing it's the information coming out of Gaza about massive attacks on civilian targets accompanied by the thinnest of pretexts from the IDF that said civilian targets somehow had Hamas assets or offices hidden inside (information which they are mysteriously unable to provide their American allies apparently)

[G-Tech Corporation]

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

I think that if they were trying very hard to avoid civilian casualties then they wouldn't be invading Gaza at all.

Hm yes. Sure, I’d agree with that. But given military operations were ongoing, what makes you think that the Israelis aren’t attempting to avoid civilian casualties in that context?

[Senkaku]

I think that if they were trying very hard to avoid civilian casualties then they wouldn't be invading Gaza at all.

Hm yes. Sure, I’d agree with that. But given military operations were ongoing, what makes you think that the Israelis aren’t attempting to avoid civilian casualties in that context?

They're bombing tower blocks and random city streets? It doesn't really scream "minimizing casualties."

[Vassenor]

I think that if they were trying very hard to avoid civilian casualties then they wouldn't be invading Gaza at all.

Hm yes. Sure, I’d agree with that. But given military operations were ongoing, what makes you think that the Israelis aren’t attempting to avoid civilian casualties in that context?

Who bombs a refugee camp if they're trying to avoid civilian casualties?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hm yes. Sure, I’d agree with that. But given military operations were ongoing, what makes you think that the Israelis aren’t attempting to avoid civilian casualties in that context?

They're bombing tower blocks and random city streets? It doesn't really scream "minimizing casualties."

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

[Vassenor]

They're bombing tower blocks and random city streets? It doesn't really scream "minimizing casualties."

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

How many soldiers do you think there are in a refugee camp?

[Kowani]

Gaza’s only coronavirus testing lab is no longer functional after it was damaged while the Shawwa commercial building opposite it was levelled earlier today by an Israeli airstrike

the casualties of that airstrike were one man and his 11-year old niece

[Herzpunkt]

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

How many soldiers do you think there are in a refugee camp?

Idk Vassenor, why don’t you let us know

[Senkaku]

They're bombing tower blocks and random city streets? It doesn't really scream "minimizing casualties."

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

Dozens to hundreds, depending on their size? Have you never seen a street or a tower block before? More of a hearty yeoman farmer type who doesn't venture into dens of urban iniquity like Gaza?

[Insaanistan]

They're bombing tower blocks and random city streets? It doesn't really scream "minimizing casualties."

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

Do you know how densely populated Gaza is?

[Herzpunkt]

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

Do you know how densely populated Gaza is?

Yeah, really dense, thats why so many people get hit

[G-Tech Corporation]

I’m curious - how many civilians do you think live in a tower block? Walk along a random street?

Dozens to hundreds, depending on their size? Have you never seen a street or a tower block before? More of a hearty yeoman farmer type who doesn't venture into dens of urban iniquity like Gaza?

Pfft. Leaving aside the ad hominem, sure, dozens, hundreds.

And how many bombs has Israel dropped in Gaza?

[Insaanistan]

Dozens to hundreds, depending on their size? Have you never seen a street or a tower block before? More of a hearty yeoman farmer type who doesn't venture into dens of urban iniquity like Gaza?

Pfft. Leaving aside the ad hominem, sure, dozens, hundreds.

And how many bombs has Israel dropped in Gaza?

Enough to have killed 42 people just today already.

[Immortan Khan]

Honestly at this rate I hope the Iranians get the bomb.

Iran has done quite a lot to destabilize the region as well, and their leadership has probably contributed to more indirect deaths than Israel has in recent years. I think giving them support is a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Because at this rate it's going to take a nuclear armed state siding with the Palestinians to get the Israelis to be open to peace and cease the ethnic cleansing.

[Immortan Khan]

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

I dont think people who bomb a hospital and news headquarters and who ordered their men to fire on civilians in 2014 deserve trust or respect or anything good for the matter. They deserve to be called out.

More than one hospital along with numerous health clinics, some of which belonged to MSF and are known to the IDF, and also bombing the roads leading to them.

[Senkaku]

Dozens to hundreds, depending on their size? Have you never seen a street or a tower block before? More of a hearty yeoman farmer type who doesn't venture into dens of urban iniquity like Gaza?

Pfft. Leaving aside the ad hominem, sure, dozens, hundreds.

Then why did you ask?

And how many bombs has Israel dropped in Gaza?

In the past few days I'd guess hundreds (unless you want to redefine artillery strikes as somehow not counting or something, in which case maybe airstrikes are still only in the dozens); since 1948 I'd guess it's in the tens of thousands. Why don't you just get to wherever you're going with this tiresome line of questioning, instead of dragging it out further?

[Senkaku]

Iran has done quite a lot to destabilize the region as well, and their leadership has probably contributed to more indirect deaths than Israel has in recent years. I think giving them support is a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Because at this rate it's going to take a nuclear armed state siding with the Palestinians to get the Israelis to be open to peace and cease the ethnic cleansing.

Introducing more nuclear weapons to a conflict setting is just a wish for nuclear war, not a proposal for peace. The nuclear-armed state that needs to side with the Palestinians to get the Israelis to be open to peace and a halt to the ethnic cleansing of Palestine is the US; if Iran gets the bomb but the US remains intransigent the only result will be Tehran, Gaza, and Tel Aviv all going up in smoke.

[Muzehnaya]

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

That they just recently blew up a hospital and leveled a tower containing media offices on absolutely nonsensical pretenses.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I don't really think that they are trying very hard to avoid them.

Is there a reason you think that in particular? Mistrust of the motives of the IDF?

61 dead children.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Pfft. Leaving aside the ad hominem, sure, dozens, hundreds.

Then why did you ask?

And how many bombs has Israel dropped in Gaza?

In the past few days I'd guess hundreds (unless you want to redefine artillery strikes as somehow not counting or something, in which case maybe airstrikes are still only in the dozens); since 1948 I'd guess it's in the tens of thousands. Why don't you just get to wherever you're going with this tiresome line of questioning, instead of dragging it out further?

Oh I’m just trying to work from your assumptions, instead of inserting my own.

So, hundreds of airstrikes into areas where hundreds or at least dozens of people are located. Even assuming, say, 300 airstrikes, and a solitary dozen people available to be killed in each location, we should really be expecting ~4000 deaths, shouldn’t we? Not the 200 currently in place?